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An article posted/discussed in an American military forum filled with retired American military service personel..

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Global War on Terror and West's relation to Islam in context of Islam's standing as an ideological force in 21st century...

Well, Islam is probably the strongest ideological force humankind has ever seen. Islam is not like any other religion. Islam is a VERY , VERY strong and complete ideological framework that has religious , political , social , economic , spiritual , military ,and legalistic aspects to it. History of mankind has NEVER seen such a solid and consistent ideology. Whereever Islam went , it ingrained itself in the soil of that land (the only exception is Spain where Muslims ruled 800 years but then driven back. Balkans were just under Turkish rule but never had any significant Muslim presence or cultural influence). Graham E. Fuller in his book , "A world without Islam" , writes that Islam has got great vitality and it is culturally, economically and socially very strong. People used to "mentally-m*sterbate" that Islam thrives in poorer countries etc but in the last century , this myth has been practically debunked now. Countries like Turkey , Malaysia , Indonesia , Saudi Arabia , Qatar , Kuwait etc etc are very rich and prosperous (and Western in case of Turkey) but yet , Islam not only survive but it THRIVES in these lands. Unlike Christianity , which is a dead religion now in the West, Islam is a very influential religion. Wherever it exists , its followers practice it. Even the Muslim communities in the Western world take Islam seriously and practice and live by their faith.

Islam "self-grow" itself by Islamic finance. Islamic banking is now over a trillion dollar industry and growing. Islamic halal industry is worth $2.5 trillion and growing. Islam practically holds a HUGE chunk of geographic area (~ 30,000,000 sq. kilometers) and has significant presence in Western China , India , Russia , Europe etc .Islam is literally present in EVERY SINGLE NATION ON EARTH!. Now Islam is moving to the "New World" for the first time. Islam also has one of the largest, most comprehensive law-code in the history of mankind. ~ 1.8-2.2 billion people all around the world get influenced by Islamic Shari'ah (directly or indirectly) in one way or the other.


Islam presents itself as a "total" ideology covering all aspects of life, it gives it's followers a sense of a shared culture and brotherhood, and a sense of emptiness to those who begin to doubt it.Islam legislates almost EVERYTHING of a human being. It controls them completely. From food to sex ...from marriage to divorce..from personal cleanness to manners of using toilet etc. Islam plays role in everything and this make its followers to start recognizing with Islam. Islam just ingrains itself in the mind of follower and even if a follower leave Islam , he/she won't come out of it for ever! (I know many such people who still wear Hijabs , don't eat pork or drink etc just because they WERE Muslims. Now it has become a part of them).


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Also , Islam has a VERY strong culture. Muslim girls would not date a "non-Muslim" guy and their first preference will always be to look for a "Muslim" boy (experience from high school/college lol). Even if Muslim girls have sex , kissing , dating etc with "non-Muslim" guys , they will very rarely marry them. They always marry within their community and produce their offsprings under the strong Islamic umbrella. woot.gif (Why is he talking about this? lol.gif)

All these facts make Islam , I think , THE STRONGEST religion/ideology on the planet. It just doesn't go down. French ripped their ****s off to convert Algerians but after hundred years of colonialism , 99.3% of Algerians were still Muslims. . All this show that , as Karen Armstrong put it , Islam just went stronger , stronger , stronger and stronger from the day Muhammad started it.

Also , about 60% -70% of Muslims worldwide are people who are "young" and hence they'll be getting into their "productive age" and will be reproducing in coming years. Which means ...surprise...Islam will grow even larger! Above that , Islam is a self-perpetuating ideology that starts growing when it goes to a new place. Islam conquered many nations , and instead of despising it , those nations started spreading Islam even further!!!!

Today, Islam is only expanding ...politically (Arab Spring) , culturally , economically , religiously , legally, militarily etc etc and it looks unstoppable ...just like it has been over the centuries!!!!


Now many people (both in the West and Muslim world) see the ongoing Global War on Terror as a conflict between "West vs Islam". I think that in order to win this war, West must dispel this message. Radical Islam (Terrorist Muslims in other words) make up just about 0.00093% of total Islam. So, we must make that distinction first. Many Muslims are conservative, anti-West , and what not--but they are "good people" in a sense that they would NEVER kill any Westerner or would harm any Western interests. The "radicals" who actively fight Westerners etc are less than 1% of total Muslim population.So the message from our leaders must be clear. We are not here to take on Islam. We are here to take on radicals that harm Muslims more than anybody else.

United States must actively work to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. This is the biggest 'issue' between West and Muslim world. We can not neglect this. We must not neglect this. Islam is a global phenomenon--Even if 3% of Islam gets radical or become 'out of control' , this world would slip into utter chaos and global economy would fell like a pack of cards.

How you do think we can win war on terror? Remember, it can't be won by using conventional force alone. Radical Islam employs advance Asymmetric Warfare Mode. Force alone will actually accelerate our defeat in this war. If 0.00093% radical Islam can cause THIS much trouble, I can't imagine what it would be if, God forbid, even 3% of Islam becomes "actively radical against West" ...This would lead a major global war. This war might end in American military victory but will harm our interests. Muslims have nothing to lose here, but we have everything to lose.

So how should we deal with the situation?

I think we must support moderate forces in Islamic World. We must heavily support science and technology in the Muslim world. Education, economic build-up , and political stability are other factors too. We must also dispel this perception that we interfere in Islamic Countries and we oppress the Muslims. We must promote democracy in the Muslim world, even if it brings Muslim Brotherhood in the power (Which aren't radical terrorists as some fox news pundits might want us to believe). Over-all, United States is here to stay..Islamic World is here to stay...We must learn to live together with mutual respect and co-operation.

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This article makes sense over-all, keeping in mind that it is coming from "Americans"..Atleast this dude does a bit better job than Faux News 'experts' of "Islam"...

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I got this article from the above source. This piece was originally posted in an American military forum from where someone posted it in above forum. All the color schemes, highlighting are same (with one change) as it was in the source where I copied it from. I thought that it would be interesting to get the opinion of members here on this piece. Do you agree with the article? Disagree? Agree with some points while disagree with others? What you found interesting? Give your open opinion of the article..specially I would like members like Mehtab ji and Johny101 veer to comment here.....

So what do you think? Does his description of Islam close to what you think? How is he wrong/right? ...

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Islam is like a skyscaper built on foundations of sand. It looks big and mighty to Muslims dreaming of world domination now.

But when Allah (swt) decides he has had enough of Islam associating its Arabic Empire with Allah's great name it will topple in a flash.

Islam's success was built off the back of murder, rape, slavery, pedophilia, discrimination and conversion by the sword. That worked really well up till now but now the more good+innocent Muslims get educated on what is written in the Quran (supposedly by God but actually by Prophet Muhammad) the more educated decent Muslims themselves will reject Islam as a man-made religion invented by an Arab man in Mecca 14 centuries ago and suitable for that time and place only but with no relavance to the modern world. The day that Muslims become a minority in Muslim countries will definitely happen just like it did in Europe and when that day comes the world will be a whole lot more peaceful place.

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All of a sudden everthings quite after this fool has a whinge about anti-Islamic sentiments on this forum then he farts and opens the can of worms himself. Maybe he made the same post on the forum he claims he got it from. Sounds like his dream, humanity's nightmare. Another indolent Islamic retard with a self-doubting mentality trying to make himself accept the truth while reiterating it to others.

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To phrase Pakistani Punjabi "So what do you think? Does his description of Islam close to what you think? How is he wrong/right? ..."

Son if we answered you, you would seriously give us a lecture on how humanitarian the servants of Allah are although we can all see the infidel-non infidel aphroisms running high. I am sure this <banned word filter activated> is connected to Abu Adeeba the guy who spews lies out of his rear end trying to justify a 7th century primitive model for the world whilst using a 21st century tool to spread Al-Taqieya.

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