Takht No To ‘Patit’ Sikhs In Gurdwara Panels Abroad

[JSinghnz]

Takht no to ‘patit’ Sikhs in gurdwara panels abroad

The Jathedar objected to the presence of ‘patit’ (apostate) Sikhs in gurdwara managements abroad. He said it had been decided that all gurdwaras should have only ‘sabat soorat’ Sikhs (with unshorn hair) in their committees. He also directed the managements not to ban the entry of anybody in the gurdwara premises.

http://sikhsangat.org/2013/akal-takht-decides-no-chairs-for-elderly-inside-gurdwara-hall/

This is a great decision by Akal Takht. How is going to be implemented by the Sangat?

Yours thoughts on this major development.

[Guest]

Very good!

[JasSinghKhalsa]

What about Patit's on Sikh media such as SikhChannel / Sangat TV. Does a Patit Sikh with trimmed beard on main stream Sikh media as presenter send a positive message?

[JSinghnz]

What about Patit's on Sikh media such as SikhChannel / Sangat TV. Does a Patit Sikh with trimmed beard on main stream Sikh media as presenter send a positive message?

That is up to the Sangat to put a stop to this too by sending a strong message to the management of these channels that they would not tolerate patits as presenters.

[sachasoorma]

Jas singh "khalsa"

Your name suggests enlightenment or immaturity

And jsinghnz

What an absolutely ridiculous question and what an absolutely ridiculous answer.

The Akhaal Takht has said is that a "patit" sikh has no business managing a Guru Ghar.

By what logic have you decided that to include media???

And how long before that same logic is considered reasonable enough to be applied to the sangat itself??

Get yourselves a mirror and.........have a word with yourself!!!!!!!!!

[chatanga]

Takht no to ‘patit’ Sikhs in gurdwara panels abroad

This is a great decision by Akal Takht. How is going to be implemented by the Sangat?

If this comes out as a hukamnama we have no choice but to implement it.

However, (you felt one coming day ya?), as an individual who has worked very closely with Gurdwara committees for the last 9 years, I personally would not put, or favour a restriction on mona's because I know of some amritdhari committee members who are the some of the most cretinous vile people you could ever meet.

I know of some mona's who have given their heart(if not their head) in sewa of the gurdwaras.

[jaspreet1]

If this comes out as a hukamnama we have no choice but to implement it.

However, (you felt one coming day ya?), as an individual who has worked very closely with Gurdwara committees for the last 9 years, I personally would not put, or favour a restriction on mona's because I know of some amritdhari committee members who are the some of the most cretinous vile people you could ever meet.

I know of some mona's who have given their heart(if not their head) in sewa of the gurdwaras.

Then find Amritdharis that are not vile people to run the Gurdwara. Obviously you don't say I'll pick the better of the two who are both disobeying Guru Sahib. Well some like you will do this when it comes to Sikhi. But when it comes to surgery that may result in death. You will tell both of these bad surgeons to get lost and you will run to find the best surgeon to conduct the surgery. You value your life more and some value Sikhi more.

[JSinghnz]

Then find Amritdharis that are not vile people to run the Gurdwara. Obviously you don't say I'll pick the better of the two who are both disobeying Guru Sahib. Well some like you will do this when it comes to Sikhi. But when it comes to surgery that may result in death. You will tell both of these bad surgeons to get lost and you will run to find the best surgeon to conduct the surgery. You value your life more and some value Sikhi more.

That's'ts what I call hitting the nail on the head.

[luckysingh99]

I thought a patit sikh is a fallen sikh. A sikh that has been initiated at one time into the khalsa but not kept his/her vows and thus broken/defaced their own amrit.

I'm not too sure why some people refer to ANY mona as a patit, when that is not the case.

As Chatanga mentioned above, some of them put more than their heart into the seva whereas some full amritdharies just walk around as if they don't need to do anything.

Many of these type of monas that get involved in seva and many other activities ...end up embracing the khalsa eventually and become amritdharies.

Do we really want to start segregating and ignoring them like brahmins do ??

Don't we end up putting them off and discourarging any hope of them embracing khalsa further down the path ?

Has no one on here ever really come across a mona that is a sikh of the higher order, in terms of actions, devotion and conduct ?

[sukhi077]

I thought a patit sikh is a fallen sikh. A sikh that has been initiated at one time into the khalsa but not kept his/her vows and thus broken/defaced their own amrit.

I'm not too sure why some people refer to ANY mona as a patit, when that is not the case.

As Chatanga mentioned above, some of them put more than their heart into the seva whereas some full amritdharies just walk around as if they don't need to do anything.

Many of these type of monas that get involved in seva and many other activities ...end up embracing the khalsa eventually and become amritdharies.

Do we really want to start segregating and ignoring them like brahmins do ??

Don't we end up putting them off and discourarging any hope of them embracing khalsa further down the path ?

Has no one on here ever really come across a mona that is a sikh of the higher order, in terms of actions, devotion and conduct ?

I have one question.. when it comes to follow the principles of sikhi like keeping hair and wearing turban etc etc...why do people start judging the character of amritdharis as bad and monas as good...

I do wonder because when we already know every community is a combination of both nice and bad people then why we point out bad amritdhari people?? and we don't point out good amritdhari people??

I think its a case of identity of sikhism (bana) and those who don't follow( maybe for whatever the reason) should know who were sikhs actually and talking about the character seems to be stupidity over here...

try to point out good amritdhari so that our life can be bloomed more and more.......