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70% of muslims in the UK are mirpuris, additionally I spoke to a few muslims about the origin of punjabi they felt muslims invented it and the sikh gurus were peasants who were using their language and for them they invoke this cultural similarity because the koran calls on finding common terms for the purposes of dawah to convert people, as we are from their perspective following a man made religion which is a rip off of sufi islam and we need to go back to the truth of the koran or burn in hell for ever. For them the influx of arabs and persians who came to give dawah like shakar ganj farid 700 years ago was an example of the language they brought in and we are using the words of them such as shaheed arabic, rab, malik arabic again, ibadiat, khudha (persian), insaaf (arabic), and the list goes on.

Going back to the topic the language relevance only shows demographical who the biggest number of migrants are, collectively punjabi. I'm aware it's not just spoken by sikhs, in many ways the muslims seem to be doing a good job of keeping the language alive, while we corrupt it with pendo mispronunciations in bhangra songs or british mispronunciations. Right now people come in from pakistan either posing as ahmediyas an oppressed sect and then carry on practising their sunni faith, or pretending to be students with bogus schools or on holiday visas and over staying to then do taxi jobs or work in illegal establishments like clothes factories.

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70% of muslims in the UK are mirpuris, additionally I spoke to a few muslims about the origin of punjabi they felt muslims invented it and the sikh gurus were peasants who were using their language and for them they invoke this cultural similarity because the koran calls on finding common terms for the purposes of dawah to convert people, as we are from their perspective following a man made religion which is a rip off of sufi islam and we need to go back to the truth of the koran or burn in hell for ever.

It's very disturbing that most Muslims you will meet actually believe this. They think that Baba Farid Jee was a staunch Muslim and so we Sikhs who read His Bani should all convert to Islam as a result. They don't know that the Baba Farid whose Bani is written in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee was Sheikh Brahm. Khair, we know the reality of Islam and of Sikhism. Their religion takes them to Gian Khand which is temporary, while Sikhi can take a person to the ultimate destination which is Sachkhand.

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It's very disturbing that most Muslims you will meet actually believe this. They think that Baba Farid Jee was a staunch Muslim and so we Sikhs who read His Bani should all convert to Islam as a result. They don't know that the Baba Farid whose Bani is written in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee was Sheikh Brahm. Khair, we know the reality of Islam and of Sikhism. Their religion takes them to Gian Khand which is temporary, while Sikhi can take a person to the ultimate destination which is Sachkhand.

Can you blame them, I hear Sikh interfaith events were Sikhs say we follow a muslim and bow down to our scripture which has the writing of a muslim. The vast majority of gurdwaras are mis preaching, misteaching who sheikh farid is or was. This misconception existed even in the mughal era since 1600s it seems we have had 400 years and we still resolve this misconception.

You can only go to Gian Khan if you have gian can you call someone a giani if they can't recognise the satguru, it can only lead them to karam khand based on actions.

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You know what, Bradistan is currently the subject of another thread. Why not make a trip there?

Ok, now I could think of a thousand and one reasons why you'd want to avoid doing exactly that, but let's say, for illustrative purposes, you've got a few screws loose, so you take a sojourn to lovely Bradford, to see the islamic hell hole for what it is, in order to convey the below point.

You'd hear a lot of Panjabi spoken. But, you wouldn't see many Sikhs speaking it.

That's because the majority of Panjabi speakers, in Bradford, across the UK, and in fact, all over the entire world, are pakistani muslim, and not Sikh at all.

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Shocked?

If you're not, then you're in the minority.

In fact, much of our community is so self contained, that our general misconception that Sikhs hold some kind of monopoly over the Panjabi language, is one of the most common delusions prevalent amongst Panjabi (especially rural) Sikhs.

That, and the other, of course, being our stupid idea that almost all Jatts are Sikhs.

The unholy equation goes something like this:

"Panjabi = Sikh = Jatt".

While readers of this forum would no doubt laugh at the stupidity of anyone who could actually believe that could be true, I could still show you about 90% of people from a certain biraderi who actually still believe that to be true in 2013.

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So many Sikhs, detached from the wider environment that they live in, and furthermore, still stuck in the whole "we're all asian" delusion, enthusiastically quote the fact about Panjabi being one of the most widely spoken second languages in the UK, as if it's a badge of honour for them.

They are comically oblivious to the fact that the statistic is not of their creation, but rather that of their deepest enemy's.

That same enemy that threw their ancestors' babies up in to the air, only to catch them on their wooden spikes, then made garlands of the severed infants' heads to place around the mother of the murdered children's neck, while she was forced to grind corn for the sadistic mohommedans, that so many of our own would assert to be our "panjabi brothers", in evidence of this irrelevant statistic.

Clowns.

Excellent post Jashb Veerji. I'm glad you are one of the Sikhs that realise the 100 million Punjabi Muslim population means we should detach ourselves from Punjabi culture completely and attach our loyalty solely to Gurmat. Liaquat Ali Khan (the 1st Prime Minister of Pakistan) and Sajjan Kumar are two of the most famous Jatts I can think of and the Jatts of Haryana are busy ethnically cleansing Sikhs out of Haryana just like their Jatt brothers from Pakistan who brutally killed Sikhs in 1947. Sikhs have no caste and the more we emphasise that the more young Sikh women might actually marry within the community rather than having the perception that they are from the wrong biraderi when Guru Sahib repeatedly emphasised Kul Nash (as opposed to idiotic gotra pride).

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Excellent post Jashb Veerji. I'm glad you are one of the Sikhs that realise the 100 million Punjabi Muslim population means we should detach ourselves from Punjabi culture completely and attach our loyalty solely to Gurmat. Liaquat Ali Khan (the 1st Prime Minister of Pakistan) and Sajjan Kumar are two of the most famous Jatts I can think of and the Jatts of Haryana are busy ethnically cleansing Sikhs out of Haryana just like their Jatt brothers from Pakistan who brutally killed Sikhs in 1947. Sikhs have no caste and the more we emphasise that the more young Sikh women might actually marry within the community rather than having the perception that they are from the wrong biraderi when Guru Sahib repeatedly emphasised Kul Nash (as opposed to idiotic gotra pride).

jinnah (may curses of Allah SWT be upon him) confessed to being from a brahmin family. Tyler's real name is Jagdish Kapoor, the kapoors aren't jatts they are supposed to be khatris but for our case we will call him a lala who sells bhal pooris or fixes shoes on small stalls.

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jinnah (may curses of Allah SWT be upon him) confessed to being from a brahmin family. Tyler's real name is Jagdish Kapoor, the kapoors aren't jatts they are supposed to be khatris but for our case we will call him a lala who sells bhal pooris or fixes shoes on small stalls.

Jinnah was of Rajput ancestry of Katyawar. It is Iqbal the famous Urdu poet who was of Brahmin ancestry. Sajjan Kumar is a Hindu Jatt. Not sure about tytler though. Tytler's Naanke are Sikh.

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