Spiritual Without Being Sikh.....

[Only five]

Why would anyone want to promote 3HO? This cult has a fake Guru named Yogi Bhajan who has passed away. Being very spiritual means to be conscious. To be conscious a person needs to understand why. Take the OP's partner dilemma. If he was conscious or as he put it very spiritual, then having a partner or not having a partner would not concern him. What would be an issue for him is the fact of uniting the soul with Akal Purakh. However he is stuck on searching for a partner, which he believes will help him strengthen his spirituality. Hence he is looking for a like minded partner. In essence the 5 elements are in control and causing this feeling of emptiness. However, what he ought to be looking for is Satguru as the poster savinderpal singh has posted. The words of Satguru might leave a sour taste in the OP's mouth, but that's just the medicine taking the ego out and replacing it with Satgur Parsad.

If a person is spiritual, then why even think about marriage. Ask yourself where marriage has started from? It is a religious practice. And why search for only one marriage partner? Why not two or three? Is the OP conscious after becoming very spiritual by his own methods and ways?

[isingh1699]

couple of the above points are false, one poster above suggest only sikhi will get you out of this dunia (strange that we had muslim/hindu saints contribute to bani but you feel that you can dismiss their religion)

OP if you prefer to work on spirtuality than work on it, i myself am a sikh and if you read bani thats essentially what it says, your actions will be those of a sikh even if you dont think they are! Find whatever route works for your soul that makes sense to you never let another dictate the terms of your life!

Only our positive actions will get us out of this dunia. Baba Farid Ji, Bhagat Namdev Ji, Bhagat Kabir Ji and Bhagat Ravidas as main examples all rejected Islam+Hinduism, so Veerji not to argue with u but i think it's wrong if we label mukht Bhagats as Hindu's+Muslims when they all exposed the falsehood of Hinduism+Islam. But yeah no doubt there are different routes to God + we don't knock alternative routes taken by true seekers whatever their faith or none (so long as they are sincere in terms of not supporting slavery, pedophilia, caste abuse, sati etc).

If a person is spiritual, then why even think about marriage.

Not to argue with u Veerji but thats the same excuse all the pakhandi baba's who never get married use ... when Guru Sahib explained that spirituality lies within gristh jeevan rather than shunning marriage like Hindu sadhs. These pakhandi babe don't really need marriage with the amount of devdasi's they use + abuse on the regular.

[Only five]

Not to argue with u Veerji but thats the same excuse all the pakhandi baba's who never get married use ... when Guru Sahib explained that spirituality lies within gristh jeevan rather than shunning marriage like Hindu sadhs. These pakhandi babe don't really need marriage with the amount of devdasi's they use + abuse on the regular.

I was simply stating that 'spiritual' people who reject religion are only rejecting what they don't like about religion. However what they like about religion they accept like marriage. IF they totally rejected religion then they would not feel the need to get married.

[isingh1699]

I was simply stating that 'spiritual' people who reject religion are only rejecting what they don't like about religion. However what they like about religion they accept like marriage. IF they totally rejected religion then they would not feel the need to get married.

Thanks for clarifying the way u meant it Veerji.

I agree with the point ur making about spiritual people only rejecting the parts they don't like (even tho the truth is ALL Satgur Prasad)

[SeekingTheLight]

More of a Buddhist approach then really...

[Guest Satnam]

Sikhism is not a religion- Guru Nanak Said no Hindu No Muslim- there's only 1 all pervading God who cannot be confined to a religion.

[Guest Truth]

To the op, sikh means student. We are students of the All Pervading Truth. Gurbani asks us to practice bhagti- to forever live the truth, practice, to breathe it and recognise yourself and All as it.

Naam is Truth- it is the frequency of a balanced gyan that lives to discover while remaining detached from the nasha of the discovery(Highs and lows, pleasure and pain, heaven and hell).

Hence we live as the lotus floating above the muddy water- the khel is in play but we remain detached from its nashas, in a balanced state called truth- in recognition that it is not reality- that the reality is nothing. Gurbani speaks of this nothingness- read it and practice it.

A spiritual mind is a silenced mind- we are spiritual warriors, living beyond the noise and the bullsh*t always in remberance of the truth. Religion is false- only truth remains- it was practiced during the age of Satyug and is still practiced to this day- just much much less-which is why we are in kalyug- the psychology of the people is a hellish psychology. People indulge in lustful and angry thoughts, cannot accept their pain so take it out on others and themselves.

God bless you

[N30S1NGH]

Sikhism is not a religion- Guru Nanak Said no Hindu No Muslim- there's only 1 all pervading God who cannot be confined to a religion.

Satnam ji, what you said is true when we look at things from sikh theological level (Sargun and nirgun flow), bhramgyan aspect or higher level of dharam (dharam has four level- shariat, tariqat, marfat and hakikat). At marfat and hakikat level its never ending sargun and nirgun flow into one Ikongkar but at shariat, tariqat ...perception of sikhi an religion is there however its not meant o be confine guru or god into religion its many sikh followers do it not sikh ideology itself.

Coming back to sikh spiritual means- spiritual is who is more inclined towards marfat and hakikat level of dharam that after taking admission (amrit) they don't spent even one second wrapping their head around shariat rules/level in sikhi, shariat rituals comes to them as 2nd human nature just like in worldly example- master student following basic abcd rules (which are given at the time of admission) as part of process.

Sorry didn't mean to confuse everyone..Sikhi is deep, but when we see things in form of stages..its becomes very clear path.

[Guest enigma]

Buddhism is fake and flawed it only partly tells of story of who and what we are. It just says just let things happen if you did that you will be a non-entity in life and a walk over. Sikhism says stand up against injustice and fight it when you see wrong doing going on. A true Buddhist would not interfere any wrong doing no physical violence to stop the aggressor who uses armed force. buddhists are also hypocrites when you see places like sri lanka and burma you can see they are doing ethnic cleansing and state sanctioned genocide against against non-Buddhists like muslims in burma and tamil hindus/muslims in sri lanka so where is their tenant of non violence? It's in tatters...

Thats why Sikhism is the greatest and most complete religion it caters for all temporal and spiritual aspects of a human being.