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Sikhi and islam is not at all similar. Sikhi is about joining Gods presence wheras islam is about subjugation of women under man. Sikhi is good, free from hatred and love for all Gods creation is paramount. islam is evil, full of hate and dislike of Gods creation. Just two massive difference.

Wherever there is war there is islam.

A muslim and Sikh can never marry. It may be allowed in islam but it is NOT in Sikhi. There should be no confusing this. If you dont believe me ask any Amritdari Sikh.

Thus your relationship is futile and i cannot understand why you would want it to continue.

Sikhs love Guru Ji above all things, including this thing you call Love.

This has nothing to do with the india-pak division.

It is common knowledge now that muslim boys have been paid to groom Sikh girls and convert them........if that doesnt sound EVIL to you then you must be a demon!

The Sikhs will only tolerate islams foolessness for so long!

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@meera

Sikhi and islam is not at all similar. Sikhi is about joining Gods presence wheras islam is about subjugation of women under man. Sikhi is good, free from hatred and love for all Gods creation is paramount. islam is evil, full of hate and dislike of Gods creation. Just two massive difference.

Wherever there is war there is islam.

A muslim and Sikh can never marry. It may be allowed in islam but it is NOT in Sikhi. There should be no confusing this. If you dont believe me ask any Amritdari Sikh.

Thus your relationship is futile and i cannot understand why you would want it to continue.

Sikhs love Guru Ji above all things, including this thing you call Love.

This has nothing to do with the india-pak division.

It is common knowledge now that muslim boys have been paid to groom Sikh girls and convert them........if that doesnt sound EVIL to you then you must be a demon!

The Sikhs will only tolerate islams foolessness for so long!

According to Islam, a muslim cannot marry a non muslim. The latter would have to convert to Islam to do so.

It is only the pseudo Sikhs who have grown so weak in their faith that they marry muslims, hindus, christians and the lot.

This is the reason why Sikhs are getting fewer in numbers and Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world today.

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Most muslim girls envy their Sikh girls mates in the way they have much more freedom over their lives and the rights they have in sikhi compared to Islam, Muslim girls know themselves that islam means submission and not peace, therefore they are submitting to the will of muhammad (or allah however you want to see it). So to target muslim girls for conversion to Sikhi should be a vital strategic step Sikh organisations need to look at ensuring social cohesive puristic society.

Muslim girls and guys do try to convert their Sikh girl mates to islam using underhand tactics of sugar coating islam and not showing them the full picture of islam such as verses on 72 virgins for men but nothing like that for women, rivers of wine in heaven, 4 witnesses needed before rape can be proved, men can marry 4 wives women cant have 4 husbands, men can marry non-muslim women but muslim women cannot marry a non-muslim, etc,etc

The problem we Sikhs are having is is not promoting Sikhism enough and letting the promoters of islam take over.

Sikhism has a brand awareness and marketing issue, once thats resolved you will see the numbers increase.

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Thank you for your reply, The answer I was expecting.

In other words, you were just trolling to get a reaction.

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In other words, you were just trolling to get a reaction.

No, exactly what I have said. It was the answer I was expecting.

In other words, you were just trolling to get a reaction.

This is your opinion.

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oh tuhada bhala hoje !!!



Cairo: Here’s the latest wacky fatwa out of Egypt. An Egyptian preacher made headlines after he issued a controversial fatwa (religious proclamation) giving a man the right to peep on his future wife while she is showering before he marries her.

Usama al-Qawsi, a salafist preacher, confidently stated in a video that it is acceptable for a man to “hide” while watching his wife-to-be shower as long as his intentions are “pure.”

'If you were really honest and wanted to marry that woman, and you were able to hide and watch her in secret, see the things that she wouldn’t usually let you see before marrying her, then it is acceptable as long as your intentions are pure," he said.

In Islam, women are forbidden to reveal parts of their body other than their hands and faces to males, except to their husbands and direct family members.

His provocative fatwa was quickly rejected by the Egyptian Minister of Religious Endowments Mohammad Mukhtar.

"Where is the glory and masculinity in watching a woman shower? Would you allow this to happen to your daughter? If it was OK with you then it isn’t with the conservative, civilized Muslim and Christian societies – they disapprove of it. Besides, Islam preaches that modesty should be in our nature and all religions concur." he was quoted as saying by Al Bawaba, a Jordan-based English-language news network.

http://www.sify.com/news/its-okay-to-spy-on-women-who-are-showering-egyptian-imam-news-topnews-oiulCdaihggjg.html

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This problem has always been not about non practising sikhs but about the leniency shown by Sikhs in general to these events. Now if a sikh decides to marry a muslim thats fine but the ceremony cannot be performed in a gurdwara they should have a civil one because they are not practising sikhs, the difficulty comes with moneh who are not practising but i believe they can have their marriage in a gurdwara because they truly accept Guru ji as their father, whereas a muslim is just bowing for the sake of ritual. We need more gurdwara to instigate marraige counselling previous to a marriage and to make sure that both parties understand what is expected of them. We need to stop posting on these forums and get involved in our local gurdwara to make sure that they fully understand that these gurdwara are going to be run by us with sikh logical not some pindu money grabbing mentality.

Another point:

Rehat states quite clearly that a sikh should marry another sikh but it does not state about children being bought up practising sikhi, children should be given all the tools to DECIDE what religion if any they wish to follow we are not trying to indoctrinate our children to follow sikhi instead we are raising them in a sikh household and providing them information so they may CHOOSE for themselves. If we continue to try and play this numbers game our religion will suffer because of it (just look at how many problems the muslim community have)

how do you know this? they may not accept guru ji as their father. maybe some do and some dont

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Phenji please see you can not be a Muslim and marry a Sikh as this is against your faith, actually mentioned in the Holy Quran. Either you decide your faith is too important and put your feelings towards this guy aside or you decide to follow him TRULY (and this means giving up any claims on being muslim, by which you automatically did when you decided to have a relationship with anyone other than a muslim) into his faith (In theory of course he could convert to your faith, but if he is a Sikh worth his salt he wouldnt trade his desire to be with Akal Purak to be with any one. Bringing up kids up would be difficult with two faith systems in the house would cause confusion, so if you do decide you both are not goingt o follow your faiths then the children would be brought up as secular, which would be the greatest shame. Please think long and hard about this situation because if you dont these problems will resurface later, when culture and extended family come to play a part...and this could be more distructive than you can even imagine in this 'in love' phase of your relationship. In faith you can't pick and chose what we accept when its written in black. I''m sorry and don't mean to cause offence but out of respect for Islam and Sikhi, its important to spell it out. Its not a question of saying 'I'm Sikh' you have to actually live it and want to be back with God.

she is already married to her sikh husband, do you propose they get divorced?

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This mona is more Punjabi than Sikh. What has he done to deserve to be married in a Gurdwara?

Simply by being a Mona he is an affront to SGGS he bows before!

All mona are hypocrites.

i wonder how many weddings their would take place in a gurdwara if this way of thinking was implemented? would probably lead to either a split in the sangat or a greatly reduced number of sikh adherents - more likely both.

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I'm not usually a violent person but i would slap any so called Sikhs face who claims Sikhs can marry non-sikhs and its in the religion to do so.

These so called lily liberal hippys posing as Sikhs need to be ex-communisted from the faith and put on a blacklist so that all Sikhs can see what their views are and how they are deteredmind to decreasee our demographics by inter-faith weddings and relationships. May waheguru curse them and their families for daring to even suggest interfaith relationship with Sikhs is ok.

Sikh females are particular vulnerable to grooming by non-sikh guys if they are brought up in a household where traditional Sikh values are not taught and where the izzat of a woman her self respect is not engrained in her. We need to be doing alot more converting Jewish, Christian and Muslim women into Sikhism because alot of them are following the vile abrahmic ideologies. Hindu women usually assimulate into Sikhi quite nicely thats why there isnt much an issue with marrying hindus however they need to be taught that kids will be raised as Sikhs and idol worship must be stopped if they marry a Sikh guy otherwise their kids become those lilly liberal hippy Sikhs that create the problem with inter-faith relationships we seem to have at present.

If a person wants to marry a non-sikh they MUST convert must embrace Sikhism must raise their kids in the Sikh faith otherwise dont even try it or you will get a rejection from gurdwara commitee's. We need more vocal more proactive not decrease it because its only with being strong on these issues does our faith prosper when we go all lilly liberal then our community is the loosers and other damaging ideologies and sly faith communities are the winners in these outcomes.

so you would commit violence against someone who held a different view from yourself? is this not what was happening in india (and is still happening the world over) at the time of the gurus? and did they not fight against it so that people may practice their beliefs in peace?

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Whats with all the hate against Muslims?

Muslims and Sikhs are like the closest people out there...specially in the United States, Muslim Punjabs and Sikhs are literally like one community.

So everyone needs to calm down.

Don't let internet stories, media, and stereotypes blind you.

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Whats with all the hate against Muslims?

Whats with all the grooming gangs out there?

Muslims and Sikhs are like the closest people out there...specially in the United States, Muslim Punjabs and Sikhs are literally like one community.

No we are not. Of course we are really good friends without a doubt (Sikhs and Punjabi Muslims) but we are not one community, and we do NOT inter-marry.

Don't let internet stories, media, and stereotypes blind you.

So you mean we wait until trouble knocks on our door? Edited by Mehtab Singh

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Whats with all the grooming gangs out there?

Criminals.

Ironically, Sikh criminals have harmed Sikh community trillion times more than Muslim grooming gangs.

Moreover, those "Muslim" grooming gangs are just like any other criminal gangs..they groom their own kuriyan too. Criminals don't do crimes by keeping their religion in mind. They only have one thing in mind: Crime

No we are not. Of course we are really good friends without a doubt (Sikhs and Punjabi Muslims) but we are not one community, and we do NOT inter-marry.

Nobody is talking about Inter-marriage. But this useless hate against Muslims is bad. A lot more apniyan marry with Christian boys compared with Muslim boys. But all I see is hate towards Muslims.

May be because it is convenient to bash Muslims these days...

So you mean we wait until trouble knocks on our door?

There isn't any trouble on the door. Specially not from Muslims.

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Sikh criminals have harmed Sikh community trillion times more than Muslim grooming gangs.

But not in the name of religion.

this useless hate against Muslims is bad.

all I see is hate towards Muslims.

May be because it is convenient to bash Muslims these days...

Perhaps time for some introspection then?

There isn't any trouble on the door. Specially not from Muslims.

Thanks, but you don't get to decide that I am sorry. The ones on the receiving end do.
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Criminals.

Ironically, Sikh criminals have harmed Sikh community trillion times more than Muslim grooming gangs.

Moreover, those "Muslim" grooming gangs are just like any other criminal gangs..they groom their own kuriyan too. Criminals don't do crimes by keeping their religion in mind. They only have one thing in mind: Crime

Nobody is talking about Inter-marriage. But this useless hate against Muslims is bad. A lot more apniyan marry with Christian boys compared with Muslim boys. But all I see is hate towards Muslims.

May be because it is convenient to bash Muslims these days...

There isn't any trouble on the door. Specially not from Muslims.

agree with what you say. criminals are criminals, every society has them. just as every society has charity workers and teachers. muslims outnumber sikhs 65 to 1 worldwide so we are bound to hear more bad stories about muslims than sikhs. big changes are taking place and inter faith marriages are on the increase, there is no stopping it.

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