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Takht no to ‘patit’ Sikhs in gurdwara panels abroad

The Jathedar objected to the presence of ‘patit’ (apostate) Sikhs in gurdwara managements abroad. He said it had been decided that all gurdwaras should have only ‘sabat soorat’ Sikhs (with unshorn hair) in their committees. He also directed the managements not to ban the entry of anybody in the gurdwara premises.

http://sikhsangat.org/2013/akal-takht-decides-no-chairs-for-elderly-inside-gurdwara-hall/

This is a great decision by Akal Takht. How is going to be implemented by the Sangat?

Yours thoughts on this major development.

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If this comes out as a hukamnama we have no choice but to implement it. However, (you felt one coming day ya?), as an individual who has worked very closely with Gurdwara committees for the last 9 ye

What about Patit's on Sikh media such as SikhChannel / Sangat TV. Does a Patit Sikh with trimmed beard on main stream Sikh media as presenter send a positive message?

and I know many of the amritdhari/keshdhari/saabar soorats have given their heart(even their head) in the sewa of gurudwaras..........

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What about Patit's on Sikh media such as SikhChannel / Sangat TV. Does a Patit Sikh with trimmed beard on main stream Sikh media as presenter send a positive message?

That is up to the Sangat to put a stop to this too by sending a strong message to the management of these channels that they would not tolerate patits as presenters.

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Jas singh "khalsa"

Your name suggests enlightenment or immaturity

And jsinghnz

What an absolutely ridiculous question and what an absolutely ridiculous answer.

The Akhaal Takht has said is that a "patit" sikh has no business managing a Guru Ghar.

By what logic have you decided that to include media???

And how long before that same logic is considered reasonable enough to be applied to the sangat itself??

Get yourselves a mirror and.........have a word with yourself!!!!!!!!!

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Then find Amritdharis that are not vile people to run the Gurdwara. Obviously you don't say I'll pick the better of the two who are both disobeying Guru Sahib. Well some like you will do this when it comes to Sikhi. But when it comes to surgery that may result in death. You will tell both of these bad surgeons to get lost and you will run to find the best surgeon to conduct the surgery. You value your life more and some value Sikhi more.

That's'ts what I call hitting the nail on the head.

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I thought a patit sikh is a fallen sikh. A sikh that has been initiated at one time into the khalsa but not kept his/her vows and thus broken/defaced their own amrit.

I'm not too sure why some people refer to ANY mona as a patit, when that is not the case.

As Chatanga mentioned above, some of them put more than their heart into the seva whereas some full amritdharies just walk around as if they don't need to do anything.

Many of these type of monas that get involved in seva and many other activities ...end up embracing the khalsa eventually and become amritdharies.

Do we really want to start segregating and ignoring them like brahmins do ??

Don't we end up putting them off and discourarging any hope of them embracing khalsa further down the path ?

Has no one on here ever really come across a mona that is a sikh of the higher order, in terms of actions, devotion and conduct ?

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I thought a patit sikh is a fallen sikh. A sikh that has been initiated at one time into the khalsa but not kept his/her vows and thus broken/defaced their own amrit.

I'm not too sure why some people refer to ANY mona as a patit, when that is not the case.

As Chatanga mentioned above, some of them put more than their heart into the seva whereas some full amritdharies just walk around as if they don't need to do anything.

Many of these type of monas that get involved in seva and many other activities ...end up embracing the khalsa eventually and become amritdharies.

Do we really want to start segregating and ignoring them like brahmins do ??

Don't we end up putting them off and discourarging any hope of them embracing khalsa further down the path ?

Has no one on here ever really come across a mona that is a sikh of the higher order, in terms of actions, devotion and conduct ?

I have one question.. when it comes to follow the principles of sikhi like keeping hair and wearing turban etc etc...why do people start judging the character of amritdharis as bad and monas as good...

I do wonder because when we already know every community is a combination of both nice and bad people then why we point out bad amritdhari people?? and we don't point out good amritdhari people??

I think its a case of identity of sikhism (bana) and those who don't follow( maybe for whatever the reason) should know who were sikhs actually and talking about the character seems to be stupidity over here...

try to point out good amritdhari so that our life can be bloomed more and more.......

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Though i can see two sides of it, ultimately what has come to pass will!

I do not see the decision in a bad light but rather persons in charge should ideally be amritdhari. Thats not to say somebody whos mona qualified manager businessmen of whatever is any less, its just that sangats would rather have a Management who represents those ideals with which a Gurghar is about.

Ive seen some great sevedars who are monai involved in various fields ie Interfaith programmes.

The Decision going forward can be seen in the negative that folk are being judged but thats just one way of seeing it.

Steps need to be taken for Youth to actively take part in their heritage with love no matter if its shoes dishes charu maar or sitting in office.

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This is a sensible decision from the Akal Takht. It sets a basic minimum of what a Gurudwara administrator should be. You only hope their deeds and actions mirror their outward appearance.

I hope this doesnt deter non Amritdahris to not get involved in the running of the Gurudwara, sewa comes in many forms and ultimately we all aspire to one day become an amritdahri sikh.

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At least people have cleared up the patit definition it is a fallen Sikh, one who has taken amrit and done one of the 4 kurtahits, personally think a decision like this can push people away, we should be inclusive not exclusive. It would have been better to say those wishing to do seva should be amritdahri etc, and also instructing gwara committees no more elections etc, (too much money wasted on that), simple concepts of parrchees etc.

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