Respect Of Other Religions

[Only five]

Question for the OP: Which recent material did you find offensive to Islam and Muslims on this forum.

[SikhKosh]

Brothers, it is high time we realise the difference between certain things. Stating the truth is encouraged in Gurbani, even if it hurts. Presenting objectionable facts from the life of Muhammad Ibn Abdullah or other 'revered' figures should be allowed. If we allow people to post info regarding rapes and murders committed by Gurmeet Ram Raheem then why not Muhammad? Just because some of these 'leaders' have a larger following does not mean we have to close our eyes to the major flaws in those religions and their leaders.

Besides it is really important for EVERY single Sikh to have in depth knowledge of other religions for self-preservation and defense purposes. Muslims, Christian missionaries attack Sikhi at every possible instance, it is our duty to know the flaws of these religions to counter these people and inform gullible Sikhs.

Ever wondered why all old rehatnamas say not to trust the word of a Turk? Because our ancestors were aware of the fact that Al Taqiya (lying to disbelievers) is allowed in Islam, so they were warning their fellow brothers.

Dhan Guru Nanak, Dhan his Sikhi - the only Right Path.

[SikhKosh]

Secondly, where in the Guru Granth Sahib is Muhammad or Jesus accepted as a Sant or anything else? This while Sants preceding Guru Nanak Sahib such as Dhru, Prehlad and others are mentioned and accepted. Guru Sahib rejected Islam (pilgrimages, circumcision, Halal, etc) then why should we 'respect' Muhammad, especially seeing the anti-Gurmat and anti-moral life he led indulging in rapes, keeping concubines, massacring tribes?

Islamists always use the argument that our Gurus were mere humans and suffered such terrible deaths (Waheguru forgive for typing this), but when our Sikh brethren know that Muhammad was poisoned by a Jewish woman they can easily shut the Islamists up. I honestly believe that offense is the best defense.

[DalbirSingh]

It's sad to see when we have cases of Sikh minor girls who were victims of muslim grooming gangs people turn their heads and try to call those coming forward ninadaks of muhammad muhammadenism's founder, islamaphobes and haters of muhammdenism.

[Only five]

It really seems as some Sikhs are scared to open up the Koran and start reading. Yet they curse out anyone that says the Koran has offensive material written in it.

[Only five]

Secondly, where in the Guru Granth Sahib is Muhammad or Jesus accepted as a Sant or anything else? This while Sants preceding Guru Nanak Sahib such as Dhru, Prehlad and others are mentioned and accepted. Guru Sahib rejected Islam (pilgrimages, circumcision, Halal, etc) then why should we 'respect' Muhammad, especially seeing the anti-Gurmat and anti-moral life he led indulging in rapes, keeping concubines, massacring tribes?

Islamists always use the argument that our Gurus were mere humans and suffered such terrible deaths (Waheguru forgive for typing this), but when our Sikh brethren know that Muhammad was poisoned by a Jewish woman they can easily shut the Islamists up. I honestly believe that offense is the best defense.

This is the whole point on Muhammad. The Muslims put a twist on Muhammad's life and want rest of the world to believe he was pure and holy. Urban Sikhs don't take the time to read up on Islam and the Koran, yet want others to stay quiet. Many Sikhs curse out Hinduism for worshipping idols, but are completely ignorant of what Muslims are doing in Mecca. Hello, big black stone, walk around in circles, bow to it............what do you think this is

[N30S1NGH]

Sure we should learn or discuss of different religions but while keeping key sidhant of gurmat in mind a) this is your chance to meet gobind b) consider everything as hakum of akaal purakh so why worry? give your self righteous job to Vahiguroo. surrender ourselves to him. c) at the end every thing is perceived as one jot in gurmat so get over it d) the very fact every one will face death at any moment be it sikh, Muslim, Christian, hindu etc make best out of your jeevan. e) don't let outside things effect your peace of mind - man jeeta jag jeet.

I don't know about others but the reality of death itself sends shivers down to my spine. It's like feeling earth quake.. I am sure I can speak for everyone when earthquake hits last thing people have in mind to argue about religions or which one is best.. It's not naturally it does not happen.. That should be our state let akaal purakh worry about his creation in fact he made it and will destroy it in its unique way. and make it again as tamasha.. kaal can strike any moment there is no certainty if next moment we are here or not.

I think biggest difference between us and bhramgyani who teaches dharam or do parchar .. We attach our self righteousness mixed with ego pride makes it an ineffective as we forget to leave it to akaal purakh at the end buy bhramgyani do parchar of Dharam not being attached to it totally nishkam by leaving every thing to akaal purakh hakum.. Everything naturally works out itself.

[DalbirSingh]

This is the whole point on Muhammad. The Muslims put a twist on Muhammad's life and want rest of the world to believe he was pure and holy. Urban Sikhs don't take the time to read up on Islam and the Koran, yet want others to stay quiet. Many Sikhs curse out Hinduism for worshipping idols, but are completely ignorant of what Muslims are doing in Mecca. Hello, big black stone, walk around in circles, bow to it............what do you think this is

We wouldn't really be having this whole thread if people would actually study islam they would come to the same conclusion but should we all be made to be antagonised that we have to read works with pages in the hundreds, in voluminous amounts shouldn't people read bani to find peace instead of un-easing works?

[DalbirSingh]

N30 Why are you afraid of death you read bani don't you? Alot of us don't care that much about death especially at young ages when we really should. Is this whole thread really about being afraid of religious extremists who might try and kill you for having an opinion on their doctrine? Because if that's the case why not refer to how the gurus and gursikhs back in ye old time dealt with it, they said it as it is without a care about death, because truth meant more.

[Only five]

Hold on Dalbir Singh let me start a thread on Sri Chand and his followers called udhasis. Then we can both sit back and see who surrenders to Vaheguru. Everytime fake Babas want to avoid answering a question they say..........leave it to Akal Purakh..............its his Hukam...............etc.

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