Petition: 'sikh Nation' Declare That Gurbachan Singh Is Not Our Jathedar.

[Singh559 2,624]

Kick out Gurbachan Singh and dismantle SGPC. Real challenge is electing real Khalsa.

I think best way would be for all REAL Panthic jathebandian to appoint Khalsa from each jatha. So one from Taksal, Nihang Singhs and AKJ. That way they can balance each out.

Having over representation of any one group without checks and balances would be bad.

[Guest]

Put in sant baba nihal Singh hariyan velan vale or sant baba hari Singh randhawa.They would do great as jathedars.

[Singh559 2,624]

Put in sant baba nihal Singh hariyan velan vale or sant baba hari Singh randhawa.They would do great as jathedars.

I disagree with Baba Hari Singh Randhawa, he is also a part of Sant Samaj that supports Badal.

[Jonny101 4,065]

Put in sant baba nihal Singh hariyan velan vale or sant baba hari Singh randhawa.They would do great as jathedars.

Agree with Baba Nihal Singh Jee but strongly disagree with Baba Hari Singh Randhawe waley. He is very knowledgeable no doubt, but he cannot go against party lines and as a result stays quiet in regards to Badal. Bhai Ranjit Singh, the former Jathadar of Akal Takht had a backbone and was not scared nor intimidated by Badal.

Shaheed Gurdev Singh Kaunke was also a good Jathadar. He had knowledge/Gian of Gurmat, fully Rehitvaan and was not scared to become a Shaheed. But ideally we need a Singh like Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale to become Jathadar of Akal Takht. That would be a dream come true.

[jaspreet1 92]

Discussing which Jathedar should be appointed now is like discussing what color of Bana Jathedar ji would wear on the first day of being appointed. In this current time even if you had a Jathedar who stood up to Badal, he would be eliminated in some fashion and a puppet Jathedar would be appointed once again. Imho.

I believe its better to let know your relatives in india that it is time to elect another party and politically overthrow Badal. No more who will destroy Sikhi at a slower pace. Give the people of punjab to vote for a party that is actually looking out for their welfare.

Edited December 10, 2013 by jaspreet1

[Jonny101 4,065]

Discussing which Jathedar should be appointed now is like discussing what color of Bana Jathedar ji would wear on the first day of being appointed. In this current time even if you had a Jathedar who stood up to Badal, he would be eliminated in some fashion and a puppet Jathedar would be appointed once again. Imho.

I believe its better to know your relatives in india that it is time to elect another party and politically overthrow Badal.

True words. Anyone who goes against Badal would be immediately removed from post of Jathadarship of Akal Takht. The only way to free Badal's control from Akal Takht is to free SGPC from Badal family. SGPC is the Sikh parliament. Right now all Sikh Jathabandis, Sant Samaj, Nihangs need to form a coalition to free SGPC from Badal.

[N30S1NGH 3,090]

Best way to approach this to form third poltical party in punjab register it for next election which addresses normal Aam Aadmi issues. Just recently Aam Aadmi Party won historical win in Delhi beating 50 year of Congress rule. If this can be done in delhi it can be done in punjab.

Root issue is political power party in punjab which is badal not the jathedar.. We can replace as many jathedar we like without khalsa influence in main poltical party in power it's useless. We don't have monarch society anymore.. So this petition does not Adress the root issue.

Panj singhs should go to bhai gurbkash singh to call this Hunger strike off as there is time and place for everything.. At this point poltical games are carried at all levels all appear to be panthic and non panthic groups.

We need educated poltical spiritual group of sikhs form a party for next elections if people want to crush badal cancer from punjab. Innocent bhagat like bhai gurbkash singh ji will be victim of political game if he dies as no one really cares in punjab as they already accepted badal as their leader so until next election when people can see hope universal issues like poverty, drug, curroption, human right issue are addressed... That's the crux and deciding factor for all issues... Other than that ban aid fixes or rhetoric may not be useful to resolve long run issues.. Don't get me wrong it's good for awareness but not too point where one is dying over this... Panj should hakum to bhai sahib ji, may be use different approach . We all saw what happened during rajoana Factor.. There was public awareness for bit but after that all sikhs went about their daily chores.

Edited December 10, 2013 by N30S1NGH

[ThunderousDominator 277]

bhai rajoana shouldve been made jathedar long ago

[N30S1NGH 3,090]

bhai rajoana shouldve been made jathedar long ago

As a symbolic gesture sure but as actual jathedar not practical as he is behind bars even punjab govt cannot release him even if they want to as center is involved.

Political party in power cooperation is fully required if you want to get anything done in india. Jathedar is pupet of badal not because he really wants to deep inside but because there is simply no other choice at all at this current time as other venues approach are already been infiltrated, crushed by govt. Either join them to get logistical dharamic work done or get crushed it's simple as that until next election. Think of it relationship in Western countries between mayor and police commissioner.. for most part police commissioner have to be in good terms with mayor in order to get stuff done and funding. It's called leaving differences aside and cooperating for future good or waiting for right time an chance to take one out completely.

Edited December 10, 2013 by N30S1NGH

[osingh 207]

The sgpc is more powerful than the jathedar. The sgpc is run by badal therefore they will only select jathedars that will not go against badal. As soon as a jathedar goes against badal the sgpc fill remove them and select someone else.

The whole system needs to be changed.

The jathedar should be selected by the Sikh panth not a political party which the sgpc has become.

One good thing has come out of this movement. People are now more aware of just how much influence badal has over the sgpc and akal takht.

We need a third option for the next elections that will for fight for Sikh causes. Maybe sardar Mann could unite with aam admi party?

The panth needs to prepare now and not just before elections. All panthic jathebandis should help in forming a third party so that we can finally get some sort of justice.

We will not get justice through congress or akal dal.

Edited December 10, 2013 by osingh

[Jivan76 62]

Discussing which Jathedar should be appointed now is like discussing what color of Bana Jathedar ji would wear on the first day of being appointed. In this current time even if you had a Jathedar who stood up to Badal, he would be eliminated in some fashion and a puppet Jathedar would be appointed once again. Imho.

I believe its better to let know your relatives in india that it is time to elect another party and politically overthrow Badal. No more who will destroy Sikhi at a slower pace. Give the people of punjab to vote for a party that is actually looking out for their welfare.

WAHEGURU

[Mehtab Singh 3,896]

First get rid of Badal and his entire crew and clan, meaning son, daughter-in-law and nephew as well, and I mean in terms of politics. If Modi wins in the center and becomes PM, you can count on the fact that the Badals will become "untouchables" for another 5 years. Not saying they will become invincible, but the kind of opposition they are facing right now won't exist.

Bottom line, get rid of them, and quickly!

[WaljinderSingh 793]

First get rid of Badal and his entire crew and clan, meaning son, daughter-in-law and nephew as well, and I mean in terms of politics. If Modi wins in the center and becomes PM, you can count on the fact that the Badals will become "untouchables" for another 5 years. Not saying they will become invincible, but the kind of opposition they are facing right now won't exist.

Bottom line, get rid of them, and quickly!

I dont think it can happen that quickly ! For that to happen majority of the youth must join the revolution but looking at the current situation, which is drug addicted, materialstic, youth etc which counts more than 70% of the youth, it cannot be that quickly unless of course a miracle happens and the mindset of the ordinary Punjabis in Punjab changes..

[tuhintuhin 664]

Did anybody listen to the song they performed on the opening ceremony of International Kabbadi cup in Bathinda. Shame on the singers who sang that song.

"Kade kade rab paida karda Badal jahe insaan"

Biggest joke ever

The only solutions is their death.

And some party like "Aam Aadmi Party" should come into existence in Punjab, Manpreet Badals party should not be trusted either.

Edited December 10, 2013 by tuhintuhin

[WaljinderSingh 793]

Did anybody listen to the song they performed on the opening ceremony of International Kabbadi cup in Bathinda. Shame on the singers who sang that song.

"Kade kade rab paida karda Badal jahe insaan"

Biggest joke ever

Heard that. Shame on such Singers...

And some party like "Aam Aadmi Party" should come into existence in Punjab, Manpreet Badals party should not be trusted either.

Agree