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You encounter a happy-go-lucky ordinary man who challenges you thus:
"I find characi lakh joon, this earthly life, rather enjoyable. My family is healthy and well off. My job is great. My son and daughter are well settled. My wife and I are a great couple. I have no need of a better afterlife or liberation whether that be positively blissful or completely devoid of pain as its content. I have all the bliss I need here and now. As a result, I will NOT remember or enquire on Waheguru
How will you respond to him?

YES, but this NEVER lasts forever !

There will ALWAYS be an empty hole that needs to be filled somewhere with everyone.

I would respond to him by making it clear that ....the ''NOW' that he is experiencing is just momentarily, like everything else in this world.

Also make it known, that he can change his mind and turn towards waheguru, when he feels the need.

That need can come any time because every experience and feeling is always just momentarily.

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You encounter a happy-go-lucky ordinary man who challenges you thus:
"I find characi lakh joon, this earthly life, rather enjoyable. My family is healthy and well off. My job is great. My son and daughter are well settled. My wife and I are a great couple. I have no need of a better afterlife or liberation whether that be positively blissful or completely devoid of pain as its content. I have all the bliss I need here and now. As a result, I will NOT remember or enquire on Waheguru
How will you respond to him?

just say "you to your path, me to mine, the moment you may feel you need a higher Spiritual calling God will be there for you my bruvz, key being shrdaah"

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He seems to be an atheist? I would run away from him ;P

And yea hope it rains on him, he gets sangat n he realizes what this life is for..

Or he's a missionary trying to sell his mission, by seeing your reaction of asking HOW he got to that stage.

In this case.......................also RUN !!!

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ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ ਮਹਲਾ ਪਹਰੇ ਘਰੁ

Siree Raag, First Mehl, Pehray, First House:

ਪਹਿਲੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਰੈਣਿ ਕੈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਹੁਕਮਿ ਪਇਆ ਗਰਭਾਸਿ

In the first watch of the night, O my merchant friend, you were cast into the womb, by the Lord's Command.

ਉਰਧ ਤਪੁ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਕਰੇ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਖਸਮ ਸੇਤੀ ਅਰਦਾਸਿ

Upside-down, within the womb, you performed penance, O my merchant friend, and you prayed to your Lord and Master.

ਖਸਮ ਸੇਤੀ ਅਰਦਾਸਿ ਵਖਾਣੈ ਉਰਧ ਧਿਆਨਿ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਗਾ

You uttered prayers to your Lord and Master, while upside-down, and you meditated on Him with deep love and affection.

ਨਾ ਮਰਜਾਦੁ ਆਇਆ ਕਲਿ ਭੀਤਰਿ ਬਾਹੁੜਿ ਜਾਸੀ ਨਾਗਾ

You came into this Dark Age of Kali Yuga naked, and you shall depart again naked.

ਜੈਸੀ ਕਲਮ ਵੁੜੀ ਹੈ ਮਸਤਕਿ ਤੈਸੀ ਜੀਅੜੇ ਪਾਸਿ

As God's Pen has written on your forehead, so it shall be with your soul.

ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਪਹਿਲੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਹੁਕਮਿ ਪਇਆ ਗਰਭਾਸਿ

Says Nanak, in the first watch of the night, by the Hukam of the Lord's Command, you enter into the womb. ||1||

ਦੂਜੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਰੈਣਿ ਕੈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਵਿਸਰਿ ਗਇਆ ਧਿਆਨੁ

In the second watch of the night, O my merchant friend, you have forgotten to meditate.

ਹਥੋ ਹਥਿ ਨਚਾਈਐ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਜਿਉ ਜਸੁਦਾ ਘਰਿ ਕਾਨੁ

From hand to hand, you are passed around, O my merchant friend, like Krishna in the house of Yashoda.

ਹਥੋ ਹਥਿ ਨਚਾਈਐ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਮਾਤ ਕਹੈ ਸੁਤੁ ਮੇਰਾ

From hand to hand, you are passed around, and your mother says, "This is my son.

ਚੇਤਿ ਅਚੇਤ ਮੂੜ ਮਨ ਮੇਰੇ ਅੰਤਿ ਨਹੀ ਕਛੁ ਤੇਰਾ

O my thoughtless and foolish mind, think: In the end, nothing shall be yours.

ਜਿਨਿ ਰਚਿ ਰਚਿਆ ਤਿਸਹਿ ਜਾਣੈ ਮਨ ਭੀਤਰਿ ਧਰਿ ਗਿਆਨੁ

You do not know the One who created the creation. Gather spiritual wisdom within your mind.

ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਦੂਜੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਵਿਸਰਿ ਗਇਆ ਧਿਆਨੁ

Says Nanak, in the second watch of the night, you have forgotten to meditate. ||2||

ਤੀਜੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਰੈਣਿ ਕੈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਧਨ ਜੋਬਨ ਸਿਉ ਚਿਤੁ

In the third watch of the night, O my merchant friend, your consciousness is focused on wealth and youth.

ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਚੇਤਹੀ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਬਧਾ ਛੁਟਹਿ ਜਿਤੁ

You have not remembered the Name of the Lord, O my merchant friend, although it would release you from bondage.

ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਚੇਤੈ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਬਿਕਲੁ ਭਇਆ ਸੰਗਿ ਮਾਇਆ

You do not remember the Name of the Lord, and you become confused by Maya.

ਧਨ ਸਿਉ ਰਤਾ ਜੋਬਨਿ ਮਤਾ ਅਹਿਲਾ ਜਨਮੁ ਗਵਾਇਆ

Reveling in your riches and intoxicated with youth, you waste your life uselessly.

ਧਰਮ ਸੇਤੀ ਵਾਪਾਰੁ ਕੀਤੋ ਕਰਮੁ ਕੀਤੋ ਮਿਤੁ

You have not traded in righteousness and Dharma; you have not made good deeds your friends.

ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਤੀਜੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਧਨ ਜੋਬਨ ਸਿਉ ਚਿਤੁ

Says Nanak, in the third watch of the night, your mind is attached to wealth and youth. ||3||

ਚਉਥੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਰੈਣਿ ਕੈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਲਾਵੀ ਆਇਆ ਖੇਤੁ

In the fourth watch of the night, O my merchant friend, the Grim Reaper comes to the field.

ਜਾ ਜਮਿ ਪਕੜਿ ਚਲਾਇਆ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਕਿਸੈ ਮਿਲਿਆ ਭੇਤੁ

When the Messenger of Death seizes and dispatches you, O my merchant friend, no one knows the mystery of where you have gone.

ਭੇਤੁ ਚੇਤੁ ਹਰਿ ਕਿਸੈ ਮਿਲਿਓ ਜਾ ਜਮਿ ਪਕੜਿ ਚਲਾਇਆ

So think of the Lord! No one knows this secret, of when the Messenger of Death will seize you and take you away.

ਝੂਠਾ ਰੁਦਨੁ ਹੋਆ ਆਲੈ ਖਿਨ ਮਹਿ ਭਇਆ ਪਰਾਇਆ

All your weeping and wailing then is false. In an instant, you become a stranger.

ਸਾਈ ਵਸਤੁ ਪਰਾਪਤਿ ਹੋਈ ਜਿਸੁ ਸਿਉ ਲਾਇਆ ਹੇਤੁ

You obtain exactly what you have longed for.

ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਚਉਥੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਲਾਵੀ ਲੁਣਿਆ ਖੇਤੁ

Says Nanak, in the fourth watch of the night, O mortal, the Grim Reaper has harvested your field. ||4||1||

ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ ਮਹਲਾ

Siree Raag, First Mehl:

ਪਹਿਲੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਰੈਣਿ ਕੈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਬਾਲਕ ਬੁਧਿ ਅਚੇਤੁ

In the first watch of the night, O my merchant friend, your innocent mind has a child-like understanding.

ਖੀਰੁ ਪੀਐ ਖੇਲਾਈਐ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਮਾਤ ਪਿਤਾ ਸੁਤ ਹੇਤੁ

You drink milk, and you are fondled so gently, O my merchant friend, the mother and father love their child.

ਮਾਤ ਪਿਤਾ ਸੁਤ ਨੇਹੁ ਘਨੇਰਾ ਮਾਇਆ ਮੋਹੁ ਸਬਾਈ

The mother and father love their child so much, but in Maya, all are caught in emotional attachment.

ਸੰਜੋਗੀ ਆਇਆ ਕਿਰਤੁ ਕਮਾਇਆ ਕਰਣੀ ਕਾਰ ਕਰਾਈ

By the good fortune of good deeds done in the past, you have come, and now you perform actions to determine your future.

ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨੁ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਹੋਈ ਬੂਡੀ ਦੂਜੈ ਹੇਤਿ

Without the Lord's Name, liberation is not obtained, and you are drowned in the love of duality.

ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਪਹਿਲੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਛੂਟਹਿਗਾ ਹਰਿ ਚੇਤਿ

Says Nanak, in the first watch of the night, O mortal, you shall be saved by remembering the Lord. ||1||

ਦੂਜੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਰੈਣਿ ਕੈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਭਰਿ ਜੋਬਨਿ ਮੈ ਮਤਿ

In the second watch of the night, O my merchant friend, you are intoxicated with the wine of youth and beauty.

ਅਹਿਨਿਸਿ ਕਾਮਿ ਵਿਆਪਿਆ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਅੰਧੁਲੇ ਨਾਮੁ ਚਿਤਿ

Day and night, you are engrossed in sexual desire, O my merchant friend, and your consciousness is blind to the Naam.

ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਘਟ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਨਾਹੀ ਹੋਰਿ ਜਾਣੈ ਰਸ ਕਸ ਮੀਠੇ

The Lord's Name is not within your heart, but all sorts of other tastes seem sweet to you.

ਗਿਆਨੁ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਗੁਣ ਸੰਜਮੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਜਨਮਿ ਮਰਹੁਗੇ ਝੂਠੇ

You have no wisdom at all, no meditation, no virtue or self-discipline; in falsehood, you are caught in the cycle of birth and death.

ਤੀਰਥ ਵਰਤ ਸੁਚਿ ਸੰਜਮੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਰਮੁ ਧਰਮੁ ਨਹੀ ਪੂਜਾ

Pilgrimages, fasts, purification and self-discipline are of no use, nor are rituals, religious ceremonies or empty worship.

ਨਾਨਕ ਭਾਇ ਭਗਤਿ ਨਿਸਤਾਰਾ ਦੁਬਿਧਾ ਵਿਆਪੈ ਦੂਜਾ

O Nanak, emancipation comes only by loving devotional worship; through duality, people are engrossed in duality. ||2||

ਤੀਜੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਰੈਣਿ ਕੈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਸਰਿ ਹੰਸ ਉਲਥੜੇ ਆਇ

In the third watch of the night, O my merchant friend, the swans, the white hairs, come and land upon the pool of the head.

ਜੋਬਨੁ ਘਟੈ ਜਰੂਆ ਜਿਣੈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਆਵ ਘਟੈ ਦਿਨੁ ਜਾਇ

Youth wears itself out, and old age triumphs, O my merchant friend; as time passes, your days diminish.

ਅੰਤਿ ਕਾਲਿ ਪਛੁਤਾਸੀ ਅੰਧੁਲੇ ਜਾ ਜਮਿ ਪਕੜਿ ਚਲਾਇਆ

At the last moment, you repent-you are so blind!-when the Messenger of Death seizes you and carries you away.

ਸਭੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਅਪੁਨਾ ਕਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਰਾਖਿਆ ਖਿਨ ਮਹਿ ਭਇਆ ਪਰਾਇਆ

You kept all your things for yourself, but in an instant, they are all lost.

ਬੁਧਿ ਵਿਸਰਜੀ ਗਈ ਸਿਆਣਪ ਕਰਿ ਅਵਗਣ ਪਛੁਤਾਇ

Your intellect left you, your wisdom departed, and now you repent for the evil deeds you committed.

ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਤੀਜੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਚੇਤਹੁ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਇ

Says Nanak, O mortal, in the third watch of the night, let your consciousness be lovingly focused on God. ||3||

ਚਉਥੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਰੈਣਿ ਕੈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਬਿਰਧਿ ਭਇਆ ਤਨੁ ਖੀਣੁ

In the fourth watch of the night, O my merchant friend, your body grows old and weak.

ਅਖੀ ਅੰਧੁ ਦੀਸਈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਕੰਨੀ ਸੁਣੈ ਵੈਣ

Your eyes go blind, and cannot see, O my merchant friend, and your ears do not hear any words.

ਅਖੀ ਅੰਧੁ ਜੀਭ ਰਸੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਰਹੇ ਪਰਾਕਉ ਤਾਣਾ

Your eyes go blind, and your tongue is unable to taste; you live only with the help of others.

ਗੁਣ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਿਉ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਵੈ ਮਨਮੁਖ ਆਵਣ ਜਾਣਾ

With no virtue within, how can you find peace? The self-willed manmukh comes and goes in reincarnation.

ਖੜੁ ਪਕੀ ਕੁੜਿ ਭਜੈ ਬਿਨਸੈ ਆਇ ਚਲੈ ਕਿਆ ਮਾਣੁ

When the crop of life has matured, it bends, breaks and perishes; why take pride in that which comes and goes?

ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਚਉਥੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸਬਦੁ ਪਛਾਣੁ

Says Nanak, O mortal, in the fourth watch of the night, the Gurmukh recognizes the Word of the Shabad. ||4||

ਓੜਕੁ ਆਇਆ ਤਿਨ ਸਾਹਿਆ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਜਰੁ ਜਰਵਾਣਾ ਕੰਨਿ

Your breath comes to its end, O my merchant friend, and your shoulders are weighed down by the tyrant of old age.

ਇਕ ਰਤੀ ਗੁਣ ਸਮਾਣਿਆ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਅਵਗਣ ਖੜਸਨਿ ਬੰਨਿ

Not one iota of virtue came into you, O my merchant friend; bound and gagged by evil, you are driven along.

ਗੁਣ ਸੰਜਮਿ ਜਾਵੈ ਚੋਟ ਖਾਵੈ ਨਾ ਤਿਸੁ ਜੰਮਣੁ ਮਰਣਾ

One who departs with virtue and self-discipline is not struck down, and is not consigned to the cycle of birth and death.

ਕਾਲੁ ਜਾਲੁ ਜਮੁ ਜੋਹਿ ਸਾਕੈ ਭਾਇ ਭਗਤਿ ਭੈ ਤਰਣਾ

The Messenger of Death and his trap cannot touch him; through loving devotional worship, he crosses over the ocean of fear.

ਪਤਿ ਸੇਤੀ ਜਾਵੈ ਸਹਜਿ ਸਮਾਵੈ ਸਗਲੇ ਦੂਖ ਮਿਟਾਵੈ

He departs with honor, and merges in intuitive peace and poise; all his pains depart.

ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਛੂਟੈ ਸਾਚੇ ਤੇ ਪਤਿ ਪਾਵੈ

Says Nanak, when the mortal becomes Gurmukh, he is saved and honored by the True Lord. ||5||2||

Vaheguru

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Or he's a missionary trying to sell his mission, by seeing your reaction of asking HOW he got to that stage.

In this case.......................also RUN !!!

I cannot say if he's a missionary but i did feel that he doesn't believe in God.. i would simply pray that Guru Maharaj Himself explain him.. Like we do ardaas, we ask for Sarbat Da Bhala.. i feel we need to ask this all the time, that we never loose faith in Him, n that we ask the same for others, that they may feel n believe that there is God.. i said, that i'd run away, so that my mind doesn't get affected by his thoughts.. it is scary..

The best is as another member said :

"ultimately the Gurus words are very powerful, they can change peoples minds" -

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When men and women carry the weight of material success and believe they have achieved it by deleting SuperPowwer out of their life they try to affect others, their not content asthey make out.

it does not matter how poor or rich a practicing Person of any recognised Matt is deep in his her heart the current of bhagti is their mainstay. They ooze with love and eenergy that infuses thee air around em. So the dunia wala person in their heart is actually in fear but tries to hide it and wonders about you. But because of the veil of physical maya is unable to comprehend what your on and makes you happy. That person has tasted every otheer thing on earth and still cant find innerhappiness. You have a simple formula at your tip.

love . keep on loving. Dont worry about the Super Titles. One day that person will likely come crying for help.

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It is quite simple this person is consumed by the fire of homai (ego), Gurbani warns us about it constantly and here is prime example, he will leave the world with nothing as stated in Twaprasad savaiye which we read ever morning, mountains can move but full of pride and ego they will not be moved !! so until the veil is not removed sadly this person will not do shukrana for what he has recieved but believes it is all his own doing, world is full of these types, which is all due to maya give then wealth etc so they forget waheguru ji unless they have gian about this and rise above it.

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