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Totally agreed on prayer and guru's ji grace are the must. However, If we don't do when gurbani in various compositions tell us to do, regarding thoughts, understanding nature of mind with bibek buddhi then in my opinion one is simply copping out, taking easy way out by justifying they are doing one bit just prayer and ardas and feel don't have to do anything with controlling thoughts in mind ( i did that for years before )- everything takes birth from thoughts, thoughts are first concepted in mind, and turned into desire, desire turn into actions,action turn in to karam good or bad.

No one is saying its easy, biggest dharam yudh or jung or biggest battle of man kind is jung of mind, to having control over mind.. to have control of mind is like making strongest enemy/opposition to eat "lohai da chanaie", off course without full grace of guru is not possible. But first portion of grace from guru maharaj is already given to us in form of bibek buddhi and good attributes (dya, sat , santokh, gyan, prem), we all got good attributes, to discriminate good from bad to analyze, to do self inquiry...its a different matter if one has not invoke it or not aware of it, but first portion of guru's grace its there already within, take sahara of that and keep doing ardas along the way..as i said its not easy- i m nowhere near it, struggling with thoughts as well, but ardas/guru maharaj grace, self inquiry and those tips are helping.

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Hello veer ji...

From medical point of view its not masturbation but the guilt of it is disturbing.............it imposes a psychic effect..

Both men and women encounter d same desires, n masturbation is an usual solution to a very common problem, overdoing it enhances your guilt and degrades your health and self esteem, as gyani maskeen ji said:- its nt bad to have bad thoughts bt remaining entraped in 5 vices is bad,,

whenever u get such thoughts , try to return to normal i.e divinity ASAP,

OVEREMPHASISING THIS PROBLEM IS NOT ITS SOLUTION,,, BT LET IT GO ASAP,,

dont regret cause our guru ji would never wanted us to....

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It's very simple, even from a Sikh point of view.

1. Get Married :p . There is no limit on sexual interaction as long as its with your husband/wife.

2. Get some hobbies and do sports, keep yourself busy. The more enjoyable activities you have filling your life, the less you'll feel inclined towards lust (you just won't care anymore). Exercise in particular releases 'feel good' hormones.

3. Masturbate, and take full control of your body. Your body has a built-in natural ability to make itself happy through masturbation, which releases 'feel good' hormones. Eating food and sleeping also releases these pleasure hormones (so some people get addicted to eating and become obese). You could very well argue... why do you even need a sexual partner when you can do it yourself? The answer would obviously be companionship and children.

There is nothing in Sikhism against masturbation that I know of. This is not Islam, where boys and girls need circumcisions to destroy sexual pleasure forever, where women need to be covered in a big black sheet so we don't instantly want to rape them.

In Sikhism, you are EXPECTED to be able to control yourself. If masturbating means you're taking full command of your own hormones and can take your mind off sex for other things, I personally don't see what's wrong with it.

Sure masturbation may not be a very saintly act, but Sikhism is also all about finding true happiness without needing to bother with things that are ACTUALLY LEGITIMATELY HARMFUL and can ruin your life (like alcohol, tobacco and multiple partners).

That said, some people choose to reject any form of sexual activity (this is called 'NO FAP' on bodybuilding and other forums) and feel far more focused and productive with their lives. You could try that.

Also PORN is PROVEN to be bad for you. It mainly leads to a very corrupted view of sex (porn is all fake of course) that can seriously damage self-esteem and future relationships. It can lead to depression, porn addiction, desensitization and because of that apparently even temporary erectile dysfunction in extreme cases. Also lots of wasted time, that part is inevitable.

So yeah... I wouldn't recommend that even if I wasn't on a Sikh forum :p , but I felt it had to be covered if there actually ARE any impressionable teens reading this. You aren't missing anything.

These are just my opinions of course, no offense intended. I'm sure more religious people are gonna outright say ignore lust and forget you even have genitals :p .

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Totally agreed on prayer and guru's ji grace are the must. However, If we don't do when gurbani in various compositions tell us to do, regarding thoughts, understanding nature of mind with bibek buddhi then in my opinion one is simply copping out, taking easy way out by justifying they are doing one bit just prayer and ardas and feel don't have to do anything with controlling thoughts in mind ( i did that for years before )- everything takes birth from thoughts, thoughts are first concepted in mind, and turned into desire, desire turn into actions,action turn in to karam good or bad.

No one is saying its easy, biggest dharam yudh or jung or biggest battle of man kind is jung of mind, to having control over mind.. to have control of mind is like making strongest enemy/opposition to eat "lohai da chanaie", off course without full grace of guru is not possible. But first portion of grace from guru maharaj is already given to us in form of bibek buddhi and good attributes (dya, sat , santokh, gyan, prem), we all got good attributes, to discriminate good from bad to analyze, to do self inquiry...its a different matter if one has not invoke it or not aware of it, but first portion of guru's grace its there already within, take sahara of that and keep doing ardas along the way..as i said its not easy- i m nowhere near it, struggling with thoughts as well, but ardas/guru maharaj grace, self inquiry and those tips are helping.

Prayer and following Gurbani are the same thing, no point reciting prayers if you are not going to try and live according to the messages contained in them. I thought that was obvious, maybe not, if you just prayed and did not try to follow the message then there is no point.

As for controlling ones thoughts

try as hard as you like, but no way without Guru's grace, man can not silence his mind without true Gurus grace SGGS ji, and grace is obtained by following Gurus Hukam , but sadly we dont and that is the reason veerji, it is difficult agreed , but what else can we do but beg at his door ?

chupai chup na hova-ee jay laa-ay rahaa liv taar.

By remaining silent, inner silence is not obtained.

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chupai chup na hova-ee jay laa-ay rahaa liv taar.
By remaining silent, inner silence is not obtained.
No one is suggested to remain silent outwardly that would be pakhand same type pakhand which people who follow sikhi outwardly only not inside..sikhi is two way street- student making efforts via naam jaap/self inquiry etc.
Grace is not obtained if other person is not following gurbani message in their life where it repeatedly talks about controlling mind (man jita jag jitae, man tu jot saroop hai apna mool paichain || etc), thoughts and its two way street..!!..I don't know what you define as hakum? I define following hakum as following gurbani message/maryada both outwardly and inwardly.
This also reminds of very famous sakhi of person praying to god when there is severe flooding for god to appear to save him in doing so he ignored helicopter rescue operation then he received voice in the sky, o premi, i did send a helicopter to rescue but you ignored. Sometimes we see what we want to see and nothing else..!!
First portion of grace is already there (being born in sikh family, having sangat, having bibek buddhi etc) but we humans choose to ignore it..we expect big miracle things to happen but yet make little inner efforts to achieve it..!!
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No one is suggested to remain silent outwardly that would be pakhand same type pakhand which people who follow sikhi outwardly only not inside..sikhi is two way street- student making efforts via naam jaap/self inquiry etc.
Grace is not obtained if other person is not following gurbani message in their life where it repeatedly talks about controlling mind (man jita jag jitae, man tu jot saroop hai apna mool paichain || etc), thoughts and its two way street..!!..I don't know what you define as hakum? I define following hakum as following gurbani message/maryada both outwardly and innerwardly.
This also reminds of very famous sakhi of person praying to god when there is severe flooding for god to appear to save him in doing so he ignored helicopter rescue operation then he received voice in the sky, o premi, i did send a helicopter to rescue but you ignored. Sometimes we see what we want to see and nothing else..!!
First portion of grace is already there (being born in sikh family, having sangat, having bibek buddhi etc) but we humans choose to ignore it..we expect big miracle things to happen but yet made little inner efforts to achieve it..!!

You are saying exactly the same as me, but you are trying to score points as usual,and show everyone how much knowledge you have ,maybe thats where you are going wrong ?

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You are saying exactly the same as me, but you are trying to score points as usual,and show everyone how much knowledge you are,maybe thats where you are going wrong ?

Nope message is obviously more important than messenger..whatever i m sharing its by guru maharaj kirpa sant mahapursha di kirpa otherwise i m nothing..but you choose to concentrate on messenger than message and may be thats why i don't know? would you rather prefer i change my screen name to unknown/no one..i could that as well..anything for brothers to concentrate on message than messenger...!!

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Nope message is obviously more important than messenger..whatever i m sharing its by guru maharaj kirpa sant mahapursha di kirpa otherwise i m nothing..but you choose to concentrate on messenger than message and may be thats why i don't know? would you rather prefer i change my screen name to unknown/no one..i could that as well..anything for brothers to concentrate on message than messenger...!!

ik fireh ghanayray karahi galaa galee kinai na paa-i-aa.

Some wander around, babbling on and on, but none obtain Him by babbling.

Gala nal kuch nahi ban nah.

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