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Immigration changing Punjab's demographics in interesting ways: Roemer (Wikileaks)

By Vijay Sharma on Wed, 08/31/2011 - 13:05

US politician and Obama's first ambassador Timothy Roemer, a keen observer of demographic trends, rather dramatically describes the changes taking place in the Indian state of Punjab due to immigration from Eastern India and Bangladesh.

Based on his interaction with social and political leaders from the state, Roemer also noted that the Islamic religion -- swept out from Punjab during the Partition -- was also making a return with the migrants.

"Mosques in Punjab, once padlocked after the partition of Indian in 1947 and the ensuing mass exodus of Punjabi Muslims into Pakistan, are reopening and thriving," he said, quoting Pradeep Kashyap, the Vice-Chairman of the US-based American India Foundation.

"It will bear watching how the Punjabi population (and the state government) react if the Muslim call to prayer becomes more pervasive across the state in the years ahead," Roemer said in the February 2010 cable published by Wikileaks.

He was writing to Washington soon after violent clashes between 'locals' and 'outside laborers' in Punjab in December 2009.

Quoting others, Roemer pointed out that if it was the (mostly Dalit) workers from UP and Bihar who came in the first wave of immigration to agricultural Punjab, they are now being replaced by the even cheaper Bangla-speaking Muslims, presumably from Bangladesh.

For now, he points out, it is the economics, rather than religious prejudice, that seems to be winning, going by the acceptance of these laborers in a state that had the bloodiest history of Hindu-Muslim violence during the Partition of India.

"Punjab, on both sides of the border, experienced what we would call ethnic cleansing today. There were almost no Muslims left in Indian Punjab, today, that is no longer true. Partition based on religion seems irrelevant in the face of economics," Roemer quoted Kashyap.

Many Punjabi business owners are grateful for cheap labor, praising migrant laborers for becoming "the backbone of both industry and agriculture in Punjab" after each instance of violent clashes in Punjab, Roemer went on.

"According to the Chamber of Industrial and Commercial Undertakings, Ludhiana alone has 700,000 migrant workers. For Punjab as a whole, the numbers comfortably run in the millions. According to media reports, most of these laborers make between USD $80-$130 a month, and live in dingy rooms with eight to ten occupants to save money.

"Avtar Singh, general secretary of the Chamber of Industrial and Commercial Undertakings said that industry in the city is already facing a 25% labor shortage because migrants had left Punjab fearing increased violence. Industrial and agricultural organizations joined forces and urged greater security for migrant workers from state government officials," Roemer reported.

However, not everyone in Punjab is happy about the change as Roemer also found out.

"Herkawaljit Singh, of the Punjabi language Ajit Group, echoed the discomfort many Punjabis feel with the rise of Muslim and Dalit migrant communities. He told PolOff that the migrants were "culturally different" from Punjabis and did not integrate into mainstream Punjabi society," he pointed out.

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CM loses cool, Waqf chief feels the heat

Vishal Rambani, Hindustan Times Malerkotla, March 04, 2013
First Published: 11:10 IST(4/3/2013) | Last Updated: 11:12 IST(4/3/2013)
Known as a cool customer, chief minister Parkash Singh Badal on Sunday got really hot about state Waqf board chairman Izhar Alam making hate speech in his presence and snubbed him publicly.
For the first time, he looked like disowning the former director general of police, whose wife, Farzana Alam, defeated Congress heavyweight Razia Sultana in the 2012 assembly election here. Upset with Alam, Badal even turned down his request for grant to Muslim institution Imarat-e-Sharia, saying: "I have no money for any unplanned announcement. Send me the plan; I will see."
Speaking before him, Alam had said that Muslims being in significant number in Punjab could swing the election result any way they like and the state government should treat them unfairly. "Muslims are being maltreated," he said. "We are not getting any land for graveyards. The authorities don't listen to us."
"The Muslims of Punjab have stronghold in 20 assembly constituencies, and if they can help a party win elections in the state, they can also defeat it," Alam said, which raised the CM's eyebrows.
The former DGP then embarrassed the government with a remark about the bygone dark days of militancy. "Muslims have a strong bond with Sikhs. Even during militancy it was seen, as the gunmen killed either Hindus or Sikhs but no one touched Muslims," he said, at which the CM got the stage authorities to cut short the former DGP. Alam still had time to pitch for Rs. 50 lakh as donation for Imarat-e-Sharia.
At his turn to speak, the CM not only told Alam that militancy was against all humanity but also reminded him that the "biggest achievement of the government had been that it had ensured communal harmony and peace in the state". Angry, he declined to give any grant for the building Alam had sought. When Alam got up from his chair to interrupt the CM and remind him of the request, the CM snubbed him. "I have no money for gurdwaras, temples or mosques," he said. "Tell me if you have any plan for the community. I will allocate enough money but not announce it here."
To keep his Muslim vote bank intact, the CM said the state would rid the Waqf property of encroachment to enable the board to use the land as source of income for the welfare of the community. Lauding the institution of Imarat-e-Sharia, he said that it would help unite the Muslims.
The CM left the function after only 35 minutes, not giving the community anything. Alam's wife, chief parliamentary secretary Farzana Nisaara Khatoon, later, declared a contribution of Rs. 10 lakh. Sukhdev Singh Dhindsa, member of the Rajya Sabha, also left the programme midway.
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PUNJAB WAQF BOARD TO TAKE UP ISSUE OF GRAVEYARDS WITH CM

Tuesday, 19 February 2013 | PNS | Chandigarh | in Chandigarh


Reeling with the shortage of space to bury its dead, the Punjab State Waqf Board will take up the issue of graveyards with the Chief Minister Parkash Singh Badal.


“Graveyards is a major problem for the Muslim population in villages and this will be discussed with Chief Minister on his visit to Malerkotla along with other issues,” said Waqf Board chairman and former IPS officer Izhar Alam.


The Muslim community in Punjab has been facing the problem of shortage of space. “At times, they have to go as far as 30 km to perform the last rites while a number of times, they also wait for two to three days with the bodies to find some space in the nearest graveyard,” added Alam.


The decision to this effect was taken up during the State-level Muslim conference at Ludhiana’s Dana Mandi.


Besides, a Shariat panchayat has also been set up in the State to decide on matters related to marriage, divorce and inheritance of the community. A Muslim welfare and ‘Shariat’ society was also formed to look after the welfare of Muslims in the State.


The ‘panchayat’ is claimed to be the first common platform for the community in the State since Independence.


In addition, the society will also take up issues related to encroachments on Waqf properties and many others.
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Its interesting that Shiv Sena and RSS are staying quiet on this, normally they do not hesitate to take an anti Muslim line. In fact the Shiv Sena in the Punjab is only making anti Sikh statements as they have put images ridiculing the Guru Sahibs on Facebook.

We do have organisations that are supposed to defend the Sikhs , but as on the Genocide issues they have their cosy agreements with the state and central governments so keep their head down. Its time they were asked if they had dropped the role of defending Sikhs,

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We need a extreme right, Sikh political party along the lines of Shiv Sena and AIMIM (Muslim Majlis party).

Correct we need to make Indian muslims feel the heat they took part in the anti sikh genocide along with the hihdus of the congress party. They always vote congress party (khangress) playing the communal and vote bank politics. Azar alam formed alam sena which was made up of indian punjabi muslims along with others who dressed up as fake Sikh seperatists to kill Sikh youths, their families and other innocents in killing fields of punjab.

Some police officers who took part in extra judicial killings are speaking out now because they see how the indian state has treated them and what the truth was.

The Islamic agenda does not change from country to country even when you think the indian muslim is your brother he is no1's brother except another muslims his agenda is to islamifiy your non-muslim lands and to fight you until the day of judgemental in all aspects political, spiritually, financially, militarily,etc.

This is why even tho i dislike hindu nationliasts they are a better devil than the khangress party whose vote bank is the indian muslim population who are allowed to remain in india while our non-muslim populations in pakistan afghanistan and bangladesh are virtually wiped out by islamo-fascists.

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