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This was known to the Sikh militants who right after the riots began planting bombs near areas where many of these rioters came from.

Veerji all bombs planted in poor areas were done by Congress in order to paint the Sikhs as terrorists + solidify the Congress votebank.

The Khalsa Panth never targets innocent human beings. We can only extract justice from the individual dushts that co-ordinated Genocide against us ... not indiscriminately against innocent poor people. For example, Shaheed Bhai Beant Singh and Shaheed Bhai Satwant Singh took great care only to target terrorist Indira Gandhi.

You need to read up on the personal accounts of the survivors. Many Sikh and Hindu bibis who were kidnapped and gang raped were mostly married off to the low caste Muslims i.e. Rakshawalas, Rehdiwalas, poor Muslims.etc.

I have Veerji and you do realise that it was the Muslim Zamindar castes (who held the strings of the well-planned Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs) sold off the female rape victims to their poorer brethren as they didn't want to have sex with what they saw as previously spoiled goods (very much similar to how Prophet Muhammad in the Holy Quran enjoins Muslims to enjoy and profit from the fruits of war against non-Muslims and participate in the rape of slavegirls). Of course you rightly point out that the Punjabi Muslims despised Sikhs on a collective basis, irrespective of their Muslim castes due to brainwashing by Qazi's.

I don't think the Sikh death toll was 25%.

Given that total fatalities due to Partition were between 1million to 1.5million of which Sikhs comprised 35-40% of the innocent victims (despite our 13% population share) coupled with the fact that a minority of the Panth lived in Pakistani districts, we clearly see that 25% of the Sikh Panth in Pakistan being killed in Jinnah's Genocide of the Sikhs is fully conceivable Veerji.

Sikhs in east Punjab retaliated and killed about 5 Lakh Muslims. So Sikhs killed double more Muslims than Muslims killed Sikhs.

Veerji these are skewed figures cooked up by Muslim and Hindu writers to paint the Sikh Qaum as beasts when we merely defended ourselves from annihilation and extermination in east Punjab at the hand of Muslim aggressors. For a community which is many times more numerous than us, their casualty figures were only marginally above our own. They were ready to kick us out of Amritsar, Jalandhar, Ludhiana all the way to Delhi. But Sikhs foiled the attempts of Muslims to exterminate us wherever we had reasonable numerical strength of numbers to defend ourselves. As you have pointed out before, demographics are vital and we desperately need to include as many as possible (as soon as possible) within the Sikh Panth if we are to avoid repeats of 1947 and 1984.

So many Muslims had died at the hands of Sikhs that at the time Muslims and Hindus alike began to blame Sikhs for all the partition violence.

That's what disgusting Veerji.

We were the innocent victims of Partition and we get blamed for defending ourselves against Pakistan's Genocide of Sikhs!

Muslim writers would only understand what we Sikhs suffered if 25% of their Qaum in Pakistan (50million) was killed by terrorists.

Sikhs were used as a scapegoat by both the communities who wiped their hands clean of any crime even though the real perpetrators of the riots were the Muslims.

You're 100% correct Veerji

The Hindus lead by Gandhi who were trying to appease the Indian Muslims also happily blamed the Sikhs for all the partition violence and even branded the Sikhs as a "Criminal community" which was exposed by Sirdar Kapoor Singh Jee.

Standing up for human rights, liberty and Sarbat Da Bhala has always gotten Sikhs labelled as criminals as terrorists.

Gurbachan Singh Talib wrote his famous book setting the record straight.

Well reminded Veerji of Gurbachan Singh Ji's book.

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During 84 riots, the thousands of Hindus who were rioting against Sikhs were not Brahmins and Khatris, but mostly poor and illiterate people belonging to low castes. In 1947, when Muslims attacked Sikhs, the man power came mostly from so called low castes. I am not saying low castes are bad, but sadly they can get easily manipulated by higher castes who lead them into riots.

Secondly, if you go to Punjab today, many Muslim Gujjars have migrated to Punjab from J&K. They are a very manly and brave people. Milk being their main source of food(since they are milkmen), they are physically strong too. They are very religious Kattar type Muslims unlike the watered down migrant Muslims from UP/Bihar

I am not saying it is Muslims. Currently no one in Punjab seems to know for sure who these attackers are. Some are saying it is African students, some say Muslims, some say Shiv Sena, some say the government is behind this. But these attacks are happening(according to the people in the Pinds) and they are happening in the rural areas.

Most of the senior Police and Government officials that organised the massacre of Sikhs were Brahmins and Khatris. In fact Punjabi Hindus leaders like Tytler were the worst as they are mostly Arya Samaj followers.

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^ As far as African students go.....Thats got to be the most un-African looking African I've ever seen. :stupidme:

Seriously now, dal Khalsa should not be confusing kale kachewale with Africans. One's a race of people and the others a colour of underpants.

What seems to be happening now is a repeat of what rural Punjab witnessed under KPS Gill.

You see, India is a very strange country. You have castes and tribes who have long standing occupations. Sons do as fathers did. Some tribes are blacksmiths.....some are painters....others are cooks. You also have criminal tribes. The art of killing is their family occupations. The British called the tribe that go around strangling people thugees. Thats where we get the English word thug from. Another tribe are what are known as the kale kachewale from somewhere in central India. They are expert controtionists and are able to stop their hearts and breaths for long periods much like the mime artists and statue people you see in public squares. They are dark and they only wear dark pants....hence kale kachewale. You don't see them coming...you don't hear them coming. You don't even know they';ve been because by then you're dead. They come in the dead of night and they cover their entire bodies with grease, both to slip through tight gaps and prevent anyone getting a grip. After 1984 the Punjab police used them extensively in rural Punjab, and would pin the blame on robberies by dakus. The M.O is that policemen bring the kale kachewale to the outskirts of a village in their police jeep....tell the kale kachewale who to rob and kill....and then to come back to the rendevouz point to be taken away again. It was obvious the police were involved because every now and then during the middle of the night someone would awaken and scream, awakening the whole village. Miracously, the police would appear within minutes....whereas normally they take 2 days to appear.

Seems to me we're seeing the re-appearance of the kale kachewale.

Yeah I would have to agree with you there dal khalsa uk have lost the plot for real if they talking about foreign african students attacking people just too absurd and surreal. However if they talking about the kale kachewale then thats a different matter. From what I know the kale kachewale are a gang of unwashed dark skinned indian black underpants wearing robbers usually low caste hindu dalit sudra types from various parts of india and punjab who got nothing to loose so carry out what they carry out to survive. They may have a hierarchy where they take orders from higher caste indian hindu criminals.

If such people are back in punjab robbing and killing people with impunity ...well then panchiyat armed militia's need to be developed to guard villages, towns and cities if the police cant do their job.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZvxoFcbzRM

Footage of the clean shaven Bangladeshi Muslim gang member pictured in SikhKosh Ji's above post getting a beating.

Congress used the Bangladeshi Muslims to stop indigenous Assamese people asking for human rights in Assam.

Now they are transfering the Bangladeshi Muslim killers to Punjab it seems to kill more innocent Sikhs.

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^ Lol, many people in this thread keep on saying that the attackers are African, yet the photos above show otherwise.

The man in the top-left hand corner FOR SURE isn't black. And even the other guy in the 3 photos doesn't seem black either.

And on top of that, you're saying that these black people are in India as students at colleges/universities....please.....just look at them...

They are not African or even black....even look at the top left-hand person's hair if you are still doubtful....also look at the height and physique of the second guy....everyone is towering over him.

They fit the profile of 50+% of India's male population....

Any random possible low-caste/poor bhayas with some type of extremist hatred inside of them.......doesn't this story sound familiar? Hmmm......

People in Africa aren't rich in the first place....so, when they are in foreign countries paying high foreign-student tuition rates....I doubt that they would do anything close to this kind of stuff. Also, if they are not in India with their own money, they are in India by various scholarship programs open to Africans by India and sometimes by the United Nations.

To me, it seems like the media or certain people don't want to make dark-skinned hatred-filled extremist Hindus/Muslims look bad.....so instead they say that they are "African/black".

Sure, there are incidents with Africans as well...but those are different.

I'm pretty sure the Africans receive the most racism from Hindus and not from Sikhs (hopefully).....then why are people in this topic claiming that the people being attacked in villages are only Sikhs? Doesn't that make you think....? Wouldn't the Africans be attacking Hindus primarily?

I think two different types of events are being mixed up here.

One is dark-skinned Hindus/Muslims attacking Sikhs.....and other is Indians being racist against Africans, consequentially leading to clashes.

They are two DIFFERENT stories.

Read ALL of the following articles and the comments on them as well as watch the videos....then tell me what you think:

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-06-17/india/40026536_1_police-station-police-officials-yannick-nizhanga

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-07-28/chandigarh/40847703_1_21-students-punjab-technical-university-four-students

http://www.ibtimes.com/indian-shops-congo-attacked-following-arrest-black-african-students-punjab-1316129

http://observers.france24.com/content/20130619-congolese-nationals-arrested-punjab-africans

http://www.tourismscope.org/2013/03/why-african-students-often-victims-of.html

http://postnoon.com/2012/03/16/african-students-seek-education-to-up-business/37747

http://www.5dariyanews.com/full-story.aspx?mid=10&nid=222

http://www.ndtv.com/article/cities/african-student-beaten-stoned-in-jalandhar-in-coma-for-3-months-239858

^ After looking through all of those links, articles, videos and comment sections........it is very clear that if it is Africans attacking people, that it is a reaction to something....that something being RACISM by Indians. However on the other hand...some people in those comments section have written how Africans in India sell drugs and also walk around with such attitude as if they are all big and bad (typical 'ganster'/hip-hop behaviour which many Indians are not in favour of...even though many Indians actually try to copy those same types of body movements and words because they think it's 'cool').

So there are two sides to each story. Let's be realistic and open minded. To blame everything on Africans in India is an over-simplistic narrative.

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What motive would the African students have for attacking someone? It seems to be a made up story. Or maybe there could have been one or two stories but it's too soon to call it a general trend.

Dal Khalsa should do more about inciting people against the abortion doctors and drug dealers in Punjab who are in reality taking human lives and making money from it in the process.

They converted to islam would be enough reason to attack us. Did you see the pic of one of the guys caught he had a beard and trimmed mustache.

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^^^ Veer the Bangladeshi Muslim men in the photo's are not converts to Islam but Bengali speaking born and raised Muslims.

Their height, weight, skin tone, shaved upper lip and language spoken confirms them as Muslim Bangladeshi terrorist/criminals (non-Africans). These Bangladeshi Muslim's (Rohingya) cousins attacked the Buddhists in Myanmar but nowadays even the kaffirs in Myanmar fought back against them too.

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Many of the caught are African as confirmed from sources in Punjab. Don't know if they're students but quite a few of them are African, just like in the left pic and also some videos from near Fatehgarh Chudian. Why do you keep denying without any proof?

Then you also got Bangladeshi Muslims. The American ambassador had warned years ago that Bangladeshi Muslim immigrants will cause trouble for Punjab Sikhs in the future...

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