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Is 3H0 Based On True Sikhi?


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Please watch the following videos including other parts to it:

In fact I would suggest watching all the videos in the channel for those unsure about the wrong teachings of 3ho.

It is wrong to slander a jathebandi based on a few individuals commiting big violations of sikhi. However it is our duty to be aware of and warn the panth of any organsation which is actually BASED on anti sikh principles. This ex long term member of 3ho has been brave enough to publicly discuss anti sikhi practices of 3ho, especially its founder yogi bhajan.

There was already a great book written on this by Dr Trilochan Singh regarding this issue but many people do not about this. A free pdf version is available online.

However you will always get those with a snatan or vedant "all is one and good" type mindset having a soft spot for 3ho despite the evidence of their main princniples being hugely against the teachings of GuruSahib. Remember this isn't about exposing a random indiviual doing dodgy stuff and then using that as an excuse to attack a panthic jathebandi, this is about being aware of this group 3ho being based on and having teachings and principles which are very much against the teachings of gurbani.

Clever ppl will say this is racist. No it isn't. Infact punjabi ppl normally love white people. So being against 3h0 is NOT being against white sikhs. 3ho have "sikhs" of various ethinicites. Then on the other hand white sikhs are found in other jathebandis so please do not foolishly take being against the teachings of 3h0 as being against anyone who is white.

As this gursikhs in the youtube videos has said - if we don't bring awareness to the panth about their teachings and gross violations of gurmat then they will always be a danger of brainwashing innocent sikhs into their manmat.

This is a worldwide sikh forum and it has a duty to teach correct sikhi and also warn us about any group which is teaching something which is very much against basic sikhi.

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Gursant is an evangelical christian interpreting sikhi from a biblical viewpoint he has lost it, he believes sikh history is corrupted when it mentions tilak and the existence of shiva in gurbani is done by the rss. He thinks all gurdwaras should remove all guru paintings, the gilding on harmandir sahib of icons like the guru should be removed. It could be very possible he is a christian infiltrating sikhs to turn them on each other. He thinks basically all sikhs are lost apart from him and we should give him our hard earned money by buying his book.

This evangelical approach does a great job in pushing people away from christianity I think we don't need that behaviour in sikhi. He has some points about the tantra and yogi bhajans sexualised sikhi but bhajan was preaching his own kundalani stuff. So what alot of our own punjabi sikhs have hodge podge ideas.

5.44 of the 2nd video he talks about yoga having salutation to shiva and to shakti if you read jap sahib it has it as well and he is calling it bad and damaging.

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DalbirSingh ji, thank you for your sensible reply. Firstly finding faults in Gursant Singh is not an excuse to ignore the great violations done by 3ho, so thank you for not doing that.

About Gursant Singh, please provide evidence (a youtube clip of him sayin these things, extract of his book). I don't think a 99cents book is a way to seriously raise money, more like pay for the expenses of publishing and printing. If what you say about him is true then I will have no problem condeming those views, as we should condemn any anti gurmat views no matter who it is and what group they belong to.

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However please do not slander Sri Jap ji Sahib. Nowhere does gurbani salute the hindu god shiva. Gursant Singh was telling us that yogi bhajan was Hindu at heart:

So can you explain why Guru Gobind Singh is insulting us by your view in the dasam granth with the following bani:

Deh siva bar mohe eh-hey subh karman te kabhu na taro.

Na daro arr seo jab jaye laro nischey kar apni jeet karo.

Arr sikh ho apne he mann ko, eh laalach hou gun tau ucharo.

Jab aav ki audh nidan bane att he rann me tabh joojh maro.

Translation: O Lord grant me the boon, that I may never deviate from doing a good deed.

That I shall not fear when I go into combat. And with determination I will be victorious.

That I may teach myself this greed alone, to learn only Thy praises.

And when the last days of my life come, I may die in the might of the battlefield.||231||

-- Guru Gobind Singh

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After almost 600 posts on sikhsangat you have finally openly declared your false views on sikhi. I wonder who else shares these views here.

How can you or anyone else honestly believe, as a sikh, that Guru Gobind Singh ji here is saluting the hindu god shiva?

Well thank you for after 30 posts personally attacking me.

Shiva is just a term in use in bani and similarly people who do yoga don't do it infront of a murti idol

Learn to get past the hindu allergy otherwise you won't grasp gurbani properly

Jap Sahib

siv sakat aap upaa-ay kai kartaa aapay hukam vartaa-ay.
God creates Shiva: God-factor - things with soul, living beings, and Shakti:
Maya: the world, and He puts them under His Command.
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Shiva here does not mean the hindus god shiva. It means Vaheguru just as Guru Jee has used Gopal, Ram, Gobind and other words for Vaheguru in Bani.

I agree with you Jonny101 but gursant and mr hindu allergy don't like anything hindu at all since after all it's associating partners with allah swt or jebus

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DalbirSingh ji, thank you for your sensible reply. Firstly finding faults in Gursant Singh is not an excuse to ignore the great violations done by 3ho, so thank you for not doing that.

About Gursant Singh, please provide evidence (a youtube clip of him sayin these things, extract of his book). I don't think a 99cents book is a way to seriously raise money, more like pay for the expenses of publishing and printing. If what you say about him is true then I will have no problem condeming those views, as we should condemn any anti gurmat views no matter who it is and what group they belong to.

Well I can assure you those were his views until he blocked me in a conversation and I don't have time to do lame screenshots for character assassinations on the internet things like only make a person famous. I don't mind agreeing with him that 3ho is teaching tantra which is manmat. The allegations of yogi bhajan committing adultery is quite common so it's possible but it doesn't bother me since he was a human not a guru and he wouldn't be the first famous sikh to be a hypocrite. 3ho worshipping him with photos shouldn't be respected as for the hodge podge 3hoers doing arti and stuff it all comes down to talking with love not condemning them with youtube clips. Or calling people rss agents sell outs to the indian government, throwing insults, then welcoming all the pendus onboard who don't know what's going on to join in the character bashing of another sikh so as to demonise them.

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