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Do Moneh Have The Right To Ask Sikh Question Or Talk About Sikhi?


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they can clean but are they equal? Can they talk or ask questions of sikhi or do katha can they get on stage and preach sikhi? can a moneh read an akhand paath?

From personal experience I have seen moneh doing various seva. From doing seva of Maharaj's Takht to seva of participating in an Akhand Paath and langar. When they were doing seva of Maharaj's Takht di seva it was a race to get the job done regardless of how it will look. There was no pyare and sharda put into the seva. Also during an Akhand Paath the moneh was more interested in who was coming and bowing before Maharaj than reading Sri Jap Ji Sahib. Also in the langar hall I have seen moneh rush through langar di seva and the main focus is to get the job done. A phone call comes, pick up the call and start talking while giving out langar. Sitting and talking with many moneh about seva and they say the same thing. Seva is a job.............get it done and leave............so what if sucha is not completely kept.

Katha can only be done by learned individuals. Example is of GS Mann who speaks on Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji and he has a hair cut.

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Katha can only be done by learned individuals. Example is of GS Mann who speaks on Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji and he has a hair cut.

If that's the case why do have so many unlearned people who are keshdhari doing katha ? And why isn't GS Mann invited to more events to do katha on stages? He is very learned but isn't as widely booked as he could be.

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Go ask the Gurdwaras that have these unlearned keshdhari guys doing katha. Well for the most part many Gurdwaras are controlled by people that want to push their views on Sikhs. So they would not have GS Mann come in to teach Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji as many of them don't even accept Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji.

I have also seen moneh come on stage and make a complete fool of themselves on wedding days. These unlearned moneh start singing about worldly entanglements as true love.

Reminds me of the old h dhami doing kirtan in a gurdwara video alot of people thought it was great, he was off note and forgot he was performing in a gurdwara where you are supposed to display utmost humility instead of a nightclub with great confidence and stage presence.

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From personal experience I have seen moneh doing various seva. From doing seva of Maharaj's Takht to seva of participating in an Akhand Paath and langar. When they were doing seva of Maharaj's Takht di seva it was a race to get the job done regardless of how it will look. There was no pyare and sharda put into the seva. Also during an Akhand Paath the moneh was more interested in who was coming and bowing before Maharaj than reading Sri Jap Ji Sahib. Also in the langar hall I have seen moneh rush through langar di seva and the main focus is to get the job done. A phone call comes, pick up the call and start talking while giving out langar. Sitting and talking with many moneh about seva and they say the same thing. Seva is a job.............get it done and leave............so what if sucha is not completely kept.

Katha can only be done by learned individuals. Example is of GS Mann who speaks on Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji and he has a hair cut.

I hope this learned hair cut GS Mann is not allowed to speak in any Gurudwara.

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were punjabi hindu gursewaks disowned as sikhs? Such as the guy who gave hot milk to the chotee shabizaday?

Dalbir Singh Veerji from my understanding all Gurswevaks, though perhaps Hindu and Muslim and Jain originally, were Guru de Sikh ultimately.

For example Baba Moti Ram Mehra was a Guru da Sikh but enemies of our Qaum have transformed his pavithar memory into being thought of as a Hindu Kashyap Rajput. The truth is Moti Ram Mehra Ji was a Guru da Sikh who fought for the Khalsa Panth but suddenly a bunch of crooks are trying to claim Baba as their ancestor.

If this taliban mentality doesnt stop then soon we will have a bhagat sain gurdwara..

I totally agree with the direction of your point Satbachan Veerji but just to remind readers of the Sikh vision of (Kesdhari) Bhagat Sain Ji that we hold (in contrast to our enemies later portraits of Bhagat Sain Ji)

http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.amritsar.com/images/gallery/sain.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.amritsar.com/cgi-bin/Gallery/picture.pl?day%3D30%26month%3D6%26year%3D2005&h=553&w=553&sz=43&tbnid=c_4N4LGBfMOyXM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=90&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dbhagat%2Bsain%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=bhagat+sain&usg=__BxwhFiF7dMoslJbDmQEajZZDtgE=&docid=UQiylAwWpg5IhM&sa=X&ei=FTMMUvilJOO-0QWO84GYCw&ved=0CD4Q9QEwBQ&dur=4623

The great thing about this thread is that the overwhelming majority of the Panth welcome + respect our sehajdhari brothers + sisters to participate more within + on behalf of the Panth in contrast to a small but vocal minority of haters amongst us who want to see the Sikh Panth's population made as small + powerless as possible.

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I've heard people say only a gursikh can do katha otherwise these "lost" sikhs will do kintu printu "confuse" people.

Have a read of what a guru pyareo said on the fb feed of this post:

Sonya Nayun Im a innocent Sikh..I don't drink smoke or eat meat. I pray whenever I can I work for my money. I do roles at the gurudwara but for my fashion I cut my hair...does that mean I'm not Sikh?

Sonya Nayun Sikh is Sikh mona or not. Sikh with a turban who drink alchol and smoke drugs and eat meat why should they have more rights?

I would like to ask, When you cut your hair, do you think of Guru Ji?

Everyone who wants to gain knowledge has the right to ask about Sikhi.

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