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Sangat Ji, I need your help. I need to find out which gurdwaras in BC have table and chairs and which one does not? I understand there are close to 50-70 gurdwaras in bc.. It's more of research as to how far this issue of table and chair in langar hall has penetrated in sikh community in BC also besides personally speaking we are thinking moving out of city environment-toronto, want to move small town in BC/AB somewhere.

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Sangat Ji, I need your help. I need to find out which gurdwaras in BC have table and chairs and which one does not? I understand there are close to 50-70 gurdwaras in bc.. It's more of research as to how far this issue of table and chair in langar hall has penetrated in sikh community in BC also besides personally speaking we are thinking moving out of city environment-toronto, want to move small town in BC/AB somewhere.

What do you classify as a table and chair problem? Have you been to the new Dasmesh Darbar Gurudwara building in Brampton? It has two small tables for bujurg to sit if they cant sit on the floor...

And no offence is meant, but is this really something that you would take into serious consideration before moving to a new area? while it does partly reflect on the type of sangat there (more so its management), I think there are a lot more factors to consider here :p

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Veer Jee,

BC has nice scenerey here and there, but that's about it.

From what I've heard BC is way worse than Ontario.

In what ways?

  • weather-wise (Ontario has better weather)
  • MAJOR gang/drug/gun/youth problem (due to water access from the ocean and land access from USA)
  • MAJOR smuggling problem (due to water access from the ocean and land access from USA)
  • MAJOR missionary/kala-afghana stronghold and brainwashed mindset
  • Modern Sikhism takeover (examples: tables and chairs for EVERYONE, not just seniors/disabled individuals. Also a major problem is the purposeful mixing of culture and religion. In BC, Nagar Keertans have Bhangra, Giddha and singing performances going throughout the Nagar Keertan, on huge stages and what-not. And the really messed up part is that when you see the people at the Nagat Keertans being interviewed, they say they LOVE it and that there should be more of it happening. More people are focused on the dancing and partying there rather than the Nagar Keertan itself. It's really messed up over there.) You would NEVER (hopefully) see that in Toronto. A lot of Toronto Sangat actually shakes their heads when they hear about these kinds of things going on in BC.
  • Ontario has ALOT of Sangat. There is a large number of AKJ, DDT, Nanaksar, etc. Lots of Gursikhs and senior Gursikhs in Toronto or visit Toronto all the time.
  • Last but not the least, Ontario has just as nice scenery as BC. If you go even just 20-30 minutes outside of the city, there are beautiful landscapes with trees, quiet neighbourhoods and amazing atmosphere.

^ That's what I've understood from others over the years.

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Guru Nanak Darbar Sikh Temple

4298 Davis Road

gurudwara in prince george BC ..... they have table chairs for everybody...and everybody is allowed with shoes inside langar hall.and they support dhunda.

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Guru Nanak Darbar Sikh Temple

4298 Davis Road

gurudwara in prince george BC ..... they have table chairs for everybody...and everybody is allowed with shoes inside langar hall.and they support dhunda.

Has Dhunda never spoken up against the tables and chairs in the Gurdwaras he does Katha in?

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This is not BC but a Gurdwara wants to ban the Kirpan in the USA. The Tribune – Move by US gurdwara to ban ‘kirpan’ upsets clergy; Issue to be discussed by heads of all five Takhts

Perneet Singh, Tribune News Service


Amritsar, March 1. Akal Takht has taken serious note of the move by the Gurdwara of Rochester in the US to ban ‘kirpan’ in the gurdwara premises.


The Akal Takht chief, Jathedar Giani Gurbachan Singh, said it was a serious matter that would be deliberated upon at the next meeting of the Jathedars of all five Takhts.


He said a panel formed to investigate the matter had recently submitted its preliminary report to him. (The Tribune has a copy of the report sent by Bhai Sahib Satpal Singh Khalsa, committee coordinator).


The report says the gurdwara trustees had submitted affidavits supporting an application for preliminary injunction for “barring all persons entering the gurdwara premises from bringing in sheathed swords larger than 4-6 inches or other weapons that could cause injury or threat to persons within the premises”.


It says the trustees had said in their affidavits that “the families may wish to worship at home at their worship rooms and such families do not have to come to the gurdwara.” It also says that the judge had approved the ‘kirpan’ ban after the gurdwara showed it as a “dangerous weapon”.


The report says that the ban will have a serious impact on the Sikh way of life as well as gurdwaras worldwide. It apprehends that other courts in the US may use this injunction to ban the ‘kirpan’ all over the US and Canada.


“This is a matter of grave concern for the Sikh Sangat all over the world, particularly in the US,” the report reads.


Probe committee coordinator Khlasa said he had tried to contact the trustees of the Gurdwara of Rochester and had even written to them, but “they refused to meet me or any of our panel members. They refused to acknowledge the legitimacy of the committee appointed by Akal Takht.”


Sikhs abroad fear that the move may weaken the community’s fight for permission to Sikh children to wear the ‘kirpan’ to schools and colleges.


Possible Implications


The ban will have a serious impact on the Sikh way of life as well as gurdwaras worldwide


Other courts in the US may use this injunction to ban the “kirpan” in gurdwaras in US, Canada


Sikhs abroad fear the move may weaken community’s fight for permission to wear the ‘kirpan’ to schools, colleges and workplaces


http://www.tribuneindia.com/2013/20130302/punjab.htm

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Does anyone know if gurdwara at golden, bc got table and chairs?..If yes, yea what da hell, whats one more going to hurt? I will open gurdwara offering traditional sikhi :p



50-70 Gurughars in one city? Don't tell me they all originated from one committee falling out, lol? :lol2:

Thats whole province dude, each Canadian province is equivalent to your whole englaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand..lol

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I was in quesnel, bc last year, its about 1 hr away from prince george, they got two gurdwara opposite of each other one have table and chair and other one - normal its like franchise competition...what a waste of sangat money..!!!

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There are people in bC who used to and some still go to darbar hall bareheaded and some of them do not bow to Guru Granth sahib as well. They sit in diwan hall bareheaded.twice i was there in victoria and i have seen it with my own eyes. These people really make mockery of sikh traditions.They come there for picnic and have langar. Please do not ask if they are sikhs. the answer is yes they are sikhs who came from punjab long time back and follow western traditions may not be in academics but culturally.

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I would have thought that the weather all year round is better in BC, especially Vancouver.

This is the reason we picked here when we came from UK, although we had checked out Toronto, Calgary,Edmonton,Ottawa..etc...

The most appealing place for us brits was Ottawa. But the cold snowy winters of Ontario put us off.

Coming from UK, the crime here is Minimum,- I don't think much of it !

Infact back in UK where we used to sleep upstairs, then we would activate the house alarm every night downstairs whilst asleep ans still someone attempted to break in !!!

You don't get that crap even in the worst areas in Canada !

Yes in Surrey they have a lot of Indo-canadians involved in drug trade/supply..etc.. but still these figures are not as bad or near as the same size cities in US.

As for Gurdwaras, I have only stuck to a couple of them and they are not communist/comrade.

There is only ONE public Gurdwara in Vancouver as far as I know, and that is where the big issue of chairs/tables has been in play with the commitees- but the youth slate is still running the show !

Like I say, I've only been here a few years, so I can't give the best advise, but I can't imagine a darbar where they walk around bare-headed !

I'm not sure, but if this is the case then this needs to be exposed !

Compared to Ontario it is much less crowded in BC, and it is very easy to settle in for a quiet life near the city.

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brampton is cool!! :) if your gonna move out of toronto and stuff, I reccomend mission. mission is a town in bc near abotssfield and it has a good sikh population and gurrdwara and stuff. You have really beautiful scenery there like my cousins live there and you can see the forest and the rockies, its beautiful.

but alberta is so cold!!!!

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