Ugh Need Some Help: Battling With My Identity

[Guest scali]

Belief creates ones reality. GOD loves us all whatever path we choose, his love is not conditional. Gods always says yes to your beliefs and bring forth what you want to experience. You beliieve in your sponsring thought gives you your experience. All experience are allowed, GOD love for us lets us have any experience, its a matter of where you place your belief Atheist, Agnostic...... any experience is allowed. If ones belief hair is not necessary, one will attract all the energies in universe for him to validate his/her belief. You are a creator of your own reality. GOD wants us to come to him out of our free will, wanting to experience him, not his illusion(maya). Sikhi Marg believes Satguru Gurparsad is necessary on your way to GOD. As says in Sukhmani sahib "Bis Biswe Gur Ka Man Manhe. So jan parmeshwer ki gat jane". Full faith in Satguru is necessary. In Sikhi Amrit is a mandatory clause.

[Guest]

ਜੈ ਜੈ ਹੋਸੀ ਮਹਿਖਾਸੁਰਿ ਮਰਦਨ ਰੰਮ ਕਪਰਦਲ ਛਤ੍ਰ ਛਿਤੇ ॥੧॥੨੧੧॥
जै जै होसी महिखासुरि मरदन रम कपरदल छत्र छिते ॥१॥२११॥
Hail, hail, the Canopy of the world, the slayer of Mahishasura, wearing the knot of elegant long hair on Thy head

ਅਛੈ ਅਖੰਡੇ ਤੇਜ ਪ੍ਰਚੰਡੇ ਖੰਡ ਉਦੰਡੇ ਅਲਖ ਮਤੇ ॥
अछै अखंडे तेज प्रचंडे खंड उदंडे अलख मते ॥
Thy intellect is incomprehensible, Thou art Immortal, Indivisible, Supremely Glorious and Unpunishable Entity.

ਜੈ ਜੈ ਹੋਸੀ ਮਹਿਖਾਸੁਰਿ ਮਰਦਨ ਰੰਮ ਕਪਰਦਲ ਛਤ੍ਰ ਛਿਤੇ ॥੧॥੨੧੧॥
जै जै होसी महिखासुरि मरदन रम कपरदल छत्र छिते ॥१॥२११॥
Hail, hail, the Canopy of the world, the slayer of Mahishasura, wearing the knot of elegant long hair on Thy head. 1.211.

[hsingh68]

ਅੰਤੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਬੋਲਿਆ ਮੈ ਪਿਛੈ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਕਰਿਅਹੁ ਨਿਰਬਾਣੁ ਜੀਉ ॥

अंते सतिगुरु बोलिआ मै पिछै कीरतनु करिअहु निरबाणु जीउ ॥

Anṯe saṯgur boli▫ā mai picẖẖai kīrṯan kari▫ahu nirbāṇ jī▫o.

Finally, the True Guru said, "When I am gone, sing Kirtan in Praise of the Lord, in Nirvaanaa".

ਕੇਸੋ ਗੋਪਾਲ ਪੰਡਿਤ ਸਦਿਅਹੁ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਕਥਾ ਪੜਹਿ ਪੁਰਾਣੁ ਜੀਉ ॥

केसो गोपाल पंडित सदिअहु हरि हरि कथा पड़हि पुराणु जीउ ॥

Keso gopāl pandiṯ saḏi▫ahu har har kathā paṛėh purāṇ jī▫o.

Call in the long-haired scholarly Saints of the Lord, to read the sermon of the Lord, Har, Har.

ਹਰਿ ਕਥਾ ਪੜੀਐ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਸੁਣੀਐ ਬੇਬਾਣੁ ਹਰਿ ਰੰਗੁ ਗੁਰ ਭਾਵਏ ॥

हरि कथा पड़ीऐ हरि नामु सुणीऐ बेबाणु हरि रंगु गुर भावए ॥

Har kathā paṛī▫ai har nām suṇī▫ai bebāṇ har rang gur bẖāv▫e.

Read the sermon of the Lord, and listen to the Lord's Name; the Guru is pleased with love for the Lord.

ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਤਲਿ ਕਿਰਿਆ ਦੀਵਾ ਫੁਲ ਹਰਿ ਸਰਿ ਪਾਵਏ ॥

पिंडु पतलि किरिआ दीवा फुल हरि सरि पावए ॥

Pind paṯal kiri▫ā ḏīvā ful har sar pāv▫e.

Do not bother with offering rice-balls on leaves, lighting lamps, and other rituals like floating the body out on the Ganges; instead, let my remains be given up to the Lord's Pool.

ਹਰਿ ਭਾਇਆ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਬੋਲਿਆ ਹਰਿ ਮਿਲਿਆ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਸੁਜਾਣੁ ਜੀਉ ॥

हरि भाइआ सतिगुरु बोलिआ हरि मिलिआ पुरखु सुजाणु जीउ ॥

Har bẖā▫i▫ā saṯgur boli▫ā har mili▫ā purakẖ sujāṇ jī▫o.

The Lord was pleased as the True Guru spoke; he was blended then with the all-knowing Primal Lord God.

ਰਾਮਦਾਸ ਸੋਢੀ ਤਿਲਕੁ ਦੀਆ ਗੁਰ ਸਬਦੁ ਸਚੁ ਨੀਸਾਣੁ ਜੀਉ ॥੫॥

रामदास सोढी तिलकु दीआ गुर सबदु सचु नीसाणु जीउ ॥५॥

Rāmḏās sodẖī ṯilak ḏī▫ā gur sabaḏ sacẖ nīsāṇ jī▫o. ||5||

The Guru then blessed the Sodhi Ram Das with the ceremonial tilak mark, the insignia of the True Word of the Shabad. ||5||

Still doesn't say you got to keep kes it talks about pandits who had long hair who did katha of god. And....

[hsingh68]

ਜੈ ਜੈ ਹੋਸੀ ਮਹਿਖਾਸੁਰਿ ਮਰਦਨ ਰੰਮ ਕਪਰਦਲ ਛਤ੍ਰ ਛਿਤੇ ॥੧॥੨੧੧॥

जै जै होसी महिखासुरि मरदन रम कपरदल छत्र छिते ॥१॥२११॥

Hail, hail, the Canopy of the world, the slayer of Mahishasura, wearing the knot of elegant long hair on Thy head

ਅਛੈ ਅਖੰਡੇ ਤੇਜ ਪ੍ਰਚੰਡੇ ਖੰਡ ਉਦੰਡੇ ਅਲਖ ਮਤੇ ॥

अछै अखंडे तेज प्रचंडे खंड उदंडे अलख मते ॥

Thy intellect is incomprehensible, Thou art Immortal, Indivisible, Supremely Glorious and Unpunishable Entity.

ਜੈ ਜੈ ਹੋਸੀ ਮਹਿਖਾਸੁਰਿ ਮਰਦਨ ਰੰਮ ਕਪਰਦਲ ਛਤ੍ਰ ਛਿਤੇ ॥੧॥੨੧੧॥

जै जै होसी महिखासुरि मरदन रम कपरदल छत्र छिते ॥१॥२११॥

Hail, hail, the Canopy of the world, the slayer of Mahishasura, wearing the knot of elegant long hair on Thy head. 1.211.

You are talking about rishi's who had a top knot and what. Buddhists shave their hair. It doesnt matter what you do. The hair is temporary and part of maya it will perish in the end. Love God and do good actions and live by the truth. Thats what matters.

[Guest]

You are talking about rishi's who had a top knot and what. Buddhists shave their hair. It doesnt matter what you do. The hair is temporary and part of maya it will perish in the end. Love God and do good actions and live by the truth. Thats what matters.

Its talking about how waheguru has long hair.Not some rishi.

You yourself in another post said that rehitnamas said to keep hair.

[hsingh68]

Its talking about how waheguru has long hair.Not some rishi.

You yourself in another post said that rehitnamas said to keep hair.

God is everything so he has hair, yet he has no hair so he can be the bald person as well. He is everything how can you limit him to only having hair.

[Guest]

ਮੇਰੋ ਬਾਪੁ ਮਾਧਉ ਤੂ ਧਨੁ ਕੇਸੌ ਸਾਂਵਲੀਓ ਬੀਠੁਲਾਇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

मेरो बापु माधउ तू धनु केसौ सांवलीओ बीठुलाइ ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥

Mero bāp māḏẖa▫o ṯū ḏẖan kesou sāʼnvlī▫o bīṯẖulā▫e. ||1|| rahā▫o.

O my Father, Lord of wealth, blessed are You, long-haired, dark-skinned, my darling. ||1||Pause||

ਕਰ ਧਰੇ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਤੇ ਆਏ ਗਜ ਹਸਤੀ ਕੇ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਉਧਾਰੀਅਲੇ ॥

कर धरे चक्र बैकुंठ ते आए गज हसती के प्रान उधारीअले ॥

Kar ḏẖare cẖakar baikunṯẖ ṯe ā▫e gaj hasṯī ke parān uḏẖārī▫ale.

You hold the steel chakra in Your hand; You came down from Heaven, and saved the life of the elephant.

ਦੁਹਸਾਸਨ ਕੀ ਸਭਾ ਦ੍ਰੋਪਤੀ ਅੰਬਰ ਲੇਤ ਉਬਾਰੀਅਲੇ ॥੧॥

दुहसासन की सभा द्रोपती अम्बर लेत उबारीअले ॥१॥

Ḏuhsāsan kī sabẖā ḏaropaṯī ambar leṯ ubārī▫ale. ||1||

In the court of Duhsaasan, You saved the honor of Dropati, when her clothes were being removed. ||1||

ਗੋਤਮ ਨਾਰਿ ਅਹਲਿਆ ਤਾਰੀ ਪਾਵਨ ਕੇਤਕ ਤਾਰੀਅਲੇ ॥

गोतम नारि अहलिआ तारी पावन केतक तारीअले ॥

Goṯam nār ahli▫ā ṯārī pāvan keṯak ṯārī▫ale.

You saved Ahliyaa, the wife of Gautam; how many have You purified and carried across?

ਐਸਾ ਅਧਮੁ ਅਜਾਤਿ ਨਾਮਦੇਉ ਤਉ ਸਰਨਾਗਤਿ ਆਈਅਲੇ ॥੨॥੨॥

ऐसा अधमु अजाति नामदेउ तउ सरनागति आईअले ॥२॥२॥

Aisā aḏẖam ajāṯ nāmḏe▫o ṯa▫o sarnāgaṯ ā▫ī▫ale. ||2||2||

Such a lowly outcaste as Naam Dayv has come seeking Your Sanctuary. ||2||2|

[hsingh68]

ਮੇਰੋ ਬਾਪੁ ਮਾਧਉ ਤੂ ਧਨੁ ਕੇਸੌ ਸਾਂਵਲੀਓ ਬੀਠੁਲਾਇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

मेरो बापु माधउ तू धनु केसौ सांवलीओ बीठुलाइ ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥

Mero bāp māḏẖa▫o ṯū ḏẖan kesou sāʼnvlī▫o bīṯẖulā▫e. ||1|| rahā▫o.

O my Father, Lord of wealth, blessed are You, long-haired, dark-skinned, my darling. ||1||Pause||

ਕਰ ਧਰੇ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਤੇ ਆਏ ਗਜ ਹਸਤੀ ਕੇ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਉਧਾਰੀਅਲੇ ॥

कर धरे चक्र बैकुंठ ते आए गज हसती के प्रान उधारीअले ॥

Kar ḏẖare cẖakar baikunṯẖ ṯe ā▫e gaj hasṯī ke parān uḏẖārī▫ale.

You hold the steel chakra in Your hand; You came down from Heaven, and saved the life of the elephant.

ਦੁਹਸਾਸਨ ਕੀ ਸਭਾ ਦ੍ਰੋਪਤੀ ਅੰਬਰ ਲੇਤ ਉਬਾਰੀਅਲੇ ॥੧॥

दुहसासन की सभा द्रोपती अम्बर लेत उबारीअले ॥१॥

Ḏuhsāsan kī sabẖā ḏaropaṯī ambar leṯ ubārī▫ale. ||1||

In the court of Duhsaasan, You saved the honor of Dropati, when her clothes were being removed. ||1||

ਗੋਤਮ ਨਾਰਿ ਅਹਲਿਆ ਤਾਰੀ ਪਾਵਨ ਕੇਤਕ ਤਾਰੀਅਲੇ ॥

गोतम नारि अहलिआ तारी पावन केतक तारीअले ॥

Goṯam nār ahli▫ā ṯārī pāvan keṯak ṯārī▫ale.

You saved Ahliyaa, the wife of Gautam; how many have You purified and carried across?

ਐਸਾ ਅਧਮੁ ਅਜਾਤਿ ਨਾਮਦੇਉ ਤਉ ਸਰਨਾਗਤਿ ਆਈਅਲੇ ॥੨॥੨॥

ऐसा अधमु अजाति नामदेउ तउ सरनागति आईअले ॥२॥२॥

Aisā aḏẖam ajāṯ nāmḏe▫o ṯa▫o sarnāgaṯ ā▫ī▫ale. ||2||2||

Such a lowly outcaste as Naam Dayv has come seeking Your Sanctuary. ||2||2|

That describes when God came as krishna and that is one form. But another form is buddha? Bald he was

[hsingh68]

ਕਬੀਰ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਇਕ ਸਿਉ ਕੀਏ ਆਨ ਦੁਬਿਧਾ ਜਾਇ ॥
Kabīr parīṯ ik si▫o kī▫e ān ḏubiḏẖā jā▫e.
Kabeer, when you are in love with the One Lord, duality and alienation depart.

ਭਾਵੈ ਲਾਂਬੇ ਕੇਸ ਕਰੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਘਰਰਿ ਮੁਡਾਇ ॥੨੫॥
Bẖāvai lāʼnbe kes kar bẖāvai gẖarar mudā▫e. ||25||
You may have long hair, or you may shave your head bald. ||25||

In the above kabeer is saying it doesn't matter if your bald or shave your hair. Only the love for God matters

[Guest]

peace preachers, on 04 Sept 2012 - 08:28, said:

is there anything written about keeping hair and beard for sikhs in guru granth sahib?
a person should be sikh from heart or from is looks ????????

the much easier way is to loose the dastaar means cut ur hair , will be much easier to get up and get ready ,, ,,, gurus always told us to be non superstitious and nowdays sikhs are the most superstitious poeple we see arround,,,in now days times there is no need of a sikh swaroop , one should try to be true sikh from heart and not by looks ,,,

No there isn't in the GGS but in the rehatnamas there are.

Those were your words

ਕਬੀਰ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਇਕ ਸਿਉ ਕੀਏ ਆਨ ਦੁਬਿਧਾ ਜਾਇ ॥
Kabīr parīṯ ik si▫o kī▫e ān ḏubiḏẖā jā▫e.
Kabeer, when you are in love with the One Lord, duality and alienation depart.

ਭਾਵੈ ਲਾਂਬੇ ਕੇਸ ਕਰੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਘਰਰਿ ਮੁਡਾਇ ॥੨੫॥
Bẖāvai lāʼnbe kes kar bẖāvai gẖarar mudā▫e. ||25||
You may have long hair, or you may shave your head bald. ||25||

In the above kabeer is saying it doesn't matter if your bald or shave your hair. Only the love for God matters

I could become like you and say we shouldnt take gurbani so literally