Maan Travels A Lot During Simran...

[jasdeepsingh2k125]

guru fateh sadh sangat ji

when daas tries to do simran his mind stars travelling a lot.. the moment daas sit to do simran random images tries to start popping up in daas mind sometimes random person,school,hazoor sahib,any shop or sometimes simran audio of dhariawale simran starts playing......what is it?... daas is not able to concentrate.....daas doesnt try to think something but these things are in some auto mode

[Sat1176]

I'm guessing your trying to do simran internally with the voice of the mind.

The technique I've have found the most beneficial in helping still the mind first is to put your dhiyaan into your voice just in front of your mouth. Lock in your ears into listening at that position as you say Waheguru. Then watch has your mind begins sit and listen. If it begins to wonder grab it and bring it back there and force it to listen. You will then become more aware when your mind wants to take flights and you will restrain it. With practice your mind will automatically get used to focusing and listening to the shabad. After it learns to sit still then lower the volume and make sure it still sits there. Eventually your dhiyaan will remain in your ears when your japping whether verbally or internally. The ears/mind will become super sensitive and trained that when ever jap is occurring it will automatically learn to sit and listen. Your anand will increase and then with Guru's grace your off.....

If you still find your mind is very active, then jap with your eyes open for a while but keep the focus on the sound of the jaap. If you keep the dhiyaan on the sound in front of lips/mouth you will find that as your mind becomes still the eyes will automatically close.

Hope it helps ji...

[jasdeepsingh2k125]

I'm guessing your trying to do simran internally with the voice of the mind.

yes veerji

[jasdeepsingh2k125]

I'm guessing your trying to do simran internally with the voice of the mind.

The technique I've have found the most beneficial in helping still the mind first is to put your dhiyaan into your voice just in front of your mouth. Lock in your ears into listening at that position as you say Waheguru. Then watch has your mind begins sit and listen. If it begins to wonder grab it and bring it back there and force it to listen. You will then become more aware when your mind wants to take flights and you will restrain it. With practice your mind will automatically get used to focusing and listening to the shabad. After it learns to sit still then lower the volume and make sure it still sits there. Eventually your dhiyaan will remain in your ears when your japping whether verbally or internally. The ears/mind will become super sensitive and trained that when ever jap is occurring it will automatically learn to sit and listen. Your anand will increase and then with Guru's grace your off.....

If you still find your mind is very active, then jap with your eyes open for a while but keep the focus on the sound of the jaap. If you keep the dhiyaan on the sound in front of lips/mouth you will find that as your mind becomes still the eyes will automatically close.

Hope it helps ji...

thanks veerji will try today..

[jasdeepsingh2k125]

I'm guessing your trying to do simran internally with the voice of the mind.

The technique I've have found the most beneficial in helping still the mind first is to put your dhiyaan into your voice just in front of your mouth. Lock in your ears into listening at that position as you say Waheguru. Then watch has your mind begins sit and listen. If it begins to wonder grab it and bring it back there and force it to listen. You will then become more aware when your mind wants to take flights and you will restrain it. With practice your mind will automatically get used to focusing and listening to the shabad. After it learns to sit still then lower the volume and make sure it still sits there. Eventually your dhiyaan will remain in your ears when your japping whether verbally or internally. The ears/mind will become super sensitive and trained that when ever jap is occurring it will automatically learn to sit and listen. Your anand will increase and then with Guru's grace your off.....

If you still find your mind is very active, then jap with your eyes open for a while but keep the focus on the sound of the jaap. If you keep the dhiyaan on the sound in front of lips/mouth you will find that as your mind becomes still the eyes will automatically close.

Hope it helps ji...

veerji while doing so is paining of forehead is common? plz enlighten daas

[SunSingh]

you're trying too hard to focus. just do it in a relaxed way and there won't be pain.

[Sat1176]

i'm guessing your straing your eyes by looking up at your forehead, or downward if focusing near mouth, with eyes closed. Just relax the eyes and close them and don't worry about looking in a particular direction, just slowly with love say waheguru and listen.

Your dhyan/focus ultimately should have been in the ears not eyes.

[navsangeet]

yea, veer Sat1176 ji gave u best way, its love....don't worry about focusing on the forehead or mechanical chanting....parmatma ji taan bhau de pyaase ne...bhau naal chete kareo te fark dekheo...

simran ohi hai jis vich ras ave..mann shant ho jave..don't worry if u don't see any light or any experience...sache mano ardas kareo oh aap hi chitt lva denge....

and check out this link too...bhut fark paveka...

[jasdeepsingh2k125]

yea, veer Sat1176 ji gave u best way, its love....don't worry about focusing on the forehead or mechanical chanting....parmatma ji taan bhau de pyaase ne...bhau naal chete kareo te fark dekheo...

simran ohi hai jis vich ras ave..mann shant ho jave..don't worry if u don't see any light or any experience...sache mano ardas kareo oh aap hi chitt lva denge....

and check out this link too...bhut fark paveka...

thanks...well listen :smile2:

[Sat1176]

Here Jasdeep read the following shabad by Guru Arjan Dev ji on ang 1006


Maaroo, Fifth Mehl, Sixth House, Du-Padas:
maaroo mehlaa 5 ghar 6 dupday

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:
ik-oNkaar satgur parsaad.

Abandon all your clever tricks; meet with the Holy, and renounce your egotistical pride.
chhod sagal si-aanpaa mil saaDh ti-aag gumaan.

Everything else is false; with your tongue, chant the Name of the Lord, Raam, Raam.
avar sabh kichh mithi-aa rasnaa raam raam vakhaan. ||1||

O my mind, with your ears, listen to the Name of the Lord.
mayray man karan sun har naam.

The sins of your many past lifetimes shall be washed away; then, what can the wretched Messenger of Death do to you? ||1||Pause||
miteh agh tayray janam janam kay kavan bapuro jaam. ||1|| rahaa-o.

Pain, poverty and fear shall not afflict you, and you shall find peace and pleasure.
dookh deen na bha-o bi-aapai milai sukh bisraam.

By Guru`s Grace, Nanak speaks; meditation on the Lord is the essence of spiritual wisdom.
gur parsaad naanak bakhaanai har bhajan tat gi-aan.

That is all you got to do, but still we find it very difficult. Keep practising throughout the day. Just say once then check did your mind completely hear it. If so do it again.. Its about quality first not quantity so relax, say it slowly with love. Eventually the mind like a trained dog, will the moment your ears hear the word Waheguru will listen attentively. You will be able to observe it that it kept quite and just stood still. When I first used to sit in sangat and do simran I could not even hear my own voice, I used to just sing along. My ears were not tuned to listening to what comes out of my own mouth. I used think gosh what’s wrong with me I can hear everyone else but not the sound coming out of my own mouth. With practise of saying it constantly throughout the day my mind/ears became adept at focusing on my own voice. Now no matter how loud the sangat get, my mind locks into my own voice. Then the anand increases and you begin to absorb into the shabad. The thoughts begin to decrease and all you can hear is the word WaheGuru nothing else. It becomes intoxicating. Then whenever you have a free minute, you will think to yourself let me fill those few minutes with waheguru jaap and be lost in the feeling again.

Hope that helps you ji..