Suraj Parkash Granth On Beheading Of Punj Pyare?

[jaspreet1]

Reading Suraj Parkash Granth on the Punj Pyare there is a variation of the sakhi told around this huge event in the Khalsa Panth. One of the biggest difference is around what or who was beheaded in the tent when the Punj Sikhs stepped up to give their head. Many take Suraj Parkash Granth as the Gospel truth, but Gursikhs do not take this view of Suraj Parkash Granth. One of these Gusikhs was last seen defending Sri Akaal Takht Sahib against the Indian government and its forces of Indian army. Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa was not only a great warrior but also very learned in understanding Gurbani and Sikhi all together.

The writer of Suraj Parkash Granth, Bhai Santokh Singh ji writes that Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji asked for heads from the Guru's sangat. Once the first Sikh presented his head to Guru ji. Guru ji took the Sikh behind the tenet and instead of beheading the SIkh. Guru Gobind Singh Ji beheaded a goat and the Guru's sangat thought that the Guru had beheaded the Sikh. However Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa does not agree with this view and says that Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji behead the Punj Pyare.

In the Khalsa Panth many are venomously targeting others for not accepting Suraj Parkash Granth as the gospel truth. This does not just happen on the internet, but in person. I hold the view of Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa. Which is not everything in Suraj Parkash Granth is the gospel truth and the writer has made some mistakes. However many are scared that if we say that the writer made a mistake in one portion. Then all of Suraj Parkash Granth will be rejected by majority of the Khalsa Panth. I believe such individuals are paranoid and do not understand the depth of damage they are doing by supporting something as the gospel truth when it is not.

On page 200 of Suraj Parkash Granth, Bhai Santokh Singh ji says that Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji beheaded goats. It would be very foolish to say that all of this Granth is the gospel truth and it will be equally foolish to say that all of Suraj Parkash Granth is full of lies based on one mistake. I hold the view that Gursikhs have done a inspection of this Granth and they accepted what matched with Gurbani and rejected what was not in agreement with Gurbani

Here is the link to the reference in Suraj Parkash Granth on page 200:

http://www.ik13.net/PDFS/Rut3.pdf

[Singh559]

Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale was a firm supporter of our dharam Granths and never casted doubt on Gurbani nor on our precious dharam Granths.

Please don't use Sant Ji to cast doubt on Suraj Parkash Granth. If anything, please post relevant katha by Taksal - University of Sikhi doing katha of this. (preferably from Sant Ji's time and older)

[jaspreet1]

Here is a video of Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa who speaks against Suraj Parkash Granth account on Punj Pyare being beheaded.

[Singh559]

Don't twist Sant Ji's words and say he is against Suraj Parkash Granth. This doesn't mean he is against the account given in Suraj Parkash Granth. This type of intellectual analysis, actually lack of intellectual analysis is what modern day missionaries go about spewing on the internet.

I said to provide the relevant katha from puratan taksal of Suraj Parkash katha.

It's a big sin to put words in the mouth of Sants.

[GPS]

Here is a video of Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa who speaks against Suraj Parkash Granth account on Punj Pyare being beheaded.

Jaspreet1

I saw the whole video.Where does it say what you write that Sant is speaks against suraj parkash Granth on Panj pyare being beheaded.

This is what you wrote while posting video

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Here is a video of Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa who speaks against Suraj Parkash Granth account on Punj Pyare being beheaded.

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Please remain specific to the question.

[WaljinderSingh]

Reading Suraj Parkash Granth on the Punj Pyare there is a variation of the sakhi told around this huge event in the Khalsa Panth. One of the biggest difference is around what or who was beheaded in the tent when the Punj Sikhs stepped up to give their head. Many take Suraj Parkash Granth as the Gospel truth, but Gursikhs do not take this view of Suraj Parkash Granth. One of these Gusikhs was last seen defending Sri Akaal Takht Sahib against the Indian government and its forces of Indian army. Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa was not only a great warrior but also very learned in understanding Gurbani and Sikhi all together.

The writer of Suraj Parkash Granth, Bhai Santokh Singh ji writes that Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji asked for heads from the Guru's sangat. Once the first Sikh presented his head to Guru ji. Guru ji took the Sikh behind the tenet and instead of beheading the SIkh. Guru Gobind Singh Ji beheaded a goat and the Guru's sangat thought that the Guru had beheaded the Sikh. However Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa does not agree with this view and says that Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji behead the Punj Pyare.

In the Khalsa Panth many are venomously targeting others for not accepting Suraj Parkash Granth as the gospel truth. This does not just happen on the internet, but in person. I hold the view of Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa. Which is not everything in Suraj Parkash Granth is the gospel truth and the writer has made some mistakes. However many are scared that if we say that the writer made a mistake in one portion. Then all of Suraj Parkash Granth will be rejected by majority of the Khalsa Panth. I believe such individuals are paranoid and do not understand the depth of damage they are doing by supporting something as the gospel truth when it is not.

On page 200 of Suraj Parkash Granth, Bhai Santokh Singh ji says that Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji beheaded goats. It would be very foolish to say that all of this Granth is the gospel truth and it will be equally foolish to say that all of Suraj Parkash Granth is full of lies based on one mistake. I hold the view that Gursikhs have done a inspection of this Granth and they accepted what matched with Gurbani and rejected what was not in agreement with Gurbani

Here is the link to the reference in Suraj Parkash Granth on page 200:

http://www.ik13.net/PDFS/Rut3.pdf

Havent read carefully all but it seems you havent read even a bit of it. Read page 204, stz 15:

"Keitak hutey door sun dhaye

Sri Gujri Dhig Jaye Sunaye

Gur ki Budh Biprjay

Kharag Sang Katey Singh Doye"

There goes your claim in shatters

[MokhamSingh]

Reading Suraj Parkash Granth on the Punj Pyare there is a variation of the sakhi told around this huge event in the Khalsa Panth. One of the biggest difference is around what or who was beheaded in the tent when the Punj Sikhs stepped up to give their head. Many take Suraj Parkash Granth as the Gospel truth, but Gursikhs do not take this view of Suraj Parkash Granth. One of these Gusikhs was last seen defending Sri Akaal Takht Sahib against the Indian government and its forces of Indian army. Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa was not only a great warrior but also very learned in understanding Gurbani and Sikhi all together.

The writer of Suraj Parkash Granth, Bhai Santokh Singh ji writes that Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji asked for heads from the Guru's sangat. Once the first Sikh presented his head to Guru ji. Guru ji took the Sikh behind the tenet and instead of beheading the SIkh. Guru Gobind Singh Ji beheaded a goat and the Guru's sangat thought that the Guru had beheaded the Sikh. However Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa does not agree with this view and says that Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji behead the Punj Pyare.

In the Khalsa Panth many are venomously targeting others for not accepting Suraj Parkash Granth as the gospel truth. This does not just happen on the internet, but in person. I hold the view of Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa. Which is not everything in Suraj Parkash Granth is the gospel truth and the writer has made some mistakes. However many are scared that if we say that the writer made a mistake in one portion. Then all of Suraj Parkash Granth will be rejected by majority of the Khalsa Panth. I believe such individuals are paranoid and do not understand the depth of damage they are doing by supporting something as the gospel truth when it is not.

On page 200 of Suraj Parkash Granth, Bhai Santokh Singh ji says that Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji beheaded goats. It would be very foolish to say that all of this Granth is the gospel truth and it will be equally foolish to say that all of Suraj Parkash Granth is full of lies based on one mistake. I hold the view that Gursikhs have done a inspection of this Granth and they accepted what matched with Gurbani and rejected what was not in agreement with Gurbani

Here is the link to the reference in Suraj Parkash Granth on page 200:

http://www.ik13.net/PDFS/Rut3.pdf

Khalsa Ji,

Sri Gurpratap Suraj Granth is remarkable record of Gurusahiban history; Choodamani Kavi Santokh Singh was a remarkable writer, and an devoted Sikh. The Granth was compiled by the request of Raja Uday Singh of Kaithal, Kurukshetra, India. The staff who were appointed to assist Kavi Ji, to write and bind the Granth, we're Devi worshippers. Without the consent of Kavi Ji, the staff added their own vies into the Granth, such as Devi worship etc.

There are some accounts that do not conform to Gurbani, but they are adulterations; Kavi Ji was a Gursikh of the highest calibre.

Waheguru...

[GPS]

Khalsa Ji,

Sri Gurpratap Suraj Granth is remarkable record of Gurusahiban history; Choodamani Kavi Santokh Singh was a remarkable writer, and an devoted Sikh. The Granth was compiled by the request of Raja Uday Singh of Kaithal, Kurukshetra, India. The staff who were appointed to assist Kavi Ji, to write and bind the Granth, we're Devi worshippers. Without the consent of Kavi Ji, the staff added their own vies into the Granth, such as Devi worship etc.

There are some accounts that do not conform to Gurbani, but they are adulterations; Kavi Ji was a Gursikh of the highest calibre.

Waheguru...

The problem with shankavadi missionaries is that they cast doubt without knowing historical facts.

Bhai Mohkam singh ji is right that there were some additions by kavis without knowledge of Bhai Santokh singh ji.

But that does not make whole Suraj parkash as suspect.

Bhai Veer Singh ji spent 14 years to review and edit this granth. But he had immense respect for Bhai Santokh

singh ji and hence did not alter anything in granth.He wrote his comments as footnotes.

[Jonny101]

As mentioned above, Suraj Prakas is a respected Granth fo the Sikhs. Since it was written it has been used to narrate the stories of Guru Jee. But as mentioned above, some parts of it were added. It would be wrong to cast doubt on the whole granth because of some parts like throwing the baby with the bath water. One must read Suraj Prakash with the touch stone of Gurbani and accept those parts with are in accordance with Gurbani.

[Guest]

The problem with shankavadi missionaries is that they cast doubt without knowing historical facts.

Bhai Mohkam singh ji is right that there were some additions by kavis without knowledge of Bhai Santokh singh ji.

But that does not make whole Suraj parkash as suspect.

Bhai Veer Singh ji spent 14 years to review and edit this granth. But he had immense respect for Bhai Santokh

singh ji and hence did not alter anything in granth.He wrote his comments as footnotes.

A Gupt Sant told me about Sri suraj Prakash.He told me that there were four writers assisting kavi ji and they added things in without his consent.Kavi ji could not review the completed granth because he died shortly after.That is the reason why some parts are incorrect.Ninety-Nine percent of the Granth is true while the incorrect parts are added in by the other writers.This gupt sant saw kavi ji in his mind.