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Funny, are you so uneducated in Sikhi that your taking websites as sources? Get educated brother, ignorance is not good.

Bhagats were contemponaries of the Gurus. As I said read Meharban Janamsakhi, do you even know what that is or whom its written by?

Waheguru bless our qaum with people like JSinghnz, who always are first ones to condemn Moneh but haven't read ONE puratan Granth.

The bhagats met Jagat Guru Nanak in Ayodhya, theres a Gurdwara there too.

Sikhs.org is not a puratan source. You can't get knowledge about Sikhi by reading a few sites only, deep knowledge in the Puratan scriptures and the Granths is needed along with critical thinking.

We are so fortunate that our panth has been lucky to have a learned scholar like SevadaarEKhalsa who will educate

ignorant people like me. I am so pleased that you have read a Puratan scripture which has now made you an authority in Sikh history.

Please enlighten us all on how Sheikh Farid and Sheikh Bhikan ceased to be Muslims and when.

We could then all nominate you for getting the Nobel Prize in History for discovering something which the

whole world is unaware of so far.

Focus your critical thinking on the topic being discussed here and keep your monah stuff for some other discussion.

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We are so fortunate that our panth has been lucky to have a learned scholar like SevadaarEKhalsa who will educate

ignorant people like me. I am so pleased that you have read a Puratan scripture which has now made you an authority in Sikh history.

Please enlighten us all on how Sheikh Farid and Sheikh Bhikan ceased to be Muslims and when.

We could then all nominate you for getting the Nobel Prize in History for discovering something which the

whole world is unaware of so far.

Focus your critical thinking on the topic being discussed here and keep your monah stuff for some other discussion.

I would say probably we need a new topic on this subject, but here are just some example Bhagat Baani's

Bhagat Kabir Jee - Naan Hum Hindu Naan Musalmaan, Allah Raam ke pind paran.

Bhagat Kabir Jee - Kahe Kabir jan bhaye Khalse, raam bhagat teh jaani.

Bhagat Naamdev Jee - Hindu Anna, turku kaana, dohan te giani seyana.

both of the above bhagat's are supposed to be from the Hindu clan, but bhagat's deny it !!!

Similarly, none of the bhagat's popularised as Muslim Bhagat's are in fact Muslims. Read back the historical/socialogical books, people from all faiths used to come to these Peers/Saints. My opinion is once these people so high in spiritual state reach one almighty god, religion concept goes away.

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You are truly ignorant. Right from 17th century in MEHARBAN JANAMSAKHI till Gyani Gurdit Singhs book Bhagat Bani Ithas recently it has been TIME TO TIME proven again that JAGAT Guru Nanak gave Naam to Bhagats and they were his disciples.

Read some Puratan books. Reading one is better than none brother, and take the good stuff out of it. Ignorance is condemned in Gurbani in the harshest possible ways.

You read few articles on Internet with made up birth date of Bhagats (made up in the 20th century by authors like Max Macauliffe) and your the scholar? Don't base your Sikhi gyan on Internet only, there is alot of inaccuracies out there by the Nangs Missionaries etc.

Read Bhagat Bani ithas with several proofs. Old manuscrips mention Bhagat Kabir and Namdev being Guru Nanak Sahibs disciples, the photocopies of the manuscripts are recorded. Meeting with Bhagat Kabir are well known and three Gurdwaras commorate their meetings (Amarkantak, Ayodhya etc).

And Mona topic is justified as you are no one to judge the personal relationship of a Sikh and his Guru. Instead of criticising monas you should read more on Sikh history (no sarcasm).

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I would say probably we need a new topic on this subject, but here are just some example Bhagat Baani's

Bhagat Kabir Jee - Naan Hum Hindu Naan Musalmaan, Allah Raam ke pind paran.

Bhagat Kabir Jee - Kahe Kabir jan bhaye Khalse, raam bhagat teh jaani.

Bhagat Naamdev Jee - Hindu Anna, turku kaana, dohan te giani seyana.

both of the above bhagat's are supposed to be from the Hindu clan, but bhagat's deny it !!!

Similarly, none of the bhagat's popularised as Muslim Bhagat's are in fact Muslims. Read back the historical/socialogical books, people from all faiths used to come to these Peers/Saints. My opinion is once these people so high in spiritual state reach one almighty god, religion concept goes away.

Can you keep it simple and just some evidence that Sheikh Farid and Sheikh Bhikan were not Muslims.

You are just trying to reinvent the wheel.

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You are truly ignorant. Right from 17th century in MEHARBAN JANAMSAKHI till Gyani Gurdit Singhs book Bhagat Bani Ithas recently it has been TIME TO TIME proven again that JAGAT Guru Nanak gave Naam to Bhagats and they were his disciples.

Read some Puratan books. Reading one is better than none brother, and take the good stuff out of it. Ignorance is condemned in Gurbani in the harshest possible ways.

You read few articles on Internet with made up birth date of Bhagats (made up in the 20th century by authors like Max Macauliffe) and your the scholar? Don't base your Sikhi gyan on Internet only, there is alot of inaccuracies out there by the Nangs Missionaries etc.

Read Bhagat Bani ithas with several proofs. Old manuscrips mention Bhagat Kabir and Namdev being Guru Nanak Sahibs disciples, the photocopies of the manuscripts are recorded. Meeting with Bhagat Kabir are well known and three Gurdwaras commorate their meetings (Amarkantak, Ayodhya etc).

And Mona topic is justified as you are no one to judge the personal relationship of a Sikh and his Guru. Instead of criticising monas you should read more on Sikh history (no sarcasm).

So you dont want the Noble Prize for history to prove to all that Sheikh Farid and Sheikh Bhikan

were not Muslims?

And monas in your scholarly opinion have a personal relationship with the Guru,.

You are trully enlightened.

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I would say probably we need a new topic on this subject, but here are just some example Bhagat Baani's

Bhagat Kabir Jee - Naan Hum Hindu Naan Musalmaan, Allah Raam ke pind paran.

Bhagat Kabir Jee - Kahe Kabir jan bhaye Khalse, raam bhagat teh jaani.

Bhagat Naamdev Jee - Hindu Anna, turku kaana, dohan te giani seyana.

both of the above bhagat's are supposed to be from the Hindu clan, but bhagat's deny it !!!

Similarly, none of the bhagat's popularised as Muslim Bhagat's are in fact Muslims. Read back the historical/socialogical books, people from all faiths used to come to these Peers/Saints. My opinion is once these people so high in spiritual state reach one almighty god, religion concept goes away.

Well said Veerji. The lie that our Bhagats were Hindu+Muslim is spread by Hindutva and Mughals. These type of people claim Guru Nanak Dev Ji was a Hindu because of parents which is just ridiculous. These people deny that Bhai Mardana was Sikh. And they don't realise that Sufi's are regarded as Kaffirs by many Muslims. So Baba Farid Ji who only prayed to Allah but rejected Muhammad for his slavery of innocent human beings was clearly NOT a Muslim. Bhagat Namdev Ji and Bhagat Kabir Ji are totally denying that they are NOT Hindu but Hindutva tries to make up bs to take them out of Sikhi, which they can never do

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Moorakh, keep ignoring historical proof. Spend less time on internet and read a books or two before saying our Mahaan Bhagats were Hindus or Muslims (what a beadbi).

Maha Moorakh , how can calling our Mahaan Bhagats Hindus or Muslims be a beeadbi.

We are blessed to be the most unique religion in the universe which respects all other religions by not just giving lip service but by incorporating

the saying of saints of other religions in Sri Guru Granth Sahib.

Try opening your eyes and read the below.

No Islamic literature could dare to present the strongest contempt for those Muslims who do not offer Nimaz as said by Hazrat Baba Sheikh Farid in Shri Guru Granth Sahib. Hazrat (1175-1265) expired about two and a half-century before Shri Guru Nanak Sahib. Guru Sahib met his eleventh successor Hazrat Ibrahim Farid-I-Sani i.e., the 2nd Farid, collected and preserved his hymns. There is no trace of his hymns anywhere else. After about a hundred years it was included in Shri Guru Granth Sahib, when it was known as “Shri Aad Granth Sahib ”, otherwise this most valuable treasure would have been lost forever.

On page No.1381 it is inscribed that, “O Benimazi (prayer less) dog, this is not a proper way of life. You never come to the Mosque for five times prayers. Get up O Farid, wash your face, hands and legs, and offer the Nimaz in the morning. The head, which does not bow to the Sayeen (God), cut it off (own head) and remove that head. The head, which does not bow before the Sayeen, what is the use of such head? Burn it under the earthen pot in place of firewood”. I have quoted this verse as one example. Otherwise there are many more instructions for Muslims even by the Sikh Gurus to become a true Muslim in accordance with the basic tenet of the Quran in its true letter and spirit.

Shri Guru Granth Sahib is an inter-religious and multi-lingual Universal Scripture of mankind that preaches a Muslim to be a true Muslim and a Hindu to be a true Hindu. And for the Sikh to be above the discrimination of gender, caste, creed, religion, region, nation and breed, a true

- See more at: http://sikhspectrum.com/2008/07/shri-guru-granth-sahib-its-relevance-for-muslims/#sthash.ALyQuhWn.dpuf

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If they were Muslim or Hindu and achieved highest spiritual status then whats need to be Sikhs lol?

I don't care about internet links written by tom d*cks and harries like yourself, quote books by renowned authors.

You have failed to quote a single book and I have given you two books, one dating back to the 17th century and one written by a renowned scholar some time ago.

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