Are Sikhs Descendant Of Hindu God Ramchander ?

[panthicunity]

Since we consider Guru Gobind singh as our father and he descended from sodhis who in turn descended from Luv / Kush (not exactly sure which one ) , we are all descendants of Ram Chander ?

[DalbirSingh]

Hindus come from Sikhs, the devangari script and great hindu stories were reformed after 1947 and if there was no guru gobind singh there would be no hindus today they would all be muslims praying towards mecca.

we all have ancestors and our ancestors aren't always important we learn from suraj prakash granth and dasam granth of this bedi sodhi linege from ram chander. So what, in mahabharat families were at war with one another, guru nanaks own children didn't follow sikhi. Members of the sodhi family attacked the gurus and sikhs, some formed their own cults.

As for Luv and Kush bedis come from one the sodhis come from the other they are both related to Sita (since one of them was miraculously created or had another biological father possibly valmiki after ram abadoned her). Or luv and kush could be twins and the ramayan is poorly translated. Valmki is seen as a brahma avtar and ram is a vishnu avtar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lava_(Ramayana)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kusha_(Ramayana)

Sikhs are descendents of akal purkh, akal purkh ordered the gurus to come from such biological origin.

[jasdeepsingh2k125]

Hindus come from Sikhs, the devangari script and great hindu stories were reformed after 1947 and if there was no guru gobind singh there would be no hindus today they would all be muslims praying towards mecca.

this

nai mai kahu ab ki na tab ki, agar na hote guru gobind singh to sunat hoti sabke

dhan sri guru gobind singh ji sahib maharaj :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect:

[DalbirSingh]

this

nai mai kahu ab ki na tab ki, agar na hote guru gobind singh to sunat hoti sabke

dhan sri guru gobind singh ji sahib maharaj :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect:

forget bulleh shah, it's all about the 10th guru and puratan shaheed singhs

[scali]

Baba Maha Harnam Singh Murshad of Baba Nand Singh ji himself said that he was Ramchadar ji in one of his previous lives. He spend all his life preaching the word of Guru Nanak. Consciousness raiser its bar everytime it manifests again.

[Shamshere]

Look sometimes we Sikhs go overboard with claims like there would be no Hindus without Sikhs. South India wasn't really affected by the Moghul empire.

[Singh559]

Look sometimes we Sikhs go overboard with claims like there would be no Hindus without Sikhs. South India wasn't really affected by the Moghul empire.

Can't tell of not serious or if not serious.

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[Jonny101]

Look sometimes we Sikhs go overboard with claims like there would be no Hindus without Sikhs. South India wasn't really affected by the Moghul empire.

The greatness of the Sikhs is not only that they uprooted the Mughal and Afghan empire, but the fact that they acted as an iron wall to the path of central asian hordes who went through Punjab to loot India. Even historian Hari Ram Gupta noted this as the main reason why Mughal empire finished is because of lack of Turkic and Afghan warriors in their armies, as a result they had to recruit and rely on the Indian Muslims who were physically weaker and not as aggressive as the central Asian warriors. With lack of fresh soldiers from central Asia to replenish the Muslim armies of India, the Muslim rulers could not resist popular uprisings through out India.

You mentioned South India, did you know Tipu Sultan's empire was in South India. He had a strong army. He was also a fanatical Muslim who forcibly converted many South Indians to Islam. He like all the other Muslim rulers of India had sent letters after letters to the Afghans to invade India in order to crush the non-Muslims and replenish their armies with tough Pathan warriors. But you know why the Afghans could not come to India? it is because Sikhs would not allow them to pass through Punjab. Sikhs deserve most of the credit for ending Islamic rule over India.

This is old history, even the recent Indo Pak wars. Sikhs soldiers were the deciding factors for which India did not lose territory to Pakistan. Int he first Kashmir war, the tribal Pathan army would have conquered all of j&K state had it not been for the Sikh soldiers stopping them because the coward Dogra army could not face the Pathan insurgents and began to run away instead of fighting. The Sikhs would have reconquered all of J&K state back but nehru stopped them from advancing any further. The 1965 war, the Hindu generals had told Gen Harbaksh Singh to retreat and give up all the territory up to the river Beas. But Gen Harbaksh Singh refused to follow this order because by doing so would have meant the Pakistanis would have conquered Amritsar which had Sri Darbar Sahib and this was unacceptable for the Sikhs. So Indian army(actually Sikh army) under Gen Harbaksh Singh prevented the Pakistani army from taking over such a large chunk of Indian territory. India owes a lot to the Sikhs. Unfortunately the Hindus have forgotten all this and rather than thanking the Sikhs they attacked us in 1984 and carried out the Sikh genocide.

[Mehtab Singh]

The 1965 war, the Hindu generals had told Gen Harbaksh Singh to retreat and give up all the territory up to the river Beas. But Gen Harbaksh Singh refused to follow this order because by doing so would have meant the Pakistanis would have conquered Amritsar which had Sri Darbar Sahib and this was unacceptable for the Sikhs. So Indian army(actually Sikh army) under Gen Harbaksh Singh prevented the Pakistani army from taking over such a large chunk of Indian territory.

The javaans of the Sikh regiment were clearly told that the time for Shaheedi has arrived. Not a single one stepped back. They tied anti tank mines on their stomachs and ran towards the US made Patton tanks which the Pak army had. These Singhs had themselves blown into pieces and also shred those tanks to bits, thus causing the Pakis to retreat.

[N30S1NGH]

Well Gurmat is anadi so we should not be shy to present sikhi as - aad sach, jugad sach, hai bhi sach, nanak hosi bhi sach as sikhi is based on sach, paramatma is sach and that sach is radiant in everyone from all ages-yugas instead of presenting sikhi as abhramic, evangelic, protestant faith, faith of kalyug confined by time/age, organized "ism" so technically famous devi devtas were sikhs of aad sach, jugad sach, hai bhi sach, nanak hosi bhi sach -nirgun nanak. We should use term - nanak nirgun more often to do parchar, this along with vahiguroo -68 arth parchar will literally destroy rss arguments but we are highly parnioa bunch to the point rss does not need to do anything- they let rat of hyper parniao loose and they are just sitting back with popcorns and coke enjoying the show seeing insecure highly parnoia sikhs destroying their own hertiage and history- hostile factions already destroyed frescos in ithashik gurdwaras now they are targetting sri dasam granth, bhai gurdas ji varan next it will be puratan manuscripts of sri guru granth sahib and sri dasam granth sahib with pictures of indic religious sikh devi devtas....!!!

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