Taksal faction under Baba Harnam Singh has NOT changed Gurbani

[chatanga]

This looks to be the opening of the Kartarpuri Bir which our Taksali Veers accept as scribed by Bhai Gurdas and supervised by Guru Arjun Dev Ji. Some even say this Mool Mantar is written by Guru Sahib himself.

If this is the case, the alterations to Gutkeh or Saroops whether done at the time of Baba Harnam Singh or Sant Jarnail Singh cannot be accepted as correct.

With the Kartarpuri Bir, if i remember correctly, 10th Guru made some changes, so although we can lookto it for a excellent guide, can we say that it is 100% correct version of what Aad Guru is today? The Damdami Bir is the guide but failing that why not reference the Kartarpuri Bir.

[samosa]

It is correct that there are differences between this Kartarpuri Bir and the present SGGSJi.

It is however quite a stretch to say Guru Gobind Singh Ji altered the Mool Mantar, which is not something that is ever been claimed before, and was not agreed with by Sant Gurbachan Singh, who as Prabjot Singh has shown, has written Japji Sahib the correct way.

[1GSeva]

Clarfication:

It is not printing of Saroops, but of Senchi Sahibs (volumes of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj).

The article from Sikh24 is incorrect.

[chatanga]

It is however quite a stretch to say Guru Gobind Singh Ji altered the Mool Mantar,

yes i dont think there was any alteration, but hopefully someone will furnish us with an answer.

Maybe Khalistan Zindabad could find out.

[S1ngh]

This is why all should strongly protect the idea that SGPC should be the only one to take care of printing mahraj saroops. No jathanbandi or management or society should be allowed to print gurbani saroops whether its taksal or Satnam trust from Canada.

[Singh559]

This is why all should strongly protect the idea that SGPC should be the only one to take care of printing mahraj saroops. No jathanbandi or management or society should be allowed to print gurbani saroops whether its taksal or Satnam trust from Canada.

Agreed although I don't particularly 100% support SGPC in other decisions.

[singhgsingh]

This is why all should strongly protect the idea that SGPC should be the only one to take care of printing mahraj saroops. No jathanbandi or management or society should be allowed to print gurbani saroops whether its taksal or Satnam trust from Canada.

I didn't know Satnam Trust printed Saroops? This is the first time I've heard of this.

[S1ngh]

They do not but they order thru sources who do the publishing illegally (Sarna Delhi group).

http://www.panthic.org/articles/3671

[S1ngh]

Agreed although I don't particularly 100% support SGPC in other decisions.

Agreed that most of their decisions are flawed and political biased. In some cases they do okayish job such as taking care of running of gurughars. Let say I am a farmer and tomorrow I die, I be more happy to leave land to sgpc rather than to other Sikh institution. Why? Because I know sgpc will stay and their leaders will change often which sadly is not the case of many jatehbandeya.

[khalistan_zindabaad]

The moolmantar written by sant gurbachan Singh and baba Thakur Singh has the same version as what dhumma has done, the article is incorrect.

There are various versions as per pointed out by singhfauja