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http://www.sikhreview.org/january2008/demography.htm

What if we somehow managed to get these 12.24 crore forgotten Sikhs counted as Sikhs and not as Hindus in the Indian population census? That would spontaneously hike up the Sikh numbers from 2.5 crores to some 15 crores? Then the number of Hindus would fall to some 75 crores. Muslims are already at some odd 20 crores or so.

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Some good discussion guys. I was listening to shalok nauvan earlier, came across with following cautionary bachans regarding this jagat and jagat being dream from shalok nauvan.


So i guess main question here comes down to how do we reconcile the bachans below with lots of sikhs including me (off course) getting caught up/getting too excited in overall discussion of sikh raaj?


Don't get me wrong i am in full support for sikh raaj. However, perhaps the cautionary bachans below and gurmukh maya vich udaasi vak of gurbani should suffice hand in hand with discussion of sikh raaj so that we get nirlaip(de-attached) from this jagat while being in sikh raaj (ultimately meant to created for benefit of man kind) , so that we don't get too much caught up in it and ended up wearing off our internal bhagti ras and our inner state of bairaag/tyaag and nirlaipta.



ਜਿਉ ਸੁਪਨਾ ਅਰੁ ਪੇਖਨਾ ਐਸੇ ਜਗ ਕਉ ਜਾਨਿ ॥

ਇਨ ਮੈ ਕਛੁ ਸਾਚੋ ਨਹੀ ਨਾਨਕ ਬਿਨੁ ਭਗਵਾਨ ॥23॥



ਜੈਸੇ ਜਲ ਤੇ ਬੁਦਬੁਦਾ ਉਪਜੈ ਬਿਨਸੈ ਨੀਤ ॥

ਜਗ ਰਚਨਾ ਤੈਸੇ ਰਚੀ ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਸੁਨਿ ਮੀਤ ॥25॥



ਜਗ ਰਚਨਾ ਸਭ ਝੂਠ ਹੈ ਜਾਨਿ ਲੇਹੁ ਰੇ ਮੀਤ ॥

ਕਹਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਥਿਰੁ ਨਾ ਰਹੈ ਜਿਉ ਬਾਲੂ ਕੀ ਭੀਤਿ ॥49॥

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Ok I don't know a lot about this but my family come from Lahore and Lyallpur. What can we do about this? What action can we as Sikhs in the Uk take?

How can we also increase our kaum in the Uk which is declining whereas in Canada it is increasing. I myself am planning to have 5 kids are you guys?

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Ok I don't know a lot about this but my family come from Lahore and Lyallpur. What can we do about this? What action can we as Sikhs in the Uk take?

How can we also increase our kaum in the Uk which is declining whereas in Canada it is increasing. I myself am planning to have 5 kids are you guys?

Due to popular media's negative influence, our current thinking is very anti children, and anti family. Women are being taught from a young age to become feminists and our men are being taught to become feminine. Due to this impotent and barren way of thinking, today we think of children as being a burden. Traditionally a Sikh couple had many many children. Not like the current 1 or 2. During olden times, when a holyman or elderly person would bless a woman, the blessing would always be for having more children(ਦੂਦੋ ਨਹਾਓ ਪੂਤੋ ਫਲੋ) because children were rightly thought of as being a bundle of joy. For any community or nation to increase, they must have a healthy amount of children which is a minimum of 3 children per couple. In addition to parchar we ourselves can also do our part by having more kids per couple. Every Sikh child is a future Saint Soldier of the Sikh nation. The more Saint Soldiers to serve the Panth the better.

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I heard some state of heads in Delhi ( under the British rule) sent high ranking sikh army officers to try to talk some sense into Baldev Singh and accept Sikh empire boundries prior to 1848. And the british envisioned three country, India, Pakistan and old sikh empire.

Churchill did say "without sikhs the war might have been lost", and the british were pushing for the three countries.

It is unfortunate for the Sikhs that Churchill lost the election after the war and Atlee's Labour government came to power. The Labour leaders were supportive of Nehru who they thought was a socialist, whereas Churchill made derogatory comments about Nehru and Gandhi calling them 'half men' and 'the naked fakir'. Leo Amery , Churchills minister for India did try and work out a just settlement for Sikhs , the autonomous or independent state that is talked about, however it was Baldev Singh who put his personal interests ahead and rejected the offer after talking to Nehru and Gandhi. Baldev Singh was offered all sorts of positions of power and wealth by Nehru in India, but was only given the job of Defence minister after 1947. Baldev Singh died early and is said to have regretted what he had done on his death bed, but it was to late.
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