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khalsa should fight the vices daily, I dont think it has done your amrit/rehat any good.

what would you have done in a intimate situation probably given in , then your amrit would have been broken,

Put it this way you need to do pesh to find out, otherwise you will never know.

But what happens next time you get the urge, i think your are a male by you username, i hope you are !had this been a wet dream, then ok you have no control, but this was in your control all be it tough!

I,m not judging you and feel for you, but this is a tough one to answer and you need to do pesh to find out.

But how your are gonna explain this one, i have no idea :blush2: :omg:

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khalsa should fight the vices daily, I dont think it has done your amrit/rehat any good.

what would you have done in a intimate situation probably given in , then your amrit would have been broken,

Put it this way you need to do pesh to find out, otherwise you will never know.

But what happens next time you get the urge, i think your are a male by you username, i hope you are !had this been a wet dream, then ok you have no control, but this was in your control all be it tough!

I,m not judging you and feel for you, but this is a tough one to answer and you need to do pesh to find out.

But how your are gonna explain this one, i have no idea :blush2: :omg:

What is your source on this information?

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my brain, what a dumb question, I think we have a space cadet here, looney tunes or something!

enough said on this topic, if you dont know what is right and wrong then you need help, go see a dr or chop it off :lol2: i dont have the answer just my thoughts, no one can answer this except the panj pyare and Maharaj.

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my brain, what a dumb question, I think we have a space cadet here, looney tunes or something!

enough said on this topic, if you dont know what is right and wrong then you need help, go see a dr or chop it off :lol2:

That's what I mean... You told the guy to go pesh for this. What is your source that masturbation needs peshi? Someone is confused, and you just told him to go pesh.. Again, what's your source for giving out this advice to someone? Where does it say to pesh for masturbation? And please don't say your mind...

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Well, if your a teenager you will get these urges. If you give in don't beat yourself up about it. It makes it worse. Just carry on. Have you lied, were really angered, or had a lusty thought? Well you should go pesh for that too. We'd be going pesh everyday then! Learn to control the thoughts and feelings. Don't let the five be your master Singh, become the master of them.

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That's what I mean... You told the guy to go pesh for this. What is your source that masturbation needs peshi? Someone is confused, and you just told him to go pesh.. Again, what's your source for giving out this advice to someone? Where does it say to pesh for masturbation? And please don't say your mind...

If you think masturbation is ok in sikhi your are not right in the head, but how else can he find out you tell me !, stop asking stupid questions, at least i have tried to help, obviously you have the same problem as the op that why you are asking silly question the panj pyare are the only ones who can answer yes or no to op's amrit broken or not, i cant answer that and you certainly are not capable.

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If you think masturbation is ok in sikhi your are not right in the head, but how else can he find out you tell me !, stop asking stupid questions, at least i have tried to help, obviously you have the same problem as the op that why you are asking silly question the panj pyare are the only ones who can answer yes or no to op's amrit broken or not, i cant answer that and you certainly are not capable.

Where did I say that masturbation is ok? I just asked why it requires peshi. Let me ask you a question. If you check out a girl, and think a lustful thought, would you pesh? If you lie to someone, would you pesh? If you hurt someone's feeling, would you pesh? If you get angry and hit someone, would you pesh? Where do you draw the line?

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I have had a similar discussion with a few people before from a range of religious backgrounds including a doctor.... and I am still unsure, it is normal for your average regular guy to have lustful thoughts, from a Sikhi perspective it is important to have control over your vices such as Kaam but it exists and you need it to a certain extent to procreate right!?

BUT it is equally unhealthy to subdue sexual energy which is something Catholics do and look at what their priests are known to do!?!

In addition, Sikhs especially in some Jathay think of sexual energy as something absolutely disgusting and something that should be shunned at all costs except for procreation... and yet these Jathay who suppress such thoughts are the ones that are hit with the most scandals... Sexual repression never works... and if you ask a young guy to repress their thoughts and not give them a safe outlet... this is not good! Which is a reason why in bible belt areas in America and Amish people get married at 16+ ...

I think British protestant views towards masturbation and all things sexual have influenced the prevalent suppression of anything sexual hence the staunch objection to such matters in the Dasam Granth?!

And so is masturbation as a kaami outlet wrong? Yes. But is shouting in anger as a khroodi outlet wrong? Yes. Is bragging about your new car or job as a hankaari outlet wrong? Yes.... These are vices, we accept them and fight them everyday and reduce their outlet?!

Most health professionals see masturbation as a healthy practice in moderation. It is known to boost immune system, reduce stress and fight depression. It is known to reduce your sexual libido-desire and thus helps to fight kaam in your day to day life! surely thats a good thing?!

Just my thoughts...

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Where did I say that masturbation is ok? I just asked why it requires peshi. Let me ask you a question. If you check out a girl, and think a lustful thought, would you pesh? If you lie to someone, would you pesh? If you hurt someone's feeling, would you pesh? If you get angry and hit someone, would you pesh? Where do you draw the line?

Doing and thinking are two different things, thinking about say killing someone and actually killing them are not the same, lustful thought,are hard to stop, but the idea is to first of all move your eyes away, then pull yourself together, there are not many people who can control there thoughts (Brahmgianis), its how you respond/act both physically and mentally when a thought takes place is what matters. Masturbation is physically reacting to a thought (lust), now is it wrong, like i have said many times but you don't seem to understand is

(a) it more than just a thought it is an action, (b) to find out if that person's amrit is broken or not they will have to do pesh, because we the sangat do not have the authority to answer this question. As for doing pesh for thought's or hurting someones feeling is up to the individual if they are asking is my amrit broken then they must be having doubts and the only way to stop doubts is to do pesh and Ardas. If your are not saying masturbation is ok then you must be saying it is not ok.

which it is not both to a person's physical and mental well being, it just fuels lust more and more, get married, I'm not judging anyone .

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Where did I say that masturbation is ok? I just asked why it requires peshi. Let me ask you a question. If you check out a girl, and think a lustful thought, would you pesh? If you lie to someone, would you pesh? If you hurt someone's feeling, would you pesh? If you get angry and hit someone, would you pesh? Where do you draw the line?

Right on Bro !

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Fine you guys do what you think is right, i have no more to say on this subject, we will all answer to Guru sahib in the end, so if this does not require pesh then you are ok. :biggrin2:

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I have had a similar discussion with a few people before from a range of religious backgrounds including a doctor.... and I am still unsure, it is normal for your average regular guy to have lustful thoughts, from a Sikhi perspective it is important to have control over your vices such as Kaam but it exists and you need it to a certain extent to procreate right!?

BUT it is equally unhealthy to subdue sexual energy which is something Catholics do and look at what their priests are known to do!?!

In addition, Sikhs especially in some Jathay think of sexual energy as something absolutely disgusting and something that should be shunned at all costs except for procreation... and yet these Jathay who suppress such thoughts are the ones that are hit with the most scandals... Sexual repression never works... and if you ask a young guy to repress their thoughts and not give them a safe outlet... this is not good! Which is a reason why in bible belt areas in America and Amish people get married at 16+ ...

I think British protestant views towards masturbation and all things sexual have influenced the prevalent suppression of anything sexual hence the staunch objection to such matters in the Dasam Granth?!

And so is masturbation as a kaami outlet wrong? Yes. But is shouting in anger as a khroodi outlet wrong? Yes. Is bragging about your new car or job as a hankaari outlet wrong? Yes.... These are vices, we accept them and fight them everyday and reduce their outlet?!

Most health professionals see masturbation as a healthy practice in moderation. It is known to boost immune system, reduce stress and fight depression. It is known to reduce your sexual libido-desire and thus helps to fight kaam in your day to day life! surely thats a good thing?!

Just my thoughts...

Brilliant Post!

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