Please Help- Need Aid in Understanding What Bhagat Kabir Ji Means Here

[Beginner]

A collection of his writings are in a book, and some of the English translations say this (they're accurate):

"i saw nothing in chanting Ram, and i saw nothing in books"

"If there were another God besides You, what would it be?

If it were that way, then what would it be?

If it were this way, then what would it be?"

"My lips wont utter Ram,

My Ram recites me,

I have found peace, Kabira!"

These are poems of Bhagat Kabir Ji translated to English. I'm really looking for help in understanding them. Thanks!

For more of an idea of where its from, this is the book http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://dipti.ragadesign.in/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_img/public/06%2520Ghat%2520Ghat%2520Kabir%2520%257C%2520the%2520kabir%2520project.png&imgrefurl=http://dipti.ragadesign.in/interactive/kabir-project&h=679&w=983&sz=856&tbnid=y9ooiQAhqXJLAM:&tbnh=86&tbnw=125&zoom=1&usg=__2nACSN2efMTvZSCwedm22wHyw4c=&docid=x10Z1JySWWwadM&sa=X&ei=qF1XUdCoIeaIiALq3YCwDw&ved=0CEIQ9QEwBA&dur=190

[luckysingh99]

I'm sure that you aware this is not gurbani although it is Kabirji's work.

However, whatever Guruji picked to include of Kabir's in the adi granth is what constitutes to gurbani.

I know there is a lot of his poetry available that has similar messages as per gurbani.

To understand the above, I think you need to know a little about Kabirji's early life.

Basically, he was adopted and spent years under the wing of his brahmin guru -Ramanand.

From the years spent their he 'realised' the falseness and blind hindu practices which made him understand 'Gurmat' as per Guru Nanak ji.

Now, to answer your question the above -

"i saw nothing in chanting Ram, and i saw nothing in books" - ---He's saying that he learned nothing except for the blind prayers and practices.

"If there were another God besides You, what would it be?

If it were that way, then what would it be?

If it were this way, then what would it be?"

---------------These few lines are saying that is Ram the God ? or if not then who is the other God ? He was pretty much clued up about the concept of IK ONKAAR.

Because, according to this the God becomes who you make it, so how can you accustom your own God depending on what you need and feel ??

"My lips wont utter Ram,

My Ram recites me,

I have found peace, Kabira!"

......-----These are very strong few lines that you can only interpret after you have studied Kabirji's other work.- And I really like and admire these. !!

What he is saying here is -- That the Ram or God he was looking for and trying to find has instead found him !!!

What does this mean ??

-Well, this is what actual ''GOD Realisation'' is.

When someone is enlightened and had has really ''Realised'' what God is, then they will tell you that you realise that it wasn't just you looking for God because all that time 'HE' (God) was looking for you as well.

So when Kabirji says ''my ram recites me'', - then this is what he means.

He goes on further to say ''I have found peace''.- this means I have got the ''GOD-Realisation'' !!

These are my own interpretations from what I know and have learned, and I hope they provide you with some assistance and understanding.

All Errors are mine and I stand corrected by any other learned members that may contribute.

[gurdeepsinghjohal]

There are two different dates of Kabir Sahib ji birth.