is nanaksar a cult sect, what is it ?

[JSinghnz]

Took my young sons to a Nanaksar thaath the other day.

They were shocked to see a big imaginary picture of Guru Nanak in the Darbar Hall and

people bowing to it.

They felt very uncomfortable with this and also the kaachi baani being sung there.

They told me they do not want to go anywhere near that place again which is not even a Gurdwara.

[GuptUnknown]

Took my young sons to a Nanaksar thaath the other day.

They were shocked to see a big imaginary picture of Guru Nanak in the Darbar Hall and

people bowing to it.

They felt very uncomfortable with this and also the kaachi baani being sung there.

They told me they do not want to go anywhere near that place again which is not even a Gurdwara.

arent you like 16 years old lol. Waheguru.

[simran345]

I never bow to the pics, whenever i go. But to Maharaj ji instead, I think its coz of Nanaksar i got interested in Sikhi, whereas befor i went to gurdwara i used to just sit and not understand much of paat. Understand what Ragmaala is saying, i am not spokesperson either, would love to go to Kaleran one. Its the stories of Babaji being what they were that gave me hope to carry on with life.

And how all their attention used to be on Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. It maybe different, but its peaceful too. Raagis also sing in Raags, that's great to listen to. Some of the best raagis i seen there, love it.

Ps: also love how Maharaj ji are placed on higher position, this impressed me most, as more respect towards them automatically came within me.

[Mehtab Singh]

Took my young sons to a Nanaksar thaath the other day.

They were shocked to see a big imaginary picture of Guru Nanak in the Darbar Hall and

people bowing to it.

They felt very uncomfortable with this and also the kaachi baani being sung there.

They told me they do not want to go anywhere near that place again which is not even a Gurdwara.

Then don't go, no one is putting a gun to your neck and forcing you are they? Why the need to announce here?

[tuhintuhin]

Respect to Baba Nand ji.

If Nanaksaris are all about Guru Nanak, then why don't they have langar?

The practice of langar was started by Guru Nanak dev ji.

Waheguru ji....when Dhan Dhan Baba Nand Singh ji were doing bhagti....Guru Nanak Dev ji did bachan to him that you don't have to go anywhere to ask for food....your food willl come to you......and that bachan is been kept till now.....

also paiseaan da matha nahi tekde othe........that's why sangat brings in parshada.....ona di sewa lagdi hai........

They do have langer on pooranmashi.......also sangat do bring other stuff the rest of the days.......and people are hungry can have something from the gurdwara kitchen.....it's not that someone comes and they don't have food to provide them....a singh will ......

Baba Nand singh ji ne Guru Nanak Dev ji de pushan te eh bachan mangeya c..ke ik vi cheez te ona da naam na howe........koi vi jaga ona de naam te na bane......Guru sahib de bachan han ke oh apne pyareaan di parsansha aap kraunda hai....

That's why Nanaksar is called "bhagti da ghar"....coz it is all about nirol bhagti........

some people say....they only praise Guru Nanak Dev ji...no other Guru................but at the time of saying this they forget that all Gurus are one Jot......no difference .............

other thing to highlight...they always recite more bani/ardas/keertan as compared to any other gurdwara ( no offence to others please)......which is what we are here to do......

[tuhintuhin]

Took my young sons to a Nanaksar thaath the other day.

They were shocked to see a big imaginary picture of Guru Nanak in the Darbar Hall and

people bowing to it.

They felt very uncomfortable with this and also the kaachi baani being sung there.

They told me they do not want to go anywhere near that place again which is not even a Gurdwara.

speechless....

you saw everything......Guru Maharaj Da pawan paviter saroop biraajmaan hoeya ni dikheya????

waheguru ji.......kise te ungal chakan ton pehlaa poori tara usde baare poori jaankari le laini chahidi hai.........Dhan Dhan Baba Nanad Singh ji de aun ton pehla...Guru Sahib de paviter saroop nu almaariyaan vich band kar ke rakheya janda c....Dhan Dhan Baba Nand singh ji nu ise karaj layi dharti te bhejeya geya c ke oh Guru Sahib di sahi maryada kaayam karan.......Jini sewa Guru sahib de saroop di nanaksar vich hundi hai....kite hor ni hundi..........

Guru Nanak Dev ji da saroop othe ta lageya kyonki Guru Granth sahib ji vichon Dhan Dhan baba Nand Singh ji ne Guru sahib nu apne prem te shardha naal pragat kita c.......te Guru sahib de aageya leke painter ton Guru dahib da saroop banwaya c.......sangata da bhala karan layi......(as it is easier to concentrate on sargun saroop rather than nirgun saroop...due to human nature) ...that's not an "imaginary photo"....Guru ji da sargun saroop hai......"Gur parmesar eko jaan"

we all still know you will not agree to anything....and we won't ask you to do so as well......................but would only request not to pour out bitterness...........eventually you have to pay for this..........................as Mehtab ji said nobody is forcing you to go there.............je changa ni kehna ghatoghat manda ta na kaho....

lets come to kachi baani now........what is kachi baani.....kachi baani is ninda, chugli, jhooth, fareb, khushamad and gande geet that we listen and watch on tv......

you might be saying...when they re-word a shabad in simple language and sing the shabad, is kachi bani.......oh waheguru ji if they keep singing the original shabad...adhi sangat nu usda matlab vi samajh ni aunda...it's translated into simple words...so everyone can understand it....bacause all level of sangat sits there.......pehli de bache ton leke phd tak......

You should read Baba Nand Singh ji's jeewan...all of your doubts will be answered(if you really need to clarify them).......his initial Guru (don't know how to word this, but when you read the jeewan, you'll know what I am referring to)) were Sant Baba Harnam Singh ji Bhuchonwale...you might want to start from Baba Harnam Singh Bhuchowaleaa's jeewan.......will change your life.....

[rinku_sikh]

hmmm... I go to Nanaksar Thath in Wolverhampton. http://www.nanaksarthath.co.uk

They do make langar and it does have a Nishan Sahib. It is a Gurdwara.

There is nothing cultist about it. The Gurdwara goes by Sikh values 100% and I'd suggest people come and have a look for themselves.

Some of the activites I'm involved in at the Gurdwara at weekends:

- Punjabi Classes

- Santhiya Classes (by Bhai Baldeep Singh - Birmingham)

- Sikhi Classes

- Kirtan Classes (Sat)

- Gatka Classes (Sun)

Upmost respect is for Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

This Gurdwara also funded the opening and running of http://www.gurunanaksikhacademy.co.uk/ which is now one of the top schools in the UK as well as lots of other Gurdwaras and schools around the WORLD. IMHO other Gurdwaras should take example of such places and how they have spread Sikhi around the world.

[simran345]

I think the above posters Tuhintuhin and rinku_sikh are spot on, the satkaar is unique and very very lovely to watch too.

I think when people have been used to committee wale gurdware and not experinced other gurdwaras they think something odd about them, but we dont realise that we are the ones that have been isolated from the world and not seen satkaar and sampardasa that have been going for years and years from proper Mahapursh/brahmgiani times, thus to our brain it seems different and with me personally i must say i am beginning to enjoy the adjustment. definitely not a cult, we had a Sukhmani Sahib ji paat at our house, and the sevadars were sooo soo gud with their satkaar, and didnt look down on us that we didnt know anything, the kirtanis are great too. They know how to sing..and it makes u want to know more about Sikhi.,

[Mehtab Singh]

So the answer is Nanaksar is NOT a cult, it is a satkaaryog samparda of the Khalsa Panth.