Muslimans In Uk

[mrggg123]

Why do Pakistanis behave so badly, because guru nanak dev ji's disciples were muslim and because they way muslims act nowadays it makes people hate them. Why do some of us 'hate' muslims so much? I think its more to do with Pakistanis, other muslims I meet seem to be ok e.g arabs,. What do you think?

Should we respect muslims or dislike them? its a hard subject, because why was bhai mardna and kabir close to guru nanak dev ji when they believed in mohammed who 'supposedly' had sex with a 9 year old?

[N30S1NGH]

Should we respect muslims or dislike them?

[Hammertime007]

keep yourself and your family away from them, Some of us have sceen and know of the damage they do just ask sas and Sikh helpline

[PSingh13]

Is it me or every other thread on this site is about Muslims/British? I suggest mods on here create one mega thread on this topic so we don't have more threads on this issue.

[isingh1699]

1.guru nanak dev ji's disciples were muslim

2. its a hard subject, because why was bhai mardna and kabir close to guru nanak dev ji when they believed in mohammed who 'supposedly' had sex with a 9 year old?

Bro some important points that I wanted to correct on your post.

1. 50% of Guru Nanak Dev Ji's disciples were originally born to Muslim parents. When they became part of Guru Sahib's Sangat they ceased being Muslim and became Guru ke Sikh. This is a very important point to understand

2. Bhai Mardana was the first Sikh. He was not Muslim. Mughal writers started to claim he was Muslim in order to try and prevent other Muslims from becoming Sikh after Guru Arjan Dev Ji's shaheedi. Dhan Dhan Kabir Ji Maharaj were absolutely NOT Muslim either and they rejected and ridiculed Islam as you can read in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj. It's important to remember that just because a person's parents are Muslim that does not make a son Muslim especially if the son is the legendary first Gurmukh or one of our most blessed Bhagats. Sikhs cannot and do not believe in pedophilia. Sikhi condemns pedophilia, slavery, rape of slavegirls and all types of immoral oppression that Muhammad + the Quran promote.

PS: Good and innocent Muslims who do not hurt others but were just merely born into a religion/community should be treated with respect. Muslim terrorists, jihadists, people trying to convert non-Muslims and pedophiles deserve no respect.

[mrggg123]

Bro some important points that I wanted to correct on your post.

1. 50% of Guru Nanak Dev Ji's disciples were originally born to Muslim parents. When they became part of Guru Sahib's Sangat they ceased being Muslim and became Guru ke Sikh. This is a very important point to understand

2. Bhai Mardana was the first Sikh. He was not Muslim. Mughal writers started to claim he was Muslim in order to try and prevent other Muslims from becoming Sikh after Guru Arjan Dev Ji's shaheedi. Dhan Dhan Kabir Ji Maharaj were absolutely NOT Muslim either and they rejected and ridiculed Islam as you can read in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj. It's important to remember that just because a person's parents are Muslim that does not make a son Muslim especially if the son is the legendary first Gurmukh or one of our most blessed Bhagats. Sikhs cannot and do not believe in pedophilia. Sikhi condemns pedophilia, slavery, rape of slavegirls and all types of immoral oppression that Muhammad + the Quran promote.

PS: Good and innocent Muslims who do not hurt others but were just merely born into a religion/community should be treated with respect. Muslim terrorists, jihadists, people trying to convert non-Muslims and pedophiles deserve no respect.

Thank you for correcting me on that. Additionally why does it say in sikhi we shud respect islam when mohammed apparently did all these things? There must be certain aspects within the quaran which are making people turn to islam, not that im ever going to do that myself.

[isingh1699]

Thank you for correcting me on that.

1. Additionally why does it say in sikhi we shud respect islam when mohammed apparently did all these things?

2. There must be certain aspects within the quaran which are making people turn to islam, not that im ever going to do that myself.

1. Bro it goes without saying that our Guru Sahib teaches us to respect all of humanity regardless of what religion they follow. We give respect to those who deserve it on the basis of their actions. So if a kind doctor was born to Muslim parents but saves life after life day after day, am I better than him? Of course not! So the ADHERENTS of Islam and Hinduism and Judaism and Christianity do not deserve our automatic disrespect. Similarly, fragments of God's Truth exist within Hinduism, Islam and Christianity etc so we can't hate on everything about their religions if it is in line with Gurmat in isolated examples. But our Guru Sahiban never hesitated from opposing the slavery, pedophilia, inequality, discrimation and disrespect for women that was propagated by Prophet Muhammad + The Quran.

2. The Quran's unique selling point is that supposedly it was authored by God. That God called up Prophet Muhammad on his mobile or whatever they had back then (i think it was called the Angel Gabriel) and told Muhammad that he could have more than four wives but all other Muslims were restricted to a maximum of four, that God told Muhammad that 20% of profits from wars against kaffirs must go to him personally and that slavery was cool and so is raping slavegirls and all the other violent things that the Quran says. Another attraction of Islam is that it is supposedly a monotheist religion. Guess which peaceful religion has never properly explained to the World that it is the True Monotheist faith whose whole basis is Ik Onkaar? There is more than one route to merge with God so we respect all good people who through their good actions reach the same destination (no matter what they might believe or have been brainwashed to believe since birth) but we owe it to humanity not to peddle the lie that all ideogies are equally beneficial to mankind. Racism is not as good-racism. Slavery is not as good as anti-Slavery. But sadly its become popular amongst Sikhs to say that all ideologies are worthy of equal praise and respect.

Bro don't worry about what the Muslim drug dealers and groomers are doing in the UK. Focus on what you can achieve in your life in order to be a positive asset to the Panth as a lawyer, as a businessman who can support charities or as a community organiser to stop our youth getting mixed up in drugs or whatever your particular skills are. The bottom line is Sikhi is all about Sarbath Da Bhalla. Sikhi is the Truth and ideogies which condone supporting slavery, discrimination and pedophilia need to be actively exposed so that people can make an educated decision whether the World is better off the national anthem of Sarbath Da Bhalla or bowing to an Arabic Terrorist Empire run from Mecca. For too long people have said that Hindu's should be good Hindu's and pray to statues of elephant god Ganesh and keep believing in the caste system and Nazi supporters should just be good Nazi's and try to emulate Hitler's positive attributes. We need to educate ourselves and others that Guru Sahib presented a better philosophy for world peace and happiness than Hitler and people like Rishi Manu who oppress Dalits in his so-called holy book ever did.