Shabad Hazaarey And Shabad Hazaarey Paatshahi Dasvi

[BritishSingh]

This video I found seems to refute the sakhi that Guru Arjan Dev Ji went to his Nanake in Lahore (see from 4:37 minutes in) and that Guru Arjan Dev Ji wrote the last line upon returning to Guru Ram Das Ji because Guru Arjan Dev Ji wasn't Guru at that time, Guru Ram Das Ji was. So therefore Guru Arjan Dev Ji had could not have used Guru Nanak Dev Ji's name because he wasn't the Guru. Only Guru Ramdas had the authority to use Guru Nanak Dev Ji;s name at that time, until the Gurgaddi was passed onto Guru Arjan Dev Ji. Also Professor Sahib Singh Ji's darpan of Guru Granth Sahib Ji states that the sakhi seems to be fictional.

Please can someone elaborate and clear my confusion. For instance is there a Gurdwara in Lahore where these letters were sent from?

Bhul Chuk Maaf.

[tuhintuhin]

This video I found seems to refute the sakhi that Guru Arjan Dev Ji went to his Nanake in Lahore (see from 4:37 minutes in) and that Guru Arjan Dev Ji wrote the last line upon returning to Guru Ram Das Ji because Guru Arjan Dev Ji wasn't Guru at that time, Guru Ram Das Ji was. So therefore Guru Arjan Dev Ji had could not have used Guru Nanak Dev Ji's name because he wasn't the Guru. Only Guru Ramdas had the authority to use Guru Nanak Dev Ji;s name at that time, until the Gurgaddi was passed onto Guru Arjan Dev Ji. Also Professor Sahib Singh Ji's darpan of Guru Granth Sahib Ji states that the sakhi seems to be fictional.

Please can someone elaborate and clear my confusion. For instance is there a Gurdwara in Lahore where these letters were sent from?

Bhul Chuk Maaf.

I vaguely remember Giani Thakur Singh ji clarifying the use of "Nanak" pad in the last para of the bani, that upon Guru Arjan dev ji's return, Guru Ramdas ji gave him gurgaddi and then 5th Guru sahib uttered the last para of bani.

Bhul chuk maaf, someone from sangat might enlighten us more.

[MokhamSingh]

Khalsa Ji,

Some modern Parcharaks refute the purartan Sakhi, on the basis that Satguru said" Bhaag hooya Gur Sant milyah". Modern preachers claim that Guru Arjun Dev Ji had already found Waheguru, through Guru Ram dass Ji. Purartan Gursikhs say that this pankti means, that Guru Arjun Dev Ji has found, through Waheguru, the Guru {who is also a Sant}, i.e. Guru Ram dass Ji is a Guru and a Sant.

All purartan Gursikhs uphold the sakhi; the new preachers refute it.

Waheguru.....

[ssinghuk]

I wouldn't listen to these charlatens! The so called "scholars" of late are even going to the extent of saying that Satguru Angad Dev Jee wasn't meant to be Guru as SatGuru Nanak didn't want any Gurgaddee. They are attacking the heart of our beliefs by slowly introducing more and more counts.

[GuptUnknown]

Thats S.d.o, he was excommunicated from the panth....

[Mrkhalsa007]

Nindak duba