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I personally think a lot of members here under estimate Islam to a great degree. It is a powerful force since it started 1400 years ago. It dominated the world politically, culturally, militarily, economically. Where ever it went, the most ancient and powerful civilizations were not able to stand against it. Christian Egypt, North Africa, Middle east, Zoroastrian Iran, Central Asia and Buddhism in Afghanistan and in parts of Central Asia all crumbled after Islam began to rule over their territories. In India too Islam ruled for 1000 years with an Iron hand. But to the credit of India, it is the only land in the world where Islam was not able to dominate over the Indigenous religions. Despite overwhelming odds and great struggle, Sikhs in Punjab and Marathas in Dekhan are the only powers in the world who were able to defeat Islam militarily and reclaim their lands. This was a time when wars were still fought based on physical strength.

Political Islam in India had almost extinguished by mid 18th century. Shah Wali Ullah had made great efforts to save political Islam and for this task he requested Ahmad Shah Abdali to invade India to crush to the military power of the Marathas and Hindu Jats. In the 3rd battle of Panipat, all the Muslim chiefs of North India including the powerful Rohillas rallied around Abdali while the Hindus did not stand with Marathas(due to the fact that Marathas were exploiting Hindus as much as Muslims). The Muslims won at Panipat. But this victory was short lived. Within ten years of this victory Marathas began to re assert themselves and Sikhs had by then also dominated North India. Had the British not intervened and saved Islam in South Asia, today Sikhism would have dominated Pakistan and North India while Marathas would have reclaimed the rest of India for their religion.

When the British took over India by the 19th century, Sikhs were the only independent political power in South Asia. The Muslims under a fanatic named Syad Ahmad Barelvi and his companion Shah Ismail (Grandson of Shah Wali Ullah) had tried to re assert the political power of Islam. For this task Syad Ahmad Barelvi had gathered thousands of Pathan Jihadis around him in N W Frontier who called him Amir Ul Monineen. For a while they tasted success, but they were badly crushed by the Sikhs in the battle of Balakot.

In South Asia today political Islam is now represented by Pakistan. Hindus have the political power over India. Sikhs have been the biggest losers politically of the three since the departure of the British. But Guru Jee will also bless us with Raaj one day as we had in the past.

The battle of Balakot was nothing more than starry-eyed optimism and an ignorance of military rationality. It relied heavily on chance. Ahmad heavily relied on "Allah" to do the planning and saw himself as a sword wielder. His own strategy backfired on him due to it's fundamnetal basis being located in nothing more than sheer stupidness and tomfoolery.

Inspired by extremism and an answer to the decadent policies of the virtually extinct mughal empire, the battle was the first jihad launched via the <Edited> ideology. It aimed to usher Punjab into an Islamic past which would rival the golden age of the mughal state. Lead by a fanatical individual it aimed to eradicate the Sikh empire, expand the new state's border to connect with British India and ultimately birth an extensively powerful Islamic state. Plans which were paid put by the Khalsa forces. The battle was the brainchild of Syed Ahmed, a deeply religious Islamic individual who has been awarded the honor of being the first indigenous Jihadi of the Indian sub-continent. He was born in Rai Breli in 1786 A.D., a time when the mughal state's funeral bells were pealing with ever greater pitch. The Maratha confederacy had turned on their Mughal masters and had succeeded in establishing an independent domain of sorts, despite being severely mauled by the ferocious Afghanis. The Sikhs had succeeded in liberating major portions of Punjab and planting the seeds of a powerful and Alexandrian empire, whilst a major portion of the sub-continent was divided among various warlords, generals and princes.

Syed Ahmed easily garnered the factor that attacking the British, who were a rising power, would earn him no territorial merit. It would only invoke the latter's wrath upon him and crush his campaign. The Marathas despite being severely weakened by their engagements with the Afghanis, Sikhs and the British still presented a murderous front to any potential invader. This only left the Sikh empire, an isolated but extensively impregnable domain ruled over by Maharajah Ranjit Singh. An awe-inspiring Napoleonic figure in his own right. Ahmed based his assumptions on the Afghani intolerance of the Sikh infidels. He unwittingly assumed that the Afghani polity would aide him in crushing the infidel and liberating what he saw as being an oppressed populace. With these potential factors as his basis, Ahmed left his family and with total faith in Allah traversed towards Peshawar. His journey was arduous and extensively bone breaking. He took a route via Sindh, Quetta, Qandhar and Kabul, and arrived heavily exhausted in Peshawar where he outlined his plan to the various regional warlords and warrior populace. An extensive number of these individuals had prior to Ahmed's arrival, crossed steel with the Khalsa forces and were heavily disillusioned by his ineptness and heavy reliance on fate amalgamated with luck. After depicting their ridicule of his planned campaign they left him, yet despite this failure, on Ahmed's part, he still managed to raise a detachment of Mujhaideen warriors who being hot-blooded and head strong readily agreed to attack Sikh domains. Led by Ahmed they succeeded in attacking a few Sikh territories but were mostly beaten back, which subsequently lowered their morale and provoked no reaction from the Khalsa border forces.

Ahmed on seeing this and after conferencing with his accomplices, including Shah Ismail the grandson of Shah Waliulah of Delhi, decided on a new course of action. He adopted a nomadic agenda and continually traveled from one province frontier to it's neighbor until ultimately he set foot in Balakot in 1831 A.D. Foregoing all militaristic and rational notions, Ahmed's strategy was to engage the Sikh in the mountains of Balakot, annihilate them and conquer neighboring Kashmir; another extended domain of Ranjit Singh's regional fiefdom.

“I am in the mountains of Pakhli (name of the area). The people here have welcomed us with warmth and hospitality and have given us a place to stay. They have also promised to support us in the jihad. For the time being, I am camped in the town of Balakot, which is located in the (river) Kunhar pass. The army of the infidels [kuffars] is camped not too far from us. Since Balakot is located at a secure place (surrounded by hills and bounded by the river), God willing, the infidels will not be able to reach us. Of course, we may choose to advance and enter into a battle at our own initiative. And this we intend to do in the next two or three days. With the help of God, we will be victorious. If we win this battle, and, God willing, we will, then we will occupy all the land alongside the Jehlum River including the Kingdom of Kashmir. Please pray, day and night, for our victory.”

-Syed Ahmad's letter to an accomplice.

Hari Singh Nalwa, the lion-shredder, was the viceroy and commander-in-chief of the Punjab territories encircling Balakot. An intelligent and fearsome general Hari Singh commanded his main captain Sher Singh to encircle Balakot and move a battalion of the Khalsa forces to Muzaffarabad. A few companies also surrounded Mitti Kot, the mountainous terrain encircling Ahmed's forces. Ahmed after surveying the battlefield had it flooded to encumber the attacking Khalsa forces. Headlong he fell into the elaborate trap planned by his foes, the Khalsa nerve-center had easily maneuvered it's foe into the very position the latter had wanted to encumber the Khalsa in. On the days catalyzing in commencement of the battle a mujhaideen foolishly charged the Khalsa companies keeping him under surveillance. He became encumbered by the very mud which Ahmed had planned to annihilate the Khalsa opposition in. Khalsa snipers soon finished him off via their bullets.

Realizing that his elaborate trap had been exposed, with the crack of dawn Ahmed ordered a headlong charge into the Khalsa forces. Discarding all caution the mujhaideen vainly charged the joyous Khalsa who readily clashed with it. Amongst cries of Allah, and Waheguru a bloody slaughter commenced in which the mujhaideen were rapidly dispatched to their resting regions. It is believed that 1300 mujhaideen blindly lost their lives that fateful day, with the Khalsa receiving only a few casualties. The first indigenous sub-continental jihad met it's demise in a bloody fashion.

http://tisarpanth.blogspot.co.nz/2013/06/the-battle-of-balakot.html

It was ironically (for the Islamists) similar to the debacle caused by their extremism during the raaj, specifically when they passed an indigenous resolution to decry and ban 'jhatka.' They were fittingly answered by Jhabbar and his crew.

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We have seen islamic rule in India.The worst period of Indian history and the most barbaric regime where they wanted to convert others by force. Do not you know that

One of my very good friends (and also a wise intellectual who happens to be a non-Sikh) likes to use the phrase "forty percent". By 40% he refers to the fact that as long as Muslims are under the 40%

lol this is so stupid I don't even know where to begin. Probably written up by a Muslim acting like a soldier. I've made 4839 posts on this website, and I'd like to think this is the only time I've u

Chicken <banned word filter activated>??? Son u just literally spewed it out with ur mouth when u implied that I am referring to whatever hot-headed <banned word filter activated> notion u seem to have bout Sri-Lanka. Talking about insecurity I thought u guys were locked in ur asylums but I forgot they were given nation statuses not too long ago. Plus an <banned word filter activated> like u should have learnt ur lesson from the first few reactions u got on ur prior posts. besharam, pata nai sadai di akal bi aa ki nai.

lol...You are such a gullible goat running around that your post does not even make sense. Your posts contains so many 'banned words' that I can't even make sense of it...So go back again..read my post...and "respond" what exactly is your problem with OP?

Stop acting like an idi*t and take those 13 michies out of your arse....now I understand the logic of your username...

Calm your behind down...take those mirchies out..and DISCUSS whats wrong with OP by quoting it...what will such name calling achieve?

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The battle of Balakot was nothing more than starry-eyed optimism and an ignorance of military rationality. It relied heavily on chance. Ahmad heavily relied on "Allah" to do the planning and saw himself as a sword wielder. His own strategy backfired on him due to it's fundamnetal basis being located in nothing more than sheer stupidness and tomfoolery.

Inspired by extremism and an answer to the decadent policies of the virtually extinct mughal empire, the battle was the first jihad launched via the <Edited> ideology. It aimed to usher Punjab into an Islamic past which would rival the golden age of the mughal state. Lead by a fanatical individual it aimed to eradicate the Sikh empire, expand the new state's border to connect with British India and ultimately birth an extensively powerful Islamic state. Plans which were paid put by the Khalsa forces. The battle was the brainchild of Syed Ahmed, a deeply religious Islamic individual who has been awarded the honor of being the first indigenous Jihadi of the Indian sub-continent. He was born in Rai Breli in 1786 A.D., a time when the mughal state's funeral bells were pealing with ever greater pitch. The Maratha confederacy had turned on their Mughal masters and had succeeded in establishing an independent domain of sorts, despite being severely mauled by the ferocious Afghanis. The Sikhs had succeeded in liberating major portions of Punjab and planting the seeds of a powerful and Alexandrian empire, whilst a major portion of the sub-continent was divided among various warlords, generals and princes.

Syed Ahmed easily garnered the factor that attacking the British, who were a rising power, would earn him no territorial merit. It would only invoke the latter's wrath upon him and crush his campaign. The Marathas despite being severely weakened by their engagements with the Afghanis, Sikhs and the British still presented a murderous front to any potential invader. This only left the Sikh empire, an isolated but extensively impregnable domain ruled over by Maharajah Ranjit Singh. An awe-inspiring Napoleonic figure in his own right. Ahmed based his assumptions on the Afghani intolerance of the Sikh infidels. He unwittingly assumed that the Afghani polity would aide him in crushing the infidel and liberating what he saw as being an oppressed populace. With these potential factors as his basis, Ahmed left his family and with total faith in Allah traversed towards Peshawar. His journey was arduous and extensively bone breaking. He took a route via Sindh, Quetta, Qandhar and Kabul, and arrived heavily exhausted in Peshawar where he outlined his plan to the various regional warlords and warrior populace. An extensive number of these individuals had prior to Ahmed's arrival, crossed steel with the Khalsa forces and were heavily disillusioned by his ineptness and heavy reliance on fate amalgamated with luck. After depicting their ridicule of his planned campaign they left him, yet despite this failure, on Ahmed's part, he still managed to raise a detachment of Mujhaideen warriors who being hot-blooded and head strong readily agreed to attack Sikh domains. Led by Ahmed they succeeded in attacking a few Sikh territories but were mostly beaten back, which subsequently lowered their morale and provoked no reaction from the Khalsa border forces.

Ahmed on seeing this and after conferencing with his accomplices, including Shah Ismail the grandson of Shah Waliulah of Delhi, decided on a new course of action. He adopted a nomadic agenda and continually traveled from one province frontier to it's neighbor until ultimately he set foot in Balakot in 1831 A.D. Foregoing all militaristic and rational notions, Ahmed's strategy was to engage the Sikh in the mountains of Balakot, annihilate them and conquer neighboring Kashmir; another extended domain of Ranjit Singh's regional fiefdom.

“I am in the mountains of Pakhli (name of the area). The people here have welcomed us with warmth and hospitality and have given us a place to stay. They have also promised to support us in the jihad. For the time being, I am camped in the town of Balakot, which is located in the (river) Kunhar pass. The army of the infidels [kuffars] is camped not too far from us. Since Balakot is located at a secure place (surrounded by hills and bounded by the river), God willing, the infidels will not be able to reach us. Of course, we may choose to advance and enter into a battle at our own initiative. And this we intend to do in the next two or three days. With the help of God, we will be victorious. If we win this battle, and, God willing, we will, then we will occupy all the land alongside the Jehlum River including the Kingdom of Kashmir. Please pray, day and night, for our victory.”

-Syed Ahmad's letter to an accomplice.

Hari Singh Nalwa, the lion-shredder, was the viceroy and commander-in-chief of the Punjab territories encircling Balakot. An intelligent and fearsome general Hari Singh commanded his main captain Sher Singh to encircle Balakot and move a battalion of the Khalsa forces to Muzaffarabad. A few companies also surrounded Mitti Kot, the mountainous terrain encircling Ahmed's forces. Ahmed after surveying the battlefield had it flooded to encumber the attacking Khalsa forces. Headlong he fell into the elaborate trap planned by his foes, the Khalsa nerve-center had easily maneuvered it's foe into the very position the latter had wanted to encumber the Khalsa in. On the days catalyzing in commencement of the battle a mujhaideen foolishly charged the Khalsa companies keeping him under surveillance. He became encumbered by the very mud which Ahmed had planned to annihilate the Khalsa opposition in. Khalsa snipers soon finished him off via their bullets.

Realizing that his elaborate trap had been exposed, with the crack of dawn Ahmed ordered a headlong charge into the Khalsa forces. Discarding all caution the mujhaideen vainly charged the joyous Khalsa who readily clashed with it. Amongst cries of Allah, and Waheguru a bloody slaughter commenced in which the mujhaideen were rapidly dispatched to their resting regions. It is believed that 1300 mujhaideen blindly lost their lives that fateful day, with the Khalsa receiving only a few casualties. The first indigenous sub-continental jihad met it's demise in a bloody fashion.

http://tisarpanth.blogspot.co.nz/2013/06/the-battle-of-balakot.html

It was ironically (for the Islamists) similar to the debacle caused by their extremism during the raaj, specifically when they passed an indigenous resolution to decry and ban 'jhatka.' They were fittingly answered by Jhabbar and his crew.

Nice....

A very nationalistic-propagandist way of describing history..Look at the choice of words the author uses....Anyways..

Btw, guess who owns balakot and all other contested areas today? The so-called 'Political Islam' (not that a thing called political Islam actually exists lol) :biggrin2:

I agree with John101 though that Pakistan is the ultimate expression of Political Islam in sub-continent...It shows to the anti-Muslim bigots that Islam is here...and it is here to stay Inshallah!

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Christian Egypt, North Africa, Middle east, Zoroastrian Iran, Central Asia and Buddhism in Afghanistan and in parts of Central Asia all crumbled after Islam began to rule over their territories. In India too Islam ruled for 1000 years with an Iron hand.

Veeray, Zoroastrians and Buddhists don't (or rather didn't at that point of time) have a concept of "warriorship", so I guess Muslims basically walked over them without much stress. As for the Coptic Christians of Egypt, I am not too sure or aware if they showed the Muslims any/much armed resistance.

The level of inferiority-complex, insecurity, and hidden contempt and helplessness of Sikhs regarding Islam here is just out of bounds!

Yaar mai tenu bade dinaan ton ikk gall puchhni si, why do you guys (Pakistani Punjabi males) wear the salwaar which is actually considered a feminine outfit throughout the subcontinent? I want to know the reason from your perspective, maybe then we can distinguish who has the inferiority complex. :)

Pakistan is the ultimate expression of Political Islam in sub-continent...It shows to the anti-Muslim bigots that Islam is here...and it is here to stay

Just not there to rule ;)
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kyonki je rule karn laggpe fer ehi sab hona..........

(CNN) -- A young Pakistani actress was in critical condition Sunday after a man threw acid on her face while she was sleeping, her brother said.

The alleged attack on 18-year-old Bushra Waiz happened early Saturday at the family home in Nowshera, in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province of Pakistan.

Akhtar Waiz told CNN his family was asleep in the courtyard when a man burst in and threw acid on his sister.

Bushra Waiz, who is also known as Shazia Aziz, is a Pashto-language singer, actress and theater artist.

She suffered burns to the right side of her face. Doctors said her right leg, arm and eye were also injured.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/23/world/asia/pakistan-acid-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t5

Even though that "Hard Kaur" is miles away from Sikhi, I am sure today she would feel thankful she was born in a Sikh family.

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OP - WHAT IS THE ORIGINAL SOURCE OF YOUR POST.

LIES, LIES AND LIES - THAT IS WHAT IT IS ... NOTHING ELSE ...

SELF PROCLAIMATION LIES "I AM THE BEST", SAYING OH RETIRED USA/UK/FRENCH MILITARY PERSON SAID THIS.

WHICH RETIRED MILITARY PERSON SAID IT - NOBODY. ANY PROOF - NONE. ANYAUTHENTIC LINKS - NONE.

SO WHAT DO YOU DEDUCE - LIES, LIES AND LIES - THAT IS WHAT IT IS ... NOTHING ELSE ...

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Oh...my....goodness!

The level of inferiority-complex, insecurity, and hidden contempt and helplessness of Sikhs regarding Islam here is just out of bounds!

No...I mean NO ONE...got the point of whole post....

I can't even understand 'what' got such a reaction out of poor inferiority-complex stricken insecure sikhs here? Probably the words like "strongest" and Islam together? :lol2: Author never said anything like "Muslims are the strongest" or "Islam will dominate the world" ...it only stated that Islam, according to him, is the 'strongest ideological force' .... Stalinism was an ideological force...so is following of political parties...its also a form of 'ideological force' ...

What I wanted to ask was how people felt the way the author described Islam..by using rather negative connotations..and loaded words....such as "Islam ingrains itself in the mind of the follower" ..or that "it controls everything of a man" or many other such things...These things are not positive to be said to any religion...I wanted to see if people here have a similar perception of Islam? But Lo behold, the deeeeeepppppp sense of inferiority took over and people just lashed out not on the article..but on their own personal insecurities that they somehow saw in the article. What is "islamic propaganda" in this article? Where does it say "Islam will take over the world"? Where does it say "Infidels must be killed and Muslims are best"?

The amount of insecurity running through Sikhs here is just Amazingggg!!!! I seriously wonder how bad Paks Muslims are in UK that have made Sikhs act this way?

Hey PakistaniPunjabi01! Why won't you respond to my lovely post? :p

DON'T LEAVE ME HANGIN DUDE!

ARE YOU SCARED OF ME?

PAKISTANIPUNJABI01!!!!!

COME OUT TO PLAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY!!!!!

:p

I just LOVE the irony you're spouting right now!

Sikhs have an inferiority complex? Hahahaha

Punjabi Sikhs are NOTORIOUS for being arrogant, it gets us a suprising amount of trouble and hatred. Guru Gobind in his 52 Hukams even tried to get us to stop bigging ourselves up. I'm sure you've heard our Bhangra music (invented as a variation of Punjabi Folk Music by Punjabi Sikhs in the UK) and heard it played at Pakistani weddings you've gone to :p

Sikhs are the most successful Asian group in the UK, the only other minority that makes more money than us is Jews, and we don't need to hate them for it :p . At the bottom of course is Pakistani's in their ghetto's claiming benefits.

A Punjabi Sikh guy can walk into a club (if he's so inclined) and pull a bird no problem (Indians usually get a lame reputation, Punjabi Sikhs are considered tough). Women run straight the other away from a guy with a Muslim name. THAT is why we will never have Sikh grooming gangs, well that and the fact that it's the worst thing you can do and completely against everything Sikhism stands for :p .

If a Sikh guy ever tried to get his brother or uncle involved in prostituting little girls, the whole family would beat him until he was wheelchair bound and have him jailed.

Muslim men don't get many options... maybe that's the problem? Little children in care homes are the only ones they can successfully go after? That or they have to lie, blackmail, harass and use all sorts of pathetic tactics, many times make a poor girls life a living hell to the point where embracing Islam is seen as an ESCAPE! Also if I was circumcized... I'd probably be angry all the time too. SORE UNPROTECTED DRY PRIVATES RUBBING AGAINST MY BOXER SHORTS ARGGH! :p

Islam is the very EMBODIMENT of the inferiority complex matey.

Islam wants women to cover themselves head to toe in a big black sheet with only one eye hole so nobody will 'steal' them! (which they do anyway :p)

Islam will outright kill you if you try to leave.

Islam wants to subjugate everyone and everything, so people can SEE how 'amazing' Islam is. I'm sure if you put a gun/sword in most peoples face they'll say they're a chicken that farts rainbows too.

Muslim countries hate the 'dirty' West but want everything it has for itself. This has been the case with Islam since its very CREATION, starting with Muhammad jealous of Meccan Jews, Christians and Pagans. When they didn't listen to his rubbish he started causing trouble. When the Meccans had had enough they threw him out. The Medinian Jews took him in and protected him. When he became powerful enough he then had the Jews beheaded, and made their women and children slaves. After that he went staight to Mecca and Islam began an endless (until now) conquering rampage.

Pakistan is founded on that, it's always jealous of India to the point of starting wars that it always loses. India just won the Cricket Champions Trophy, do you think Pakistani's were happy about that?

Muslims always feel like they are being attacked, when it's THEM doing the attacking to people who are TRYING to accept them.

You yourself are a Muslim, and you've come on a Sikh forum trying to make us believe Islam is great. WHY DO YOU EVEN CARE WHAT WE THINK? Do you see Sikhs giving enough of a crap to go to Muslim forums? It's so pathetic mate :p

Dude...

The ancestors of Sikhs were proud people who fought for values that are even loftier than what we have in the West today, against tyranny and oppression. No matter what happens and no matter how far Sikhs fall, nobody can EVER take that away from us. We are respected the world over.

Your own Hindu ancestors were murdered, raped, harassed, blackmailed and taxed until they SUBMITTED to Islam because they had no choice. THINK of all that pain they lived through. Why are you not angry about that? Don't they deserve you trying to stop this madness once and for all?

Nobody hates Muslims (just the radical/hateful Muslims that actually FOLLOW IT PROPERLY). You're all victims, especially the girls.

We just pity you dude :( .

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wow PakistaniPunjabi01, you have surpassed yourself with the islamo-fascist propaganda you come out with this article can only be written by a muslim who was too high on zam zam water lol

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I personally think a lot of members here under estimate Islam to a great degree. It is a powerful force since it started 1400 years ago. It dominated the world politically, culturally, militarily, economically. Where ever it went, the most ancient and powerful civilizations were not able to stand against it. Christian Egypt, North Africa, Middle east, Zoroastrian Iran, Central Asia and Buddhism in Afghanistan and in parts of Central Asia all crumbled after Islam began to rule over their territories. In India too Islam ruled for 1000 years with an Iron hand. But to the credit of India, it is the only land in the world where Islam was not able to dominate over the Indigenous religions. Despite overwhelming odds and great struggle, Sikhs in Punjab and Marathas in Dekhan are the only powers in the world who were able to defeat Islam militarily and reclaim their lands. This was a time when wars were still fought based on physical strength.

Political Islam in India had almost extinguished by mid 18th century. Shah Wali Ullah had made great efforts to save political Islam and for this task he requested Ahmad Shah Abdali to invade India to crush to the military power of the Marathas and Hindu Jats. In the 3rd battle of Panipat, all the Muslim chiefs of North India including the powerful Rohillas rallied around Abdali while the Hindus did not stand with Marathas(due to the fact that Marathas were exploiting Hindus as much as Muslims). The Muslims won at Panipat. But this victory was short lived. Within ten years of this victory Marathas began to re assert themselves and Sikhs had by then also dominated North India. Had the British not intervened and saved Islam in South Asia, today Sikhism would have dominated Pakistan and North India while Marathas would have reclaimed the rest of India for their religion.

When the British took over India by the 19th century, Sikhs were the only independent political power in South Asia. The Muslims under a fanatic named Syad Ahmad Barelvi and his companion Shah Ismail (Grandson of Shah Wali Ullah) had tried to re assert the political power of Islam. For this task Syad Ahmad Barelvi had gathered thousands of Pathan Jihadis around him in N W Frontier who called him Amir Ul Monineen. For a while they tasted success, but they were badly crushed by the Sikhs in the battle of Balakot.

In South Asia today political Islam is now represented by Pakistan. Hindus have the political power over India. Sikhs have been the biggest losers politically of the three since the departure of the British. But Guru Jee will also bless us with Raaj one day as we had in the past.

Very well researched you seem to have a great knowledge on Sikh history and turning point events. Indeed the battle of balakot where the waaahabi salafi tekfiri jihadi muslim mujahadeen dogs aided by another set of dogs (agents of the british east india company) were crushed by the powerful Sikh Khalsa army and their selected pathan clan allies of peshawar who resented Islamic sharia rule of these mad jihadis and preferred the freedom that Sikh rule had given gave them. Interestingly balakot was struck by an earthquake a few years ago where 50,000 kashmiri muslims were destroyed in that event. It seems that place is cursed and where the mad muslims had erected a masjid in the name of Syed Ahmed Barelvi

Islam is like a mental disorder a disease unless you treat it at the roots (ie take out saudi arabia and ban its teaching from the west like most of nazi ideology is) then there will be major trouble in the coming future when muslim populations hit above 40% marks in some european countries. The white europeans govt establishments know this and are panicking but are also preparing plans how to instigate a war with Islam and muslims if ever it seems a muslim govt will be formed in europe. This is why EU is very reluctant to allow Turkey into Europe thjey do not want the voting and migration rights that muslim turks would have if they become party of the EU thus accelerating the downfall of free democratic western societies.

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Very well researched you seem to have a great knowledge on Sikh history and turning point events. Indeed the battle of balakot where the waaahabi salafi tekfiri jihadi muslim mujahadeen dogs aided by another set of dogs (agents of the british east india company) were crushed by the powerful Sikh Khalsa army and their selected pathan clan allies of peshawar who resented Islamic sharia rule of these mad jihadis and preferred the freedom that Sikh rule had given gave them. Interestingly balakot was struck by an earthquake a few years ago where 50,000 kashmiri muslims were destroyed in that event. It seems that place is cursed and where the mad muslims had erected a masjid in the name of Syed Ahmed Barelvi

Islam is like a mental disorder a disease unless you treat it at the roots (ie take out saudi arabia and ban its teaching from the west like most of nazi ideology is) then there will be major trouble in the coming future when muslim populations hit above 40% marks in some european countries. The white europeans govt establishments know this and are panicking but are also preparing plans how to instigate a war with Islam and muslims if ever it seems a muslim govt will be formed in europe. This is why EU is very reluctant to allow Turkey into Europe thjey do not want the voting and migration rights that muslim turks would have if they become party of the EU thus accelerating the downfall of free democratic western societies.

They say before the dog dies it makes a great crescendo. Seems like PakistaniPunjabi's posts and concepts are an adherence of this aphroism. From a technical and political viewpoint Pakistan is nothing more then a gullible pawn in the greater American game. On one hand it's support of the Taliban back during the soviet invasion easily let the CIA mask it's own rule in the entire event, whereas its present day upheavels are nothing more than fundamental Islamic sentiments showcasing themselves. The nation has been more of a failure then India in the past century. By luck it gained significant geographical regions, by it's own intelligence and infidel versus Islamic dictums it is destroying them. Their own forums are full of their conscience faults and hate-preaching to implement their radical concepts they jump onto non-muslim forums.

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Veeray, Zoroastrians and Buddhists don't (or rather didn't at that point of time) have a concept of "warriorship", so I guess Muslims basically walked over them without much stress. As for the Coptic Christians of Egypt, I am not too sure or aware if they showed the Muslims any/much armed resistance.

These areas (Egypt, North Africa, Syria, Upper Middle-East etc) were under Byzantine Christian Empire...Iran/Afghanistan etc was under Persian Empire...both of these empire were the super powers of their times and very brutal and militaristic vast states...so they had much more than just the concept of warriorship...

Yaar mai tenu bade dinaan ton ikk gall puchhni si, why do you guys (Pakistani Punjabi males) wear the salwaar which is actually considered a feminine outfit throughout the subcontinent? I want to know the reason from your perspective, maybe then we can distinguish who has the inferiority complex. :)

hahaha..first thing..Shalwar is worn by even indian males..isn't it? Also, Shalwar is like jeans...worn by both males and females....there is a difference though in male shalwaars and female shalwaars..being an indian..you should have known that..no?

Just not there to rule ;)

Already ruling 50+ countries/nation states lying globally in Sub-Saharan Africa, Euro-Asian plate, Indian Sub-continent, South East Asia , Central Asia, Europe, North Africa, Middle-East, Levant etc...Mashallah!

What else we need? ;)

Not to mention vast territories in China, Russia etc where Muslims form the majority and have more autonomy than Sikhs of Punjab (specially the case with Russian Muslim Majority regions)...

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Very well researched you seem to have a great knowledge on Sikh history and turning point events. Indeed the battle of balakot where the waaahabi salafi tekfiri jihadi muslim mujahadeen dogs aided by another set of dogs (agents of the british east india company) were crushed by the powerful Sikh Khalsa army and their selected pathan clan allies of peshawar who resented Islamic sharia rule of these mad jihadis and preferred the freedom that Sikh rule had given gave them. Interestingly balakot was struck by an earthquake a few years ago where 50,000 kashmiri muslims were destroyed in that event. It seems that place is cursed and where the mad muslims had erected a masjid in the name of Syed Ahmed Barelvi

Islam is like a mental disorder a disease unless you treat it at the roots (ie take out saudi arabia and ban its teaching from the west like most of nazi ideology is) then there will be major trouble in the coming future when muslim populations hit above 40% marks in some european countries. The white europeans govt establishments know this and are panicking but are also preparing plans how to instigate a war with Islam and muslims if ever it seems a muslim govt will be formed in europe. This is why EU is very reluctant to allow Turkey into Europe thjey do not want the voting and migration rights that muslim turks would have if they become party of the EU thus accelerating the downfall of free democratic western societies.

They might have Balakot now but we can make it out as a gift to them. It will assist them in recalling that fairy tales aren't exactly inscribed in rationality and logic. The very political Islam which showcases anti-American sentiments ignores the factor that Saudi Arabian monarchs are virtually encased by American security forces. The American role for them is only to act as the scapegoat for irritating their anger. Otherwise they ignore that without America their existence in the global political web is null.

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Hey PakistaniPunjabi01! Why won't you respond to my lovely post? :p

DON'T LEAVE ME HANGIN DUDE!

ARE YOU SCARED OF ME?

PAKISTANIPUNJABI01!!!!!

COME OUT TO PLAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY!!!!!

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I just LOVE the irony you're spouting right now!

Sikhs have an inferiority complex? Hahahaha

Punjabi Sikhs are NOTORIOUS for being arrogant, it gets us a suprising amount of trouble and hatred. Guru Gobind in his 52 Hukams even tried to get us to stop bigging ourselves up. I'm sure you've heard our Bhangra music (invented as a variation of Punjabi Folk Music by Punjabi Sikhs in the UK) and heard it played at Pakistani weddings you've gone to :p

Sikhs are the most successful Asian group in the UK, the only other minority that makes more money than us is Jews, and we don't need to hate them for it :p . At the bottom of course is Pakistani's in their ghetto's claiming benefits.

A Punjabi Sikh guy can walk into a club (if he's so inclined) and pull a bird no problem (Indians usually get a lame reputation, Punjabi Sikhs are considered tough). Women run straight the other away from a guy with a Muslim name. THAT is why we will never have Sikh grooming gangs, well that and the fact that it's the worst thing you can do and completely against everything Sikhism stands for :p .

If a Sikh guy ever tried to get his brother or uncle involved in prostituting little girls, the whole family would beat him until he was wheelchair bound and have him jailed.

Muslim men don't get many options... maybe that's the problem? Little children in care homes are the only ones they can successfully go after? That or they have to lie, blackmail, harass and use all sorts of pathetic tactics, many times make a poor girls life a living hell to the point where embracing Islam is seen as an ESCAPE! Also if I was circumcized... I'd probably be angry all the time too. SORE UNPROTECTED DRY PRIVATES RUBBING AGAINST MY BOXER SHORTS ARGGH! :p

Islam is the very EMBODIMENT of the inferiority complex matey.

Islam wants women to cover themselves head to toe in a big black sheet with only one eye hole so nobody will 'steal' them! (which they do anyway :p)

Islam will outright kill you if you try to leave.

Islam wants to subjugate everyone and everything, so people can SEE how 'amazing' Islam is. I'm sure if you put a gun/sword in most peoples face they'll say they're a chicken that farts rainbows too.

Muslim countries hate the 'dirty' West but want everything it has for itself. This has been the case with Islam since its very CREATION, starting with Muhammad jealous of Meccan Jews, Christians and Pagans. When they didn't listen to his rubbish he started causing trouble. When the Meccans had had enough they threw him out. The Medinian Jews took him in and protected him. When he became powerful enough he then had the Jews beheaded, and made their women and children slaves. After that he went staight to Mecca and Islam began an endless (until now) conquering rampage.

Pakistan is founded on that, it's always jealous of India to the point of starting wars that it always loses. India just won the Cricket Champions Trophy, do you think Pakistani's were happy about that?

Muslims always feel like they are being attacked, when it's THEM doing the attacking to people who are TRYING to accept them.

You yourself are a Muslim, and you've come on a Sikh forum trying to make us believe Islam is great. WHY DO YOU EVEN CARE WHAT WE THINK? Do you see Sikhs giving enough of a crap to go to Muslim forums? It's so pathetic mate :p

Dude...

The ancestors of Sikhs were proud people who fought for values that are even loftier than what we have in the West today, against tyranny and oppression. No matter what happens and no matter how far Sikhs fall, nobody can EVER take that away from us. We are respected the world over.

Your own Hindu ancestors were murdered, raped, harassed, blackmailed and taxed until they SUBMITTED to Islam because they had no choice. THINK of all that pain they lived through. Why are you not angry about that? Don't they deserve you trying to stop this madness once and for all?

Nobody hates Muslims (just the radical/hateful Muslims that actually FOLLOW IT PROPERLY). You're all victims, especially the girls.

We just pity you dude :( .

When the Jews paid attention to Muhammad muslims bowed down to Jerusalem. After they exposed his veil of fraudery and deceit they turned him away. Hence we have Mecca. Researchers and historians have often studied works of Islamic self-doubters and concluded that the very rituals followed at this significant Islamic location are nothing more than glossed over and rejuvenated pagan rituals, veiled by Mohammadean myths. Furthermore the anti-Jewish, Christan sentiments with destruction of the Zorastrain heritage exposes the inferiority-complex Islam embodies. It extensively borrowed from such prior faiths and now labels them as being nothing more than veritable "trash" in order to veil it's fundamental gratitude to them.

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