2013 : West, Islam, And Rest Of World...islam As An Ideological Force And Global War On Terror

[TandooriSingh]

Again, all the crying babies moaning their own inferiority have not quoted the OP and dissected it. lol..Again, "what" exactly is so horrendous about OP that has extracted such reaction out of poor champs here?

COME IN PAKISTANTIPUNJABI01!!

CAN YOU READ ME? OVER!

WHY ARE YOU AFRAID OF ME?

Dude...

'article posted/discussed in an American military forum filled with retired American military service personel..'

What are we meant to assume aside from that you want us to BELIEVE AN AMERICAN EX-SOLDIER wrote it? WHERE is the original link? Are you 5 years old or something? Why can't you provide a simple link? One that ISN'T your favourite forum 'www.defence.pk'?

We already told you.

It's nothing but a worthless piece of Islamic propaganda, the author of whom has CLEARLY spent too long at a Shisha bar and completely lost his mind. It's nothing but wishful fantasy and opinion, and says little more than ISLAM IS REALLY REALLY BIG AND YOU SHOULD BE REALLY SCARED!!!

We all agree Islam is big, but the OP is so ridiculously positive that it's just HILARIOUS!

I'm surprised it doesn't say that if you scream GOD IS GREAT enough times you'll be able to fly .

I and other posters have ALREADY explained MANY times over why your OP is ridiculous, we've laid points out beautifully to make it easy for you. We're being completely fair and honest about this and with you.

But...

You won't refute MY post, you won't refute ANYONES posts! How are we supposed to have a debate if you don't even reply properly? You won't accept anything negative, you just ignore it. Now you've stooped so low you're just calling people Islamophobes because they (like me) know more about the Koran than you do

You're being a child and you're just trolling at this point... If you can't add anything interesting to the forum then why are you here?

Seriously my Sikh brothers, if THIS is the best the Muslim world has to offer in terms of debate. I don't know why we thought we ever had anything to worry about...

[PakistaniPunjabi01]

France had some islamic population early on when people of North africa colonies especially alegrian migrated.Mislim mind set was dreaming in 1990s to take over France by population explosion. But nothing happened.

These fundamentalist fringe should stop carrying on their dirty propganda and bring bad name to their religion.

Source?

Lying isn't allowed in this forum as per mods.

Give credible source that general Muslim population was thinking like that?

[isingh1699]

An article posted/discussed in an American military forum filled with retired American military service personel..

1st paragraph ... of course a man-made cult which brainwashes innocent Muslims that it is from God is ideologically strong at keeping believers mentally trapped within it. Hence the need for Prophet Muhammad to order death as the punishment for those leaving Islam.

2nd paragraph ... it's true that the apartheid of the Ummah concept results in ghetto Islamic industries in which outsiders are excluded such as halal meat etc

3rd paragraph ... it's true Muhammad offered his opinion and shared his lifestyle with Arabs on everything from sex with children, sex with slavegirls, selling human beings for profit, which direction to defecate in and with which hand to wipe one's rear etc

4th paragraph ... Muslim women are only kept away from kaffirs through the fear of honor killings. Even that doesn't hold back a brave and ever growing percentage of innocent women born to Muslim parents who have the courage to leave Islam and marry outside of the Muslim community. Most Muslim women in the Diaspora actually know that non-Muslim males will offer them a better life with greater equality and free them from the Quran's blatant anti-female sexism ... so once Islam's stranglehold of fear upon innocent women born to Muslim parents and forced to stay in the cult weakens, then the floodgates will open for Muslim women to openly leave the man-made religion of Islam.

5th paragraph ... true that the desire for world domination by Muslims will result in higher birth rates and higher population growth in the short term ... but longer term Muslims will always be a global minority and as Islam implodes from within with growing realisation about the kind of man Prophet Muhammad was, long term it's skycraper of falsehood against Allah (swt) will collapse.

6th paragraph ... nobody has anything against innocent Muslims ... but aggressive Muslims who truly believe in the ideology of Muhammad need to be tackled and the method employed by the West to do that is by emphasising that terrorists are a small minority within the global Muslim population and ignoring the significant percentage of hundreds of millions of Muslim males from all over the Muslim world including Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Pakistan, Iraq etc who strongly sympathise with the terrorists whilst outwardly claiming Islam to be a religion of peace (for the purpose of "al-taqiyya" = false propaganda)

7th paragraph ... Yes it's lucky that only a small minority of Muslims truly believe in Islam fully and yes if even 1% of Muslims started mobilising towards terrorism in the way that Prophet Muhammad demonstrated that would prevent a formidable challenge to the World's peaceful existence, which could lead to nuclear bombs being dropped on Mecca and Medina etc.

8th paragraph ... The solution is not propping up Islamist regimes with financial aid but educating Muslims about what the Quran itself says and educating Muslims about how Muhammad is the author of the Quran and exposing the evil lifestyle which he practised in which slavery, pedophilia, rape, murder, discrimination all flourished via his direction.

Conclusion: Liberating good Muslims from Muhammad's cult is the solution that will lead to a more peaceful world.

[isingh1699]

I cut out parts that are against forum rules. Show some restraint you just got off QC.

Ok Mod Veerji will try to do that. I trust your judgement. Please be wary that he is trying to censor valid criticism of Islam by saying MODS are unfair to him.

And please don't let him cry discrimination when we Sikhs do not hate Muslims but only disagree with the ideology that condones terrorism, slavery etc.

[13Mirch]

Who has the real inferiority complex? Posting stuff typed up by a Muslim as an "american soldier"...

The inferiority complex is glaring.

Watch out hes implying us all to be inferiority stricken babies. Might breastfeed us some fanaticism.

1st paragraph ... of course a man-made cult which brainwashes innocent Muslims that it is from God is ideologically strong at keeping believers mentally trapped within it. Hence the need for Prophet Muhammad to order death as the punishment for those leaving Islam.

2nd paragraph ... it's true that the apartheid of the Ummah concept results in ghetto Islamic industries in which outsiders are excluded such as halal meat etc

3rd paragraph ... it's true Muhammad offered his opinion and shared his lifestyle with Arabs on everything from sex with children, sex with slavegirls, selling human beings for profit, which direction to defecate in and with which hand to wipe one's rear etc

4th paragraph ... Muslim women are only kept away from kaffirs through the fear of honor killings. Even that doesn't hold back a brave and ever growing percentage of innocent women born to Muslim parents who have the courage to leave Islam and marry outside of the Muslim community. Most Muslim women in the Diaspora actually know that non-Muslim males will offer them a better life with greater equality and free them from the Quran's blatant anti-female sexism ... so once Islam's stranglehold of fear upon innocent women born to Muslim parents and forced to stay in the cult weakens, then the floodgates will open for Muslim women to openly leave the man-made religion of Islam.

5th paragraph ... true that the desire for world domination by Muslims will result in higher birth rates and higher population growth in the short term ... but longer term Muslims will always be a global minority and as Islam implodes from within with growing realisation about the kind of man Prophet Muhammad was, long term it's skycraper of falsehood against Allah (swt) will collapse.

6th paragraph ... nobody has anything against innocent Muslims ... but aggressive Muslims who truly believe in the ideology of Muhammad need to be tackled and the best to do that is by emphasising that terrorists are a small minority within the global Muslim population and ignoring the significant percentage of Muslim males from Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Pakistan etc who strongly sympathise with the terrorists whilst outwardly claiming Islam to be a religion of peace (for the purpose of "al-taqiyya" = false propaganda)

7th paragraph ... Yes it's lucky that only a small minority of Muslims truly believe in Islam fully and yes if even 1% of Muslims started mobilising towards terrorism in the way that Prophet Muhammad demonstrated that would prevent a formidable challenge to the World's peaceful existence, which could lead to nuclear bombs being dropped on Mecca and Medina etc.

8th paragraph ... The solution is not propping up Islamist regimes with financial aid but educating Muslims about what the Quran itself says and educating Muslims about how Muhammad is the author of the Quran and exposing the evil lifestyle which he practised in which slavery, pedophilia, rape, murder, discrimination all flourished via his direction.

Conclusion: Liberating good Muslims from Muhammad's cult is the solution that will lead to a more peaceful world.

Read Ibn Warraq's book. Easy to digest provides rationality to brainwashed individuals who tout "praise be upon Allah and his prophet."

[isingh1699]

Seriously my Sikh brothers, if THIS is the best the Muslim world has to offer in terms of debate. I don't know why we thought we ever had anything to worry about...

That's the thing bro. There is no ideological comparison between Islam and Sikhi. Islam is for the benefit of Arabs from Mecca and Saudi Arabia. Sikhi is for the benefit of ALL mankind. PakistaniPunjabi can't even retort that Sikhi is for the benefit of Punjabi's as the majority of Punjabi's are actually Muslims!! There is no comparison between where Prophet Muhammad stood morally and where Guru Nanak Dev Ji stood morally. Muhammad owned slaves and the Quran emphasises that a slave is not equal to his master whilst Guru Sahib created the Khalsa Panth as the embodiment of what the equality of all mankind truly means. In terms of truth we all know with which ideology that exists. This debate is purely political now. The Arabs wish to dominate the world. We as a minority who want freedom for all mankind oppose them and need to unite amongst ourselves to fight for the benefit of all humanity. The less Muslims (via peaceful education) who oppose us in that mission the better. The more non-Sikhs who join with the Sikh Panth's battle to ensure a world of peace and tranquility for all humankind the better.

Insha'Allah brother PakistaniPunjabi might join us in that mission one day (as this debate is not personal).

[13Mirch]

If they spent as much time condemning their brethren in the media, rather than weeping on forums maybe they could make some headway on the social spectrum.

[PakistaniPunjabi01]

If they spent as much time condemning their brethren in the media, rather than weeping on forums maybe they could make some headway on the social spectrum.

We do condemn terrorism on media ...

Btw, if you haven't noticed, status quo in the West suits us...globally, world is going multipolar which again serves the interest of global Islam Inshallah..So why do you think we need to make extra effort to change something, when everything is going OUR way as we speak..Mashallah

[isingh1699]

HAHAHA very funny!!!!!!!

Btw, if you haven't noticed, status quo in the West suits us... serves the interest of global Islam Inshallah..

So why do you think we need to make extra effort to change something, when everything is going OUR way as we speak ..Mashallah

How wonderful that Muhammad's divine plan for Arabic rule over the planet are coming to fruition in your dreams!!

LOL

[13Mirch]

How wonderful that Muhammad's divine plan for Arabic rule over the planet are coming to fruition in your dreams!!

LOL

Just before he was whinging about the nationalistic agenda behind the battle of Balakot. And now he firs back 'we are not Sikhs." No ur not if u were then maybe things would have been different for the extremist infested hellhole which the Islamic prism has evolved into.