Naamdharis Given Air On Sangat Tv

[Jonny101]

Satgur Partap Singh once visited Baba Nand Singh who said to him that Guru Gobind SIngh dictated Guru Granth Sahib ji from memory can he ( Partap Singh) recite panj Granthi to him from memory. Partap Singh said to Baba Nand Singh that you are trying to test me and left nanaksar quickly. Lately Radha swami Guru went to Darbar sahib and Akal Takht Jathedar proclaimed that he believes that Guru Ganth Sahib is Guru not him. All this is just causing more confusion among the already confused Sikh people that who's who.

Biggest proof they are not Satguru is this. If they are Satguru they will have all Bani memorized. I doubt they even have Nitnem memorized, forget Panj Granthi. May Guru Jee(the real Satguru Ji) give these nakli Dehdhari Gurus some SuMat so that they realize their mistake of misguiding people and eventually come back to join the Khalsa Panth.

[Cisco_Singh]

You guys do realise.. In the Naamdhari belief system that all Naamdhari leaders after Baba Ram Singh are actually in effect "caretakers". They are not actual successors to Ram Singh leadership was never passed on. This is acknowledged by Naamdharis themselves in their ardaas they say "guddih nasheen" I.e: no Gurus after Ram Singh. This is because when Ram Singh was exiled by the British for being the head of a anti British freedom fighting movement he said that he will return. Hence till today naamdharis await the return of Ram Singh.

Personally I think the naamdharis made a cult after the exile of Ram Singh and made up all this story of guruship being passed on etc.. I have never seen or read any texts that report Ram Singh Himself claiming to be a Guru or successor to Guru Gobind Singh Ji.

Anyway back on topic why should caretakers be expected to have all banis commited to memory ???

[Jonny101]

Anyway back on topic why should caretakers be expected to have all banis commited to memory ???

They are not just mere caretakers, they claim to be "Satguru". The term Satguru has a very specific meaning in the Sikh tradition. If they are Satguru then they are infallible. They should have all of Gurbani memorized as Guru Gobind Singh Jee did when He sent Sikhs to retrieve the Kartarpuri Bir from the Ram Raiyas but they refused saying if He(Guru Sahib) is a Satguru then He does not need Kartarpuri Bir because a Satguru has all of Gurbani memorized. And since Guru Gobind Singh Jee was indeed Satguru, He dictated all of Gurbani in the form of Damdami Bir.

[Singh900]

Satguru Sri Guru Nanak dev ji was against pakhand in all its forms, this is the ultimate sin and evil of the kuke that they thag people into beliving they are the true sikhs with there fake leaders. There is a sakhi in Sri Guru Hargobind ji's time where ants were eating a snake and the sikhs ask Satguru why they were eating the snake alive, Guru ji said the snake was a pakhandi and the ants were his followers. They were eating the snake because he lied which put them back into chaurasi lakh joon. I don't a worst life then a snake but the kuke devils will be going there.

[lsingh]

The Namdharis are clearly against the teachings of Guru Gobind Singh by creating their own 'Gurus' and scriptures . I am surprised that the Nakali Nihangs support them whilst at the same time saying they Guru Gobind Singh ji's fauj. Also the people that bash Missionaries and Sikh preachers are silent on these much bigger offenders.

[chatanga]

Before the namdhari pakandi chatanga lies again, the Akal takht has excommunicated the namdhari kukas from the Khalsa panth

Maybe I was wrong. I would like to see this excommunication please, so I may offer a full apology, to anyone I may have mislead.

[Singh900]

On 24th october 2000 the Akal takht issued a Hukanama banning anyone who does not belive in the das gurus and Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji has their guru to perform kirtan in any gurdwara. If you do not belive in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and belive in dehdhari pakandi devils that the naamdhari leaders then u are not a sikh. The khalsa are the true naamdharis not these kuke devils because we are bestowed naam by the panj pyara in the presence Guru Nanak atmak jot Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji maharaj tha king of kings.

[chatanga]

On 24th october 2000 the Akal takht issued a Hukanama banning anyone who does not belive in the das gurus and Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji has their guru to perform kirtan in any gurdwara.

it's still not an excommunication is it?

Any other information you can volunteer about an actual excommunication?

[Singh900]

You will never get mukti pakandi kuka chatanga. You are banned so stop misleading the sikh sangat into thinking u are part of sikki or that u are sikh. Chak amrit has according to the Akal takht maryada and you will be accepted has a sikh of the true Guru. kalgug de avtar Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. Please come back to Sri Guru Gobind Singh's true Khalsa panth.

[N30S1NGH]

You will never get mukti pakandi kuka chatanga. You are banned so stop misleading the sikh sangat into thinking u are part of sikki or that u are sikh. Chak amrit has according to the Akal takht maryada and you will be accepted has a sikh of the true Guru. kalgug de avtar Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. Please come back to Sri Guru Gobind Singh's true Khalsa panth.

Whats with condescending patronizing intimidation obnoxious bullying attitude? I know chatanga singh..he is amritdhari khalsa singh not namdhari and even if he was - he still a fellow human being have human right/freedom of religion and freedom of liberty like most of us human ..same goes for missionary christian reformist sikhs..they are humans as well..ultimately have freedom of speech,freedom of religion and freedom of liberty, one must follow laws of the country and operate within legal frame work...also ultimately its between them and vahiguroo ji/god/allah/ram...who made us dharam raja to dictate whos getting mukhti or not?

what you going to do? what can you do? whats worse you can do?

Stop this bullying non sense-