Popular Post arvinder singh Posted May 11, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Dear all, Recent acquittal of sajjan kumar proves that justice still eludes Sikhs. It is highy improbable Sikhs would ever get justice in this set up. We should take our case in international court of justice to (1) Send a message to India that Sikhs do not believe justice will ever be served in India. , (2)Get international acknowledgement crimes against humanity related to Sikhs took place. (3) International identification of the state,its involved parties, individuals who participated in massacare. (4) attempt to prove genocide of Sikhs happened. So far from the current reading, I think this is most challenging 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singh135 Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Who is able to do this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasSinghKhalsa Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Who is able to do this? I believe Sikhs For Justice - Gurpatwant Singh Punnan, he is the man, he has the passion, he has the guts, he has the spirit, he has KAUMI DARD. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arvinder singh Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasSinghKhalsa Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court There are 3 men of honour who need to group together and initiate the fight - Gurpatwant Singh Pannun, Jarnail Singh, Karnail Singh PeerMohammad. Support from UK/Canada/USA Sikhs will be always there. Forget any support from Akali Dal (Badal), they are agents ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arvinder singh Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I was reading more about international criminal court.India had refused to sign Rome statue,which extends Court's jurisdiction over the country. In other words India does not recognizes international Criminal court. Furthermore,only cases on or after 2002 can be prosecuted because Rome Statue came into force then. However prosecution of Sudan and Darfur,who are not signatories to international court was Initiated by referral from members of security council. Looks like everyone is inventing its own Rules to suit themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jatwal Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 how about doing paath and asking for Guru's help? insist of looking for other people. just a matter of time before some sikh will deliver just to kumar and others. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsingh Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 how about doing paath and asking for Guru's help? insist of looking for other people. just a matter of time before some sikh will deliver just to kumar and others. The Guru Sahibs said Sikhs should not do just Path alone although very important but take actions as well (Miri Piri). Hence why they entered into discussions with rulers and fought battles and got allies together from different areas and communities 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagtarSinghKhalsa Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I was reading more about international criminal court.India had refused to sign Rome statue,which extends Court's jurisdiction over the country. In other words India does not recognizes international Criminal court. Furthermore,only cases on or after 2002 can be prosecuted because Rome Statue came into force then. However prosecution of Sudan and Darfur,who are not signatories to international court was Initiated by referral from members of security council. Looks like everyone is inventing its own Rules to suit themselves. The above is correct. The Court can generally exercise jurisdiction only in three cases: i) if the accused is a national of a state party (India is not a state party) ii) if the alleged crime took place on the territory of a state party (India is not a state party); or iii) if a situation is referred to the Court by the United Nations Security Council Sikhs would need to convince the UN Security Council. The International came into being on 1 July 2002—the date its founding treaty, the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, came into force—and it can prosecute only crimes committed on or after that date. The ICC is legally independent from the United Nations. However, the Rome Statute grants certain powers to the United Nations Security Council. Because the ICC cannot look into anything that happened before its establishment in 2002, it cannot be said that the ICC is functionally independent from the UN. Article 13 allows the Security Council to refer to the Court situations that would not otherwise fall under the Court's jurisdiction. Sikhs would need to convince the Security Council to use Article 13 to look at India and if it was possible to look at events before 2002. The original post was about the International Court of Justice (ICJ). It is the primary judicial branch of the United Nations. Its main functions are to settle legal disputes submitted to it by states. In contentious cases (adversarial proceedings seeking to settle a dispute), the ICJ produces a binding ruling between states that agree to submit to the ruling of the court. Only states may be parties in contentious cases. Individuals, corporations, parts of a federal state, NGOs, UN organs and self-determination groups are excluded from direct participation in cases, although the Court may receive information from public international organizations. This does not preclude non-state interests from being the subject of proceedings if one state brings the case against another. Therefore, Sikhs may be able to bring a case against India through another member state - this would probably need to be a legal dispute concerning a Sikh homeland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arvinder singh Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/1984-anti-sikh-riots-chargesheet-that-names-sajjan-kumar-lies-buried-in-police-files-for-21-years-365804?pfrom=home-lateststories 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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