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Bro, it's better if you don't find out. Save yourself from the mental scarring and your ears bleeding. Trust me. :D

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How about the famous Gabbar Singh ??

Then we have all those rajputs that are called 'Singh' ??

I agree, that we shouldn't just use SIngh as a middle name and keep our caste determining clan names as the official surname.

It just identifies what clan and caste you could be.

for eg. if you say that your gourth or clan name is such and such, and that you are from pind so and so, then straight away the ones in the

know will identify exactly what caste you come from!

Maybe we should have a prefix of 'Sardar' for all the singh's that are amritdhari instead of mr so and so..

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How about the famous Gabbar Singh ??

Then we have all those rajputs that are called 'Singh' ??

I agree, that we shouldn't just use SIngh as a middle name and keep our caste determining clan names as the official surname.

It just identifies what clan and caste you could be.

for eg. if you say that your gourth or clan name is such and such, and that you are from pind so and so, then straight away the ones in the

know will identify exactly what caste you come from!

Maybe we should have a prefix of 'Sardar' for all the singh's that are amritdhari instead of mr so and so..

or last name khalsa with singh as middle name

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or last name khalsa with singh as middle name

Yes, but I find that a lot of 3HO's have the last name Khalsa !

I can only imagine me being on the phone to someone and saying in a north american accent 'my name is........... Singh Khalsa".- I would just assume that they would immediately conclude that i'm a gora sikh!

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How about the famous Gabbar Singh ??

Then we have all those rajputs that are called 'Singh' ??

I agree, that we shouldn't just use SIngh as a middle name and keep our caste determining clan names as the official surname.

It just identifies what clan and caste you could be.

for eg. if you say that your gourth or clan name is such and such, and that you are from pind so and so, then straight away the ones in the

know will identify exactly what caste you come from!

Maybe we should have a prefix of 'Sardar' for all the singh's that are amritdhari instead of mr so and so..

The whole purpose of getting blessed with the last name Singh and Kaur was to " Keeping the surname Singh signified getting rid of caste, because in the South Asian subcontinent, one's last name would identify their caste. By joining the single brotherhood of having a surname of 'Singh,' the caste was gotten rid of in Sikh families..

And shamefully our so called Sikhs want to "keep our caste determining clan names as the official surname"

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Yes, but I find that a lot of 3HO's have the last name Khalsa !

I can only imagine me being on the phone to someone and saying in a north american accent 'my name is........... Singh Khalsa".- I would just assume that they would immediately conclude that i'm a gora sikh!

Should that be seen as a handicap in any way?

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How long before we start tacking on other religous words to our names to show our status? I can just see it now, people with names like Jaspal Singh Khalsa Akaal Purakh Waheguru Shaheed Kharku Hari Dev Guru Sardar.

Also, if everyone uses Singh/Kaur as a surname it makes things like hospital records difficult. I know some of the older generation have had their records mixed up with other people with the same name and birthdays and been completely misdiagnosed. If you are really that concerned about kids using surnames to find out caste, how about we stop acting like caste is the center point of their existence and identity? Getting rid of surnames is one of those superficial ways of brushing a problem under the carpet.

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Remember that only amrithdaris are given the name Singh and Kaur.I don't want anybody who isn't baptized to use it.

I haven't read the whole thread, but I hope someone pointed out the fact that the surname Singh has a very old preSikh history with Rajputs.

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I haven't read the whole thread, but I hope someone pointed out the fact that the surname Singh has a very old preSikh history with Rajputs.

Yes Rajput were the first one to use Singh as their Second name - They respect their weapon as we do - they r also fighters - their histroy is remarkable :D i luv their monuments and the forts of their kings.. Prithviraj Chauhan was remarkable King :fight:

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I haven't read the whole thread, but I hope someone pointed out the fact that the surname Singh has a very old preSikh history with Rajputs.

Yes I did mention the famous Gabbarh Singh !!!

But I'm not sure they understood, maybe I'm in the older generation !!!

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If non amrthdharis cant have Singh or Kaur as their surname or middle name, does that mean they cant marry in the Gurdwara.

As for Sings and Kaur regarding the Rajputs, can they marry in the Gurdwara?

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If non amrthdharis cant have Singh or Kaur as their surname or middle name, does that mean they cant marry in the Gurdwara.

As for Sings and Kaur regarding the Rajputs, can they marry in the Gurdwara?

There nothing like kaur in Rajputs :)

N yes If Rajput wants they can get married in Gurdwara n if non amritdhari wants they can get married in Temple/Church etc...

Its the choice no compulsion :D

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There nothing like kaur in Rajputs :)

N yes If Rajput wants they can get married in Gurdwara n if non amritdhari wants they can get married in Temple/Church etc...

Its the choice no compulsion :D

Yes, name Kaur is used by Rajputs and sometimes it may appear as Kunwar (sanskrit)

N yes If Rajput wants they can get married in Gurdwara n if non amritdhari wants they can get married in Temple/Church etc...

You got that one wrong, the legislation from SGPC Sikh Reht Maryada, Anand Sanskar : (Sikh Matrimonial Ceremony and Conventions),

k. Persons professing faiths other than the Sikh faith cannot be joined in wedlock by the Anand Karaj ceremony.

Many Gurdwaras in in the UK don’t perform Anand karaj unless you possess Singh or Kaur in your full name, which means changing your name via deedpool to include the following.

Regarding the Church, you have to be part of the congregation for at least a year and if Catholic you have to be a baptised as a Catholic.

Regarding temples, Hindu or Buddhist, they don’t seem to have any issues performing the ceremony for non followers of their faith.

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