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Shabad Hazaarey And Shabad Hazaarey Paatshahi Dasvi

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Mrkhalsa007    134

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Vjkk Vjkf sangat Ji,

I wanted to ask what the history of these bania are, I've heard that Shabad hazaarey we're letters to someone but were not sent because someone kept them (or something like that) and I wanted to know if Shabad hazaarey paatshahi dasvi were the same or diffrent ji

Thanks,

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Vjkk Vjkf sangat Ji,

I wanted to ask what the history of these bania are, I've heard that Shabad hazaarey we're letters to someone but were not sent because someone kept them (or something like that) and I wanted to know if Shabad hazaarey paatshahi dasvi were the same or diffrent ji

Thanks,

Waheguruji Ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh Veerji,

From the little which i re-call, there are two Shabad Hazaarey, one were letters written by Guru Arjan Dev Ji Maharaj to his father, Guru Ram Das Ji.. And then there are Shabad Hazaare written by Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj.

The saakhi of Guru Arjan Devji Maharaj's Shabad Hazaare -

Guru Ram Das Ji wanted his sons, Baba Prithi Chand to attend a wedding where he was invited. But Prithi Chand refused to mano Hukam of Guru Sahibj. Then Guru Sahib asked Baba Mahadev ji to attend the wedding, but he too refused. then Guru Sahib asked Guru Arjan Dev Ji to go to the wedding.

Since Guru Arjan Dev ji had a lot of chaao and prem for his father, he obeyed his Hukam and went for the wedding. Guru Ram Das Ji also told Guru Arjan Dev ji to stay at the wedding until he asked him to return.. It has been many months and still there was no call from Guru Ram Das ji to return home.. Guru Arjan Dev ji was filled with vairaag & so he wrote a letter (shabad) to his father.. The first letter is a stanza or the first part of this shabad :

maajh mehalaa 5 choupadhae ghar 1 ||

Maajh, Fifth Mehla, Chau-Paday, First House:

maeraa man lochai gur dharasan thaaee ||

My mind longs for the Blessed Vision of the Guru's Darshan.

bilap karae chaathrik kee niaaee ||

It cries out like the thirsty song-bird.

thrikhaa n outharai saa(n)th n aavai bin dharasan sa(n)th piaarae jeeo ||1||

My thirst is not quenched, and I can find no peace, without the Blessed Vision of the Beloved Saint. ||1||

ho gholee jeeo ghol ghumaaee gur dharasan sa(n)th piaarae jeeo ||1|| rehaao ||

I am a sacrifice, my soul is a sacrifice, to the Blessed Vision of the Beloved Saint Guru. ||1||Pause||

This letter, shabad never reached Guru Ram Das Ji, as his son, Prithi Chand had hidden it.

Then Guru Arjan dev ji wrote another letter, which is a continuation of the above -

thaeraa mukh suhaavaa jeeo sehaj dhhun baanee ||

Your Face is so Beautiful, and the Sound of Your Words imparts intuitive wisdom.

chir hoaa dhaekhae saari(n)gapaanee ||

It is so long since this rainbird has had even a glimpse of water.

dhha(n)n s dhaes jehaa thoo(n) vasiaa maerae sajan meeth muraarae jeeo ||2||

Blessed is that land where You dwell, O my Friend and Intimate Divine Guru. ||2||

ho gholee ho ghol ghumaaee gur sajan meeth muraarae jeeo ||1|| rehaao ||

I am a sacrifice, I am forever a sacrifice, to my Friend and Intimate Divine Guru. ||1||Pause||

This letter was also hidden from Guru Sahib. And Guru Arjan Dev ji wrote another :

eik gharree n milathae thaa kalijug hothaa ||

When I could not be with You for just one moment, the Dark Age of Kali Yuga dawned for me.

hun kadh mileeai pria thudhh bhagava(n)thaa ||

When will I meet You, O my Beloved Lord?

mohi rain n vihaavai needh n aavai bin dhaekhae gur dharabaarae jeeo ||3||

I cannot endure the night, and sleep does not come, without the Sight of the Beloved Guru's Court. ||3||

ho gholee jeeo ghol ghumaaee this sachae gur dharabaarae jeeo ||1|| rehaao ||

I am a sacrifice, my soul is a sacrifice, to that True Court of the Beloved Guru. ||1||Pause||

This letter also never reached Guru Ram Das ji. And Guru Arjan Dev ji wrote a fourth letter, which is -

bhaag hoaa gur sa(n)th milaaeiaa ||

By good fortune, I have met the Saint Guru.

prabh abinaasee ghar mehi paaeiaa ||

I have found the Immortal Lord within the home of my own self.

saev karee pal chasaa n vishhurraa jan naanak dhaas thumaarae jeeo ||4||

I will now serve You forever, and I shall never be separated from You, even for an instant. Servant Nanak is Your slave, O Beloved Master. ||4||

ho gholee jeeo ghol ghumaaee jan naanak dhaas thumaarae jeeo || rehaao ||1||8||

I am a sacrifice, my soul is a sacrifice; servant Nanak is Your slave, Lord. ||Pause||1||8||

And this time, the letter reached Guru Ram Das ji, and he called Guru Arjav Dev ji back. :)

The above are called Shabad Hazaare written by Guru Arjan Dev Ji, to his father, when he felt a lot of chaao and variraag for his father..

Then there are Shabad Hazaare written by Paatshaahi Dasvi, Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj. I do not know the saakhi behind them. Someone from sangat would be able to share with us..Also i could have gone wrong somewhere above, so please correct me.

Bhul chuk maaf karna ji.

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tuhintuhin    669

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waheguru ji, fourth stanza was uttered by Guru Arjan Dev ji to Guru Ramdas Ji face to face after Guru sahib called back 5ve paatshah as third letter had reached Guru sahib.

I heard from Giani Thakur Singh ji, my apologies if wrong

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puneetkaur    187

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waheguru ji, fourth stanza was uttered by Guru Arjan Dev ji to Guru Ramdas Ji face to face after Guru sahib called back 5ve paatshah as third letter had reached Guru sahib.

I heard from Giani Thakur Singh ji, my apologies if wrong

Thank you for correcting me.. That sounds so much more beautiful now :)Giani Thakur Singh Ji must've narrated it very nicely.. Do share if you have the recording or can I look it up on youtube?

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waheguru ji, fourth stanza was uttered by Guru Arjan Dev ji to Guru Ramdas Ji face to face after Guru sahib called back 5ve paatshah as third letter had reached Guru sahib.

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tuhintuhin    669

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waheguru ji, please don't thank me, heard a long time before. Thanks to you, now I am gonna listen to it again :)

I don't know youtube link, but mp3 audio can be found on the link below:

http://www.gurbaniupdesh.org/multimedia/listing.php?q=f&f=%2F04-Katha%2F13-Giani+Thakur+Singh+Ji+%28Patiala+Wale%29%2FKatha+Selected+Banis+%28Sri+Guru+Granth+Sahib+Ji%29

Under "Katha" folder -Giani Thakur Singh ji Patialewale -Katha Selected Banis (Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji) -katha Shabad Hajarey

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puneetkaur    187

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waheguru ji, please don't thank me, heard a long time before. Thanks to you, now I am gonna listen to it again :)

I don't know youtube link, but mp3 audio can be found on the link below:

http://www.gurbaniupdesh.org/multimedia/listing.php?q=f&f=%2F04-Katha%2F13-Giani+Thakur+Singh+Ji+%28Patiala+Wale%29%2FKatha+Selected+Banis+%28Sri+Guru+Granth+Sahib+Ji%29

Under "Katha" folder -Giani Thakur Singh ji Patialewale -Katha Selected Banis (Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji) -katha Shabad Hajarey

Wow.. There are so many more there.. Thanks again :)

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ssinghuk    124

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The kathaa from Giani jee above is a must! Would definitely recommend it

Been a while since listened to it, buts its very informative e.g. they narrate the above saakhee of when Sodhee PaatShah Sri Guroo Ramdaas Jee Maharaaj jee sent their youngest SahibJadey Sri Guroo Arjun Dev Jee to Lahore after having their earlier requests to Baba PrithiChand and Baba MahaDev refused.

They also talk about the Mahatam of Shabd Hazaray e.g. back in the day a Gursikh's Nitnem used to include this bani along with Shabad Hazaray P10, TwaParsaad Swayey (Deenan kee Pritpal), TwaParsaad Chopai on top of the standard Panj Baniaa.

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This video I found seems to refute the sakhi that Guru Arjan Dev Ji went to his Nanake in Lahore (see from 4:37 minutes in) and that Guru Arjan Dev Ji wrote the last line upon returning to Guru Ram Das Ji because Guru Arjan Dev Ji wasn't Guru at that time, Guru Ram Das Ji was. So therefore Guru Arjan Dev Ji had could not have used Guru Nanak Dev Ji's name because he wasn't the Guru. Only Guru Ramdas had the authority to use Guru Nanak Dev Ji;s name at that time, until the Gurgaddi was passed onto Guru Arjan Dev Ji. Also Professor Sahib Singh Ji's darpan of Guru Granth Sahib Ji states that the sakhi seems to be fictional.

Please can someone elaborate and clear my confusion. For instance is there a Gurdwara in Lahore where these letters were sent from?

Bhul Chuk Maaf.

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This video I found seems to refute the sakhi that Guru Arjan Dev Ji went to his Nanake in Lahore (see from 4:37 minutes in) and that Guru Arjan Dev Ji wrote the last line upon returning to Guru Ram Das Ji because Guru Arjan Dev Ji wasn't Guru at that time, Guru Ram Das Ji was. So therefore Guru Arjan Dev Ji had could not have used Guru Nanak Dev Ji's name because he wasn't the Guru. Only Guru Ramdas had the authority to use Guru Nanak Dev Ji;s name at that time, until the Gurgaddi was passed onto Guru Arjan Dev Ji. Also Professor Sahib Singh Ji's darpan of Guru Granth Sahib Ji states that the sakhi seems to be fictional.

Please can someone elaborate and clear my confusion. For instance is there a Gurdwara in Lahore where these letters were sent from?

Bhul Chuk Maaf.

I vaguely remember Giani Thakur Singh ji clarifying the use of "Nanak" pad in the last para of the bani, that upon Guru Arjan dev ji's return, Guru Ramdas ji gave him gurgaddi and then 5th Guru sahib uttered the last para of bani.

Bhul chuk maaf, someone from sangat might enlighten us more.

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Khalsa Ji,

Some modern Parcharaks refute the purartan Sakhi, on the basis that Satguru said" Bhaag hooya Gur Sant milyah". Modern preachers claim that Guru Arjun Dev Ji had already found Waheguru, through Guru Ram dass Ji. Purartan Gursikhs say that this pankti means, that Guru Arjun Dev Ji has found, through Waheguru, the Guru {who is also a Sant}, i.e. Guru Ram dass Ji is a Guru and a Sant.

All purartan Gursikhs uphold the sakhi; the new preachers refute it.

Waheguru.....

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I wouldn't listen to these charlatens! The so called "scholars" of late are even going to the extent of saying that Satguru Angad Dev Jee wasn't meant to be Guru as SatGuru Nanak didn't want any Gurgaddee. They are attacking the heart of our beliefs by slowly introducing more and more counts.

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