Discussion on "Anmol Bachans" thread

[tuhintuhin]

This thread is started for explanations regarding the bachans in "Anmol Bachans" thread @ http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/71139-anmol-bachans/page-2

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Topic : "Parmeshar Bhagta vich vasda hai"

Many people object this bachan by Sant Baba Harnam Singh ji Rampurkhera that rab sirf bhagta vich nahin sab vich vasda hai,

....no doubt..... and mahapurkhs bachan has not denied this fact.

What is the difference between bhagat, sant, mahapurkh, fakir etc and the normal people like us?

Bhagats etc remains calm in all situations, whereas we shake at every point

Bhagats are immersed in bhagti 24/7 even when they are doing chores, and we know where we stand

Bhagats never wish for anyone's bad, and we are always ready to fight and point out at others

Bhagats can sacrifice whatever they have for others without any kind of discrimination, and we can't even bear a look of our enemy and full of selfishness and jealous, always trying to prove others wrong and see our joy in others failures

In all above situations, God dwells in both parties, but why normal people can't be like bhagats etc who have more qualities than them?

The answer is because Bhagats are admired as they have not only known but experienced God within themselves and others, whereas we only have this piece of knowledge that God is in everyone.

So when one wonders why Bhagat is different from normal people, they ask them why and how can they experience God and become bhagats themselves. Bhagat is just a word to describe person with high spiritual level who have attained God by doing virtues and meditating on HIS name. Bhagats motivate others to do simran and sewa.

And that's what we do here always looking for motivation to move ahead in sikhi path.

[gurdeepsinghjohal]

There was a bairagi when he met with mahapurash he established first khalsa raj.

Definition of Mahapurash/sants/brahamgyani just vary.

[luckysingh99]

If we can all find the God within us, then there is also a 'bhaghat' within us. !!

I have said this before-- who is a true bhaghat that you can take me to ???

Infact, I don't even know of a single sant or babaji that lives according to Guru Nanak ji's philosophy !!

The 3 tenets of sikhi are Kirat karna, Vand shakna and Naam japna.

How many sant baba ji's earn their own roti and dolath ??

How many actually put some sweat in to earn for themselves and others ??

The way I see it, they rely on sangat donations, and have lifestyles of rich and famous !!

There has only ever been a rare few who are true sants and mahapursh !!

[tuhintuhin]

There are many waheguru ji....if you don't know any, doesn't mean there aren't any......."angoor khate hain" no not until you've tasted them......and this is not right either that if you find one fake one, we can label the rest as same.....

................je sangat karnge appe pat lag jana.......kai sache vi ne te kai jhoothe vi

[gurdeepsinghjohal]

angoor khate aap ji vaste hai.

ਨ ਸਬਦੁ ਬੂਝੈ ਨ ਜਾਣੈ ਬਾਣੀ ॥

N Sabadh Boojhai N Jaanai Baanee ||

न सबदु बूझै न जाणै बाणी ॥

The blind, self-willed manmukh does not understand the Shabad; he does not know the Word of the Guru's Bani,

ਮਨਮੁਖਿ ਅੰਧੇ ਦੁਖਿ ਵਿਹਾਣੀ ॥

Manamukh Andhhae Dhukh Vihaanee ||

मनमुखि अंधे दुखि विहाणी ॥

And so he passes his life in misery.

Read Mudavni for understanding how you become a good sikh.

[tuhintuhin]

Thank you I accept it....now please let the thread move forward peacefully......