Ppl with haircut doing path get kamaii or no ?

[Khalistani187]

Ive always had a question in my mind say if a mona wakes up at amritvilla and starts doing nitnem then is he also getting kamai or phul out of it ! Or do you have to be amrit dhari to only get kamai ??? My cuzin asked me this question i thought it was the latter but not quite sure so plz do shed some light on this topic ! Thanks in advance...

[osingh]

100% they are getting phal (fruit) and spiritual kamai (earnings). It is great that this mona is getting up at amritvela and reciting bani, surely Guru Sahib has done kirpa on this soul.

Any person, of any race/background/religion who recites Gurbani gets laabh (profit).

However one might ask then what is the point of amrit? Why not just recite Bani and forget Rehit - i.e. abstaining from intoxicants, keeping kesh (hair).....

A non-amritdhari person can recite Gurbani but until they "Chhakk Amrit" (get baptised) they will be without Naam. Gurbani gives us updesh over and over again to Jap Naam (recite Naam), without Naam we cannot meet Gobind which is the main objective in this life. The main objective of Amrit Sanchaar is to bestow the seeker with Naam.

So a non-amritdhari should continue to recite Gurbani and adopt the Rehits of Guru Sahib until finally Guru Sahib does kirpa and bestows them the gift of Amrit from the Panj Piare.

Those that are interested in walking on the path of Gursikhi should definitely recite as much Gurbani as possible, especially Mool Mantar and nitnem banees such as Jap ji Sahib and Rehraas Sahib.

Bhul Chuk Maaaf

[savinderpalsingh]

i would suggest you to read sakhi of Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji and the goldsmith

[Guest guest]

Bani doesn't do any harm to anyone. It will only help you but the oerson mona or not. but take this example:

You educate yourself at home. You do not have any admission into the school/exams but you do study and learn how to read and write at home. Yes that will definately help you in life because you are able to read/write. But look at the difference, if you had admission into a school then the education woudl be of more value to you. It would be recognised.

Exactly the same way of you are an amritdhari guru ka sikh, then doing paath/sew/simran will be syored like a bank account for you.

it is like medicine. Sometimes when you are ill and see the doctor, they give you medicine (in sikhi terms: naam). Then they might also tell you to stay away from certain foods (in sikhi terms: rehat maryada: do's/dont's). You will only progress if you have taken naam from the panj pyare. So to conclude you have to be amritdhari to get full kamai.

[tuhintuhin]

yes, they do.....for sure........by doing this Guru ji is making them clean their bhanda to get HIS kirpa/daat......

waking up and going path at Amrt wela itself is a big big kirpa, not everyone gets it........probably mona doing this is way much better than an amritdhari not doing this......

bhul chuk maaf

[Mehtab Singh]

Sukhmani Sahib says - jo jo japai tis ki gath hoye

[Gurpreet14]

I had seen a real example in my life regarding this - A person who was mona who did sewa n read gurbani etc... did what all he could... one day became a Gursikh having a pagg on head :D

One more this is recent one- i have one gurdwara near my home... there is one muslim banda who do lot of sewa in gurdwara,,, Lot means lot i think he hardly understand gurbani comes to gurdwara in a muslim liwaaz like wearing a topi n kurta pajama and keeping a daari like other muslims keeps withour muush....

I remember on this Guru Nanak jayanti in Nov 2012 i was in gurdwara doing langur di sewa.. i saw this man again who was following sewadarji ... i was wondering y he is following him :angry2: ..... then i saw that, that muslim banda was actually conviencing the sewadar to tie a orange color dastar on his head... he was about to remove his topi where the sewadarji said.. that dont remove it we will tie this pagg on top of it... that muslim banda came out from that room n was actually tieing a turban ... n recently when i visited gururdwara i again saw him in turban n i think he is trying to keep kesh as well as i can see some long hairs coming out of his pagg :D ... i wll one day do himmat n will ask that banda do he understand gurbani or not ......

One more near my home there was a mental girl staying with her family- he was abnormal from the day she was born.... as her home was very near to gurdwara she always goes to gurdwara n would sit there for long hours... some1 told to not let her come to gurdwara as she can harm others... but the gyaniji said when she will harm then we will think about her ...we should let her enter or not... i am a kin of funky person i just to tease her n make fun out of it said to her --- hey u crazy do u know gurbani .. visiting gurdwara daily n guess what happened she recited all the thing which a person coming to gurdwara may know. she recited all the path n waak etc.. i was like :wow: .. from that day i never laugh at anyone i did mistake there a big mistake but i was very young at that time probably in 8th-9th STD :( :(

This is what kamai is.. just having kesh does not make u sikh,.. reciting his name makes u a sikh

[tuhintuhin]

I remember this real incident..... heard from Giani Thakur singh ji's katha.....he was doing katha in England those days.....he was talking about the higher level spiritualty......

one day at the end of the katha....a mona young sikh near about 30's followed and asked him about what happens when the surat gets to the higher level....Giani ji said I smiled and told him that it's all lie, nothing happens because he thought he was there to argue about it..........but then the guy explained that he does 8 hour simran daily and now when he comes to Gurdwara,,,Sant baba Isher Singh Rarha sahib will come to him from the saroop of Guru Granth Sahib ji and put his hand over his head and then go back into the saroop........Giani ji said he was surprised to hear that,,,,,,,then Giani ji shared the gurmat info regarding that with him......Giani ji said probably that guy was born because of Babji's Bachans......and have so much kirpa.......

kaiaan te Amrit shakan ton pehlan kirpa ho jandi hai, kaiaa te baachon...it all depends on Guruj's raza, bakhshish and kirpa......

[Jonny101]

If a Mona wakes up at Amritvela does Paath he will get spiritual phal for this, that is why I feel that a Mona should do atleast the Nitnem if nothing else. It's only 7 Banis, but it will make Guru Jee happy with you and that is what matters, Paath cuts many bad karmas plus increases Kamaee. But as you follow more and more hukams(rehit) of Guru Jee, you will get more Phal for the same effort. You get what you put in, the more rehit you put in the better. So a Sikh keeping/obeying Rahit is on a fast track on increasing his Kamaee.

Ultimately a Sikh needs to realize how blessed we are to have human joon and even more blessed to be associated with the Sarb Sresht of all Dharms i.e Sikh Dharm. Only by doing a lot of good Karams in our previous lifetimes were we blessed to be associated with the Sikh dharm in this lifetime. So to pass away our temporary and short existence in this world and not fully taking advantage of this opportunity to become spiritually enlightened as per Gurmat would be a shame. We should not want to take another birth which is full of dukh.

[VanHelsingh]

If a person with cut hair continally does Nitnem with prem and upholds all other rehat (honesty, integrity, respect, hardwork, etc.) I have no doubt he or she will gradually feel the pull of Amrit. It's impossible for them not to.