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End The Pakhand Of So Called 'agan Bhet' Ceremony


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We are talking about both as agan bhet are being performed on both:

Anyway here is rough draft of petition. I ask my brothers to make grammatical correction for me if there is any so i can go ahead create a peaceful petition to create awareness among sikhs:

This petition is to create awareness against practice of "Agan Bhet of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, old gutkas, old sikh manuscripts'. Agan bhet is an ritual where old saroops are burned to ensure old saroop does not get further deteriorated and to ensure sanctity of old saroop However, according to very definition of sri guru granth sahib ji being " alive living guru" we feel literal process of burning sargun saroop of sri guru granth sahib ji alive defeats the very purpose of keeping sanctity and is on clash course with very definition of sri guru granth sahib ji being alive living guru. We ask sikhs to consider sri guru granth sahib ji as literal living guru/being and to ask themselves, if human being gets old, does their next of kin burn them alive? If answer is no, why should we hold such rules for our living guru/being sri guru granth sahib ji?
We also ask our Sikh leaders to create a Sikh heritage centers where old saroops can be preserved with utmost satkar than simply burning the saroops and destroying our own enrich heritage.
Lets all come forward and be united despite of our differences and stand against practice of agan bhet towards all sikh manuscripts/scriptures- gutkas, senchiya, saroop of sri guru granth sahib ji regardless if its laridvar or padched format, regardless if it has ragmalla or not regardless if its old or new with unfortunate occurrences.
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Wahegurujikakhalsawahegurujikifateh

This petition is to create awareness against the practice of "Agan Bhet" of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, old Gutka/Pothi Sahibs and Old Sikh Manuscripts. "Agan Bhet" is a ritual where old saroops are burnt to ensure according to some individuals that they don't deteriorate further and to uphold their sanctity.

Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj is Jaagdi jot - The Living Guru. We therefore feel that the act of burning alive Sargun Saroops of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj defeats the very purpose of upholding their sanctity and contradicts their very definition - Jaagdi jot.

We ask Sikhs to consider Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj sahib as the living Guru and to ask themselves - When a human being gets old do their sons and daughters burn them alive? If the answer is no then why do we want to burn our beloved Satguruji?

We also ask our Sikh leaders to create Sikh Heritage Centres where old saroops can be preserved with utmost satkar. The practise of burning saroops and destroying our own rich heritage has gone on for too long and must be stopped.

Let us all come forward and be united. Let us put down our own individual differences and stand united - hand in hand - against the practice of Agan Bhet towards all Sikh Scriptures - Gutka Sahibs, Pothi Sahibs, Senchiyas, and Saroops of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj regardless of whether it is in laridvar or padched format, regardless of whether it has Raagmala or not, and regardless of whether its old or new with unfortunate occurrences.

Wahegurujikakhalsawahegurujikifateh

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But what is being shown is not truthful representation.

Moreover there is a big difference between a manuscript and its copies. Copies when they age i find nothing wrong in consigning those to flames.

A lot of the manuscripts themselves are copies of original items. From copies we can gain valuable information about the original item as well as history, time period, events, state of affairs, etc.

We should have sikh hertiage center to preserve them..we have british library preserved many puratan manuscripts with utmost satkar... is state of panth has gone so low that we need to now get tips from british library how to perserve old saroops? really?

Veer Jee,

state of Panth is really grim and hanging on a thin thread.

Forget about the thought that we have gone so low that we need to get tips from british library to preserve old saroops.

We are so low, that we don't even want to get the tips and actually learn something and do something positive!!!

So just to get this clear, when exactly is it alright to do agan bhet for a birdh saroop, like when they have become really birdh, or are you suggesting that we somehow, as shown in the pics, try to maintain the sanctity and form of the saroop and also digitize them?

In my opinion,

99% of the Saroops which are put for 'agan bhet'...they shouldn't even be there.

And let us remember, it's not only Saroops/Birs which are put for 'agan bhet'. Many other literature/paper with Gurbani on it and related to Gurbani are put for 'agan bhet' as well.

The only time when Saroops, Birs, Senchis, Gutkas, Pothis, literature, documents, etc..should be put for 'agan bhet' ..is under the following circumstances:

(Note: All of these bullet-points should be fulfilled in order to allow 'agan bhet' to go forward. If any one of these bullet-points are not matching with the situation of the item...then 'agan bhet' should not take place whatsoever).

The following is regardless of padched or not, regardless of ragmala or not, regardless of kachi bani or not, regardless of Dasam Granth combined with Guru Granth Sahib Jee or not, regardless of decorated item or not, regardless of paintings in the item or not, regardless of Patshahi 10vi written before a few lines at the end of Guru Granth Sahib Jee or not, etc....

'Agan Bhet; is okay when.....

  • the item in question does not hold any historical significance or associated to any figure/person of historical importance
  • the item in question is not a manuscript or a copy of a manuscript
  • the item in question is not handwritten
  • the item in question is not from an older printing press/type-writer where copies may be very limited and scarce.
  • the item in question is from a modern printing press and a new copy is readily available
  • after ALL sincere attempts have been made to restore the item and still it is not in condition to be used on even an once-per-year basis
  • the item has been approved for 'agan bhet' by inspection from a 5-member Panth Parvaan expert panel consisting of Panth Parvaan historians/scholars.
  • the item has been approved for 'agan bhet' by Tyaar-Bar-Tyaar Jeevan Valey Panj Piaarey (not any random 5 guys getting together and dressing up and holding swords in their hands).

So that means that......for example......if a Saroop/Bir was printed by printing press 10 years ago....it's pages are all wet...many pages are torn and missing....the binding is practically non-existent....the outer cover is of no use.....etc..........then...in this example the Saroop/Bir should NOT be put for 'agan bhet'.

Also, there needs to be a proper process. There needs to be registration (contact information of previous 'owner' and history behind the item) that takes place and put into a database for every single person that comes forward with an item, whether it is approved for 'agan bhet' or not. Like Neo Jee said, there needs to be some sort of Sikh Heritage Centre where all of this takes place and as well as the restoration and storage/display occurs as well.

We as a Panth need to get our act together. Our literature/history has been burned away in the past 100+ years..and is still happening before our eyes.

Our so-called Panthic institutions are giving permission to un-verified individuals...and who knows what damage they possibly have done behind our backs.

We all know about how Dilgeer had open access to Sikh Reference Library and how he ended up....

It takes time, patience and virtues to restore items and have a properly organized and sophisticated process/institution in place.....but it is worth it for Guru Granth Sahib Jee....for Sikh history...for Sikh survival.

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For those who want to learn how to preserve and Repair pothi sahibs, maharaj sarups, a new organisation has been setup in the UK; 'Pothi Seva'. Currently continous ongoing seva of pothi sahibs and 4-5 workshops have been organised around UK.

http://pothiseva.org.uk/

https://www.facebook.com/PothiSeva

Pothi Seva is a non-profit organisation that is committed to repairing, restoring and keeping the satkaar of the physical form of Gurbani in the form of Gutka Sahibs, Pothi Sahibs and Saroops of Aad Guru Granth Sahib Jee.

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