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EDL and in particular, the EDL leadership, deserve the 100% support of all civilised mankind, be they Sikh or otherwise. As has been repeatedly said by the EDL, they aren't against Islam per se, but only the Islamic extremists and the extremist <Edited> ideaology that underpins it. Don't be surprised if, in years to come, non-muslims in the UK (and other EU member states) will have to pay a tax, or should I say "jizyah" to live in Great Britain, simply because in 2013 a bunch of spineless Sikhs and so-called Sikh leaders opposed the EDL in the name of so-called "inter-faith" harmony. Grow a backbone! Wake up...and smell the sharia.

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We already pay a form of unofficial Jizya because the people who want to bomb the country tend to be on the dole and it is our taxes that pay for it. Our taxes also pay for the extra security after an attack. A new form of Jizya now will be that after the attack on Mosques, they will now demand that the government pay for CCTV cameras to be installed in each Mosque!

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In my opinion its really important to not start following a group in its hate against Islam just because they flatter Sikhs and Sikhi as Tommy does...

Some people need to ask themselves the question... Do you hate Islam or just Islamic extremists?! People say EDL and Tommy hate just Islamic extremism but his actions and words say something else he speaks against the Koran as if hes a scolar of it and calls it barbaric.... aren't we told in Gurbani not to speak bad of Islam and the Koran? You guys really wanna cheer people that mock Islam/koran and belief system of so many Sufi sants and Muslims who were blessed my our Gurus?!?!?

I love Islam and the people who follow it peacefully, I dont know where you guys have been bought up that you have so much hate for a faith group but I have some of the nicest, humblest Muslim friends and colleagues.... didn't Guru Hargobind Singh Ji build a mosque for Muslims!?... how would our Gurus feel if EDL turned up outside Mosques built by our Gurus and shouted "who the f**k is allah?" and "Muhammed is a peado"? What would people like Pir Buddha Shah say?

I understand that the EDL have reacted to Islamic extremism but I just don't get the mentality on the forum from fellow Sikhs whereby supporting and justifying the EDL has become accepetable... should some of you on this forum find it acceptable to shout slogans of intolerance and hate against Islam and smash up Muslim shops etc then I just dont understand how thats compatible with Sikhi!? Can someone provide me a historical context where our forefathers have launched a premtive strike on a perceived threat or agaisnt Muslims practising Islam?!

In my opinion, any group that attacks places of worship and religious beliefs is wrong! Guru Tegh Bahadur taught us to defend another's faith even if you don't believe it! I hope we can all put this into practice...

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Sikhs need to be wise, edl are/could be using us to help get rid / reduce islam in the uk, but lets be honest if most (not all) goreh had there way we would also be on the first plane out of the uk, its only because our father/brothers stood up to racism in the 60,70,80s and even 90s, that we live these comfortable lives today, how many countries have these goreh left in turmoil and divisions after independence, it was these same people who split punjab and caused mass migration and then stood by and let bloodshed and rape happen and now we forget all of that and think they are our friends there is an old saying that apne bujarg used to say "Gorey pir bi goreh hi ah" in other words you cant trust them. but we live in their country and need to be wise obviously.

We have to be smart because pakistanis/kashmiris (note i dont use muslims because these cowards are not true muslims who follow Allah but finatics who follow a warped ideology by who ever ) have caused all the problems and they groom our children, so they are a big threat and yes maybe we need to side with the edl to rid society of this disease.

But can we trust the likes of edl and can we say that after they get what they want they like there forefathers and like so called hindu leaders/quom wont kick us in the teeth and turn against us, no we can not !!

At the moment we should stand quietly and observe, be present but not heard and if events turn in our favour then get involved and if they do not look to benefit us or are against Gurmat then walk away.

one thing is for sure we can not trust pakistanis/kashmiris at all !!!

Hatred of muslims/islam or any religion is against Gurmat and a no no for any sikh!

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