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Exposed: Beadbi of 22 Saroops of Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaj stored in warehouse in London On Tuesday 3rd September 2013 members of the Saadsangat received a telephone call that 22 Saroops

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Thank you for the information, please update if you have further news.

http://www.discoversikhism.com/sikh_news/sikh_news.html

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It's absolutely disgusting that the destruction of perfectly valid Saroops is even happening;

But worse still; that it's happening right under our noses!!!

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I want to praise the Singh's, the Sangat, and the Sikh Channel, that caught these parasites at work, and rescued the Saroops.

It is clear from the warehouse owner's actions, such as;

1. Moving the Saroops off site and speeding off in a van just as a few Singh's arrived at 6.15 pm, and the warehouse owners got a whiff of the fact that the majority mass of the Sangat was on it's way

2. The time delaying tactics, using excuses to refuse permission to enter the warehouse for a full 45 minutes, by which time offensive materials could be cleared out of the way

3. The owner's son then running off as soon as the Sangat were finally allowed in, as he felt the heat would be on him for being partly responsible for the Beadbi of 22 Saroops

4. Calling the cops to forcefully remove the Sangat from the premises, as, by now, the owner had no intention of honouring his fake excuses and false promises, never mind showing his face to the Sangat so that everyone knows who is the Dusht behind this Beadbi

5. Proceeding to hurriedly hide the 22 Saroops in a tiny secret room that's impossible to find, instead of openly placing them in Sachkhand

6. The fact that the 22, so-called "birrd", Saroops, were found, upon subsequent investigation by the Sangat, not to be "birrd" at all... that;

The whole episode just stinks of a MASSIVE COVER UP!!!!!

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But, notwithstanding the clear culpability of the owners of the warehouse;

The management committee of Guru Nanak Darbar Gurdwara Southall is hardly innocent either.

The Gurdwara committee clearly had no intention of ever opening up the mass destruction of Saroop's to the public, had the Sangat not taken action in such numbers.

The owner of the warehouse was clearly caught off guard when the Sangat arrived in huge numbers, and had no other choice but to pretend to co-operate, to save his own skin, while buying enough time to cover up as much of his Beadbi as possible.

Credit to the Pardhan Sahib of the Gurdwara (Harpal Singh) for being honest and open with the Sangat, unlike the owners of the warehouse;

But the very fact that perfectly valid Saroops are being collected by the Gurdwara committee for destruction in India in the very first place should raise serious cause for concern!!!

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A few of the Saroops were in need of seva of the Angs, something that is currently performed by Singhs in Havelock Rd Gurdwara Sahib. It was then decided by the sangat and amicably agreed (with Guru Nanak Darbar committee) that it would be best that the saroops should be placed in the Sachkhand at Havelock Rd Gurdwara where there would be enough space for the Seva to take place. Two Saroops were also taken to Guru Amar Dass Gurdwara Sahib as they were needed for daily Prakash and as they were in such good condition this would be possible.

Unfortunately, one of the two main reasons that the destruction of perfectly valid Saroops is happening in the first place;

Is because of, what is now, a shamelessly commercial venture, that is the vicious business cycle of;

* first Printing Saroops at low cost

* then Selling the same Saroops at high prices to the Sangat, who, purely out of their "shardha", and their desire for Guru Jee's darshan, pay whatever, within reason, is asked of them

* then obtaining Saroops that are no longer required from manmukhs and corrupt Gurdwara Committres

* and finally, taking these unwanted Saroops out of circulation by destroying them under the "bahanna" (false and exaggerated pretence) of "saskaar" of "birrd" Saroops

And then starting the whole vicious cycle again, in order to satisfy the immense demand for Saroops;

While absolutely refusing to allow the unwanted Saroops to go, free of charge, to those who respect Maharaj; because this sort of benevolent good deed it doesn't fit in with these massands' business interests.

It is deliberately in the massands' favour to maintain an artificial shortage in supply of available Saroops, in order to maintain an artificially high demand and low supply; meaning brisk sales and high prices.

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It is no secret that the urban, Indian Sikhs (such as Jivan Singh and Chattar Singh) are standing directly at the centre of this business to benefit from the guaranteed profit stream, at the total cost of mass disrespect to Guru Jee's Bani.

The Kabuli Sikhs of Southall are intimately connected, by blood relation, to the urban businessmen Sikhs in the cities of East Panjaab, and Delhi, that are at the centre of this trade; so it is no surprise that they are directly responsible for this Beadbi happening.

We all have to take our "wow, these Afghan Sikhs are proper Sikhs, unlike us!!!" eye-goggles off, and realise that these MIDDLEMEN are nothing less than MASSANDS that don't care about Sikhi; but just use and abuse Sikhi to make an ill-gotten profit.

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I will elaborate on the above background, and present why Beadbi activity is such a major business.

1. The Saroops cost next to nothing for the Printers to produce, as Angs are mass printed, utilising valuable economies of scale.

2. Moreover, because the Printing is a repeat process, for which the machinery has already been set up, there is very little intelligence required, forget manual labour, to produce the Saroops. [intelligence was only required to produce the Printing Press on the first place; now that this exists, that intelligence, which is costly, is no longer required.]

3. The Saroops are sold on to "Shardhavaan" Sikhs, often to NRI's, who, out of their respect, will pay whatever price, within reason, is demanded.

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As you can see; there are high gross margins possible through the sale of even one Saroop.

Therefore, it is not difficult to work out that it is directly in the printer's interests to ensure a high turnover of Saroops;

Rather than allowing unwanted Saroops to go, FREE OF CHARGE, to those that respect Maharaj;

Thus maximising sales of Saroops, and reaping the relatively easy, and high margin, gross profits;

Even if it results in the mass destruction of perfectly valid Saroops on a mass scale.

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This post wouldn't be complete if I didn't mention the second, of two main reasons, this Beadbi keeps happening.

And that's really very simple; because the elder generation of Gursikhs, who wanted darshan of Maharaj, are rapidly passing away;

And their second or third generation children, simply don't know what to do with the Saroops, nor do they care;

So they ask the local Gurdwara to collect the Saroop, thus allowing perfectly valid Saroops to end up in the hands of these massands, allowing them to keep their vicious business cycle going.

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This is why perfectly valid Saroops are being DESTROYED;

Instead of being RESTORED.

As Sikhs, instead of passively taking no action, except when we all get into one big group (as that's an exception, cos it's exciting, ain't it... :biggrin2: );

And thereby letting perfectly valid Saroops fall into the hands of money hungry corrupt Gurdwara Committees and Businessmen, who wish to keep the vicious cycle of sale, destruction, sale continuous, so that they can transfer the Sangat's hard earned money into their own pockets;

We absolutely need to be real PROACTIVE in rescuing Saroops from people who have no space or time for Maharaj in their life (for example, the westernised children of deceased Gursikhs), and restore these Saroops, FREE OF CHARGE;

Thus ending the vicious cycle, and putting the MASSANDS out of business!!! :) :) :)

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Thank you again for the information. Read here also,

http://www.discoversikhism.com/sikh_news/sikh_news.html

http://www.discoversikhism.com/sikh_news/beadbi_of_22_maharaj_saroops.html

Questions remain;

• Who gave the alleged 'buisness' permission to collect and store Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj Saroops?
• How was this 'business' selected?
• If Guru Nanak Darbar Gurdwara Sahib committee was involved, who has the accountability and records of events?
• What selection process, checks and assessments were carried out before hand by Guru Nanak Darbar Gurdwara Sahib, Southall?
• Was Sangat consulted or informed about this course of action?
• Who gave Guru Nanak Darbar Gurdwara Sahib, Southall permission to take this course of action?
• Why hasn't an independant UK Sikh organisation comprising of the Sangat been used?
• Why are perfectly valid Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj Saroops being collected by the Guru Nanak Darbar Gurdwara Sahib committee for destruction?
• What checks/ assessments were done on Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj Saroops prior to collection?
• Who authorised the collection of Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj Saroops from the original locations?
• What (dates/ times) were the Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj Saroops collected and then transported? Where are the records?
• Who agreed that the Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj Saroops were damaged beyond repair?
• Why couldn't Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj Saroops be restored?
• How many Gurdwaras are involved? Who has been contacted by this 'business' and/ or Guru Nanak Darbar Gurdwara Sahib, Southall for collection/ checking of Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj Saroops?
• How many Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj Saroops have been destroyed? (Locations, Dates/ Times)
• What are the arrangements for future saroops to be restored or removed? by who's authority/ assessment? is there independant verification?
• Have any of the collected Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj Saroops been sold for money?
• Why cannot Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj Saroops (that are not requried) be given to those Gursikhs in need?

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Great post jashb paji. Only thing i would say is though lets please refer to these culprits as Dusths and not label any particular community within the Panth.The Sevadaar who Maharaj blessed with this mahaan seva of bringing this out to the rest of the Panth have written a very good true account of events, without once mentioning or blaming any specific community within the Panth. Baentee for all of us is to learn that anybody (irrespectve of so called Jaat or standing in the Panth) who disrepects Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaj can never recieve Guru Jees blessings and their true colours will one day be revealed to the whole Sangat. Apolgies for any mistakes. Fateh Jee

Thank you paji.

I fully agree.

I will clarify that my post clearly refers to the MASSANDS that are responsible for this activity, who happen to belong to a certain section of our community, and actively make use (and abuse) of their perfect SIKHI SAROOP to GO UNDETECTED;

Not an entire section of our community at large.

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It is well known that the people behind this trade abuse the Sikhi Saroop for their personal gain; because that's the only way they can get away with hiding behind the false pretence of "saskaar" of "birrd" Saroops.

For example, take a mona. He would never be allowed to get away with the same offence, because his appearance would give him away at once.

The well respected Jivan Singh and Chattar Singh of Amritsar have been exposed for mass Beadbi of this kind, through treating the sale of Gurbani as a commercial venture, some time before, and they took some real hard beatings for that.

It would be difficult to insist, in view of the evidence; that the MASSANDS involved in this activity DON'T make active use and abuse of their Sikhi Saroop in order to get away with this.

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Most UK Sikhs do tend to view the Kabuli Sikhs at large through rose-tinted glasses.

It is the MASSANDS that use this to their advantage.

Again, I clarify; NOT THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

Thank you

It is no secret that the urban, Indian Sikhs (such as Jivan Singh and Chattar Singh) are standing directly at the centre of this business to benefit from the guaranteed profit stream, at the total cost of mass disrespect to Guru Jee's Bani.

The Kabuli Sikhs of Southall are intimately connected, by blood relation, to the urban businessmen Sikhs in the cities of East Panjaab, and Delhi, that are at the centre of this trade; so it is no surprise that they are directly responsible for this Beadbi happening.

We all have to take our "wow, these Afghan Sikhs are proper Sikhs, unlike us!!!" eye-goggles off, and realise that these MIDDLEMEN are nothing less than MASSANDS that don't care about Sikhi; but just use and abuse Sikhi to make an ill-gotten profit.

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Thank you Bhai Sahib. As you so rightly pointed out in your post, the Massands seem to hide amongst the Panth with too much ease. Sometimes when we highlight and investigate these kind of unforgivable disrespects to Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee we get distracted from the real issue and the real dushts. This results in counter arguements over petty non related issues (how often does this happen on Sikhsangat), inadvertently making the majority of the Sangat forget the real issues. Hence once again allowing the Massands to integrate with ease amongst the rest of us. With Maharajs blessings lets all stay focused on getting to the truth behind this gross Beadbhi of Akaal Purkh Di Jaag De Jot - Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee.

"Discover Sikhism" Bhai Sahibs, fantastic series of questions, is it possible for someone to liase with Sikh Ch to invite commitee members of the Guru Nanak Darbar Gurdwara Sahib, the owners of the warehouse and also members of the Saadsangat to answer all questions live in front of the whole Panth so the whole truth can come out. This way the real Massands will be clearly identified making it impossible for them to hide amongst Guru Jees Pavitar Khalsa Panth and send out very strong ripples to anyone else (no matter who they are) who dares to disrespect Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee - OUR ETERNAL GURU.

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Gurfateh Jee, Sangat Jee,

@SRIWAHEGURU - You are 100% correct, Bhai Sahib Jee. The questions raised by DiscoverSikhism are very valid. Sikh Channel has always taken a stand against these Massands. We remain continuously in touch with the Sikh Channel. I hope soon they will send an invitation letter to the Massands to come live on air (with the Singhs who did Seva, as eye witness). Sangat Jee, we cannot let this issue settle down silently. We have to Name and Shame these people. We have to give message to other Massands that Sikhs are alive. They will go to any extent to stop Beadbi of Guroo Granth Saahib Jee, Maahaaraj.

Let’s not calm down, until Massands face Sajja in front of Sikh Sangat. Sangat Jee. Please do Ardaas and help the Singhs involved in exposing these Masasands.

We can keep the pressure on them by exposing them to Sikh Media/contacting Guru Nanak Committee; asking them to apologise in front of Sikh Media. If Sangat has any further suggestions, then please share.

Bhul Chuk Maaf Jee

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