amritdhari and removing his gathra/kirpan are we allowed ?

[Guest wondering]

What does gurbani say about this ??

[Gurpreet14]

No matter what u need to carry on with ur Kirpan...

I had a friend who is in Army and he is amritdhari.... as u all know army training is the toughest one....

There was a task to lie and roll on the road..... as wearing a kirpan if u roll then u know how badly it can hurt....

The Army officer told him to remove ... he said i will not... after a long long discussion about the same... that person tied that kirpan on head n performed the task....

Its all about adjusting..... U need to respect ur weapon .....

The most amazing thing was when he said to the officer - ITS MY BODY AND ITS MY WEAPON - LET IT HURT ME - I CAN BEAR THE PHYSICAL PAIN BUT BY REMOVING IT I CANT BEAR MENTAL PAIN FOR NOT FOLLOWING MY GURU's WORDS

[Guest info]

I think that it is okay like the people in the sangat fourm said he could have done a jap ji sahib paath to take it ofd he wore the kirpan first round if he knew it was going to bother him he would have taken it off before it started. He took it off the second round he would have knowm about doing a paath in exchange of it otherwise he woukd have taken it off first round.

[Guest waheguru]

He could have removed his dastaar but he didnt. Removing his kirpan probably was a thoughout decsion.

[GuptKaurUK]

If in doubt refer to the rehat maryada or what you were advised by the panj pyare during your amrit sanchar.

The following quotation has been taken from the Rehat maryada which I understand has been approved by Akal Takht:

"Have, on your person, all the time, the five K’s:

The Keshas (unshorn hair), the Kirpan (sheathed sword) [The length of the sword to be worn is not prescribed.], the Kachhehra [The Kachhehra (drawers like garment) may be made from any cloth, but its legs should not reach down to below the shins.], the Kanga (comb), the Karha (steel bracelet) [The karha should be of pure steel.]"

Here the length of the sword is not prescribed, however a symbol of a kirpan, can not function as a kirpan... that is what makes a clear distinction between the two in my view.

[savinderpalsingh]

you can have your kirpan small one tied in your keski

but do not make it habbit

[Gurpreet14]

If in doubt refer to the rehat maryada or what you were advised by the panj pyare during your amrit sanchar.

The following quotation has been taken from the Rehat maryada which I understand has been approved by Akal Takht:

"Have, on your person, all the time, the five K’s:

The Keshas (unshorn hair), the Kirpan (sheathed sword) [The length of the sword to be worn is not prescribed.], the Kachhehra [The Kachhehra (drawers like garment) may be made from any cloth, but its legs should not reach down to below the shins.], the Kanga (comb), the Karha (steel bracelet) [The karha should be of pure steel.]"

Here the length of the sword is not prescribed, however a symbol of a kirpan, can not function as a kirpan... that is what makes a clear distinction between the two in my view.

Leh steel da pana kara ki iron da?

[GuptKaurUK]

Leh steel da pana kara ki iron da?

JFI: I am not saying I agree/disagree with this.

To clarify: As far as the quote I made was concerned, in all honestly I was reluntant to quote from that source. If you read the first thing I wrote, I advise to refer to the rehat marayda (so it is up to each individual to make of that what they will) OR refer to what panj pyare advise.

You're doomed if you do, and you're doomed if you don't! I just didn't want people being left with the thought that if they do paat first, they can remove their kirpan.

[Gurpreet14]

JFI: I am not saying I agree/disagree with this.

To clarify: As far as the quote I made was concerned, in all honestly I was reluntant to quote from that source. If you read the first thing I wrote, I advise to refer to the rehat marayda (so it is up to each individual to make of that what they will) OR refer to what panj pyare advise.

You're doomed if you do, and you're doomed if you don't! I just didn't want people being left with the thought that if they do paat first, they can remove their kirpan.

Arey mere Pyaari Sis

O te mai u pta tuc jo likhya e......

Mai puchri c kera pana kara.... mai te janam to hun tak steel da paya c kara and now i am wearing iron wala.... o puchya sis kera pana?

[GuptKaurUK]

Arey mere Pyaari Sis

O te mai u pta tuc jo likhya e......

Mai puchri c kera pana kara.... mai te janam to hun tak steel da paya c kara and now i am wearing iron wala.... o puchya sis kera pana?

Wear whatever you wore to your amrit sanchar penji.