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Why Are Rules For Covering Heads In Gurdwareh Now Relaxed?


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unfortunately there are also parents who opt out of disciplining their children- perhaps seeing the chance to relax and sit back while their child runs riot and spoils the atmosphere for others . in the old days, most parents would be too ashamed to let that happen in public - maybe its the western disease of bestfrienditis - wanting to be the childs best friend instead of a parent, it just amounts to lack of respect for our guruji. and this week I'm seriously considering not going to the gurdwara as its more peaceful at home and I can just put on one of the Sikh channels

Wjkk wjkf,

Yes, again i agree with you sister on the disciplining of a child has become something to question, but at the same time sometimes a child can be a right little monster at the best of times. But still I feel it' s no excuse.

Sister, you should go to the gurdwara this weekend, dont stay at home because if then no change will take place. Like Shiri Guru Nanak Dev Ji said to the sants in the Himalayas, " you dont like the way in which the world runs down there so you stay up here out of everyone's way, so then how can you be really spreading gods message".

So dont sit at home, go to have darshan of our guru and united we can tackle this issue. Do you thing the leaflet is an idea what would work sister?

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No offence but I don't think it's a big deal if a little kid does not have their head covered. A kid whose parents tied a dastaar or put a ramaal on them would not be head-covering out of respect since they don't know what the heck is going on. Nor would they be bare headed for the sake of causing havoc. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't see the biggy at all.

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I think one reason for relaxes the rules was in previous generations children who were told off for not wearing rumaals would end up getting shouted at by someone which would deter them from returning to the gurdwara. Also I think some leg room for understanding why people, children cut their hair exists and a far more relaxed tolerant attitude is taken for their spiritual journey and how it effects us. And for some of them it wasn't their fault, they couldn't even tie a rumaal but the parents. Some don't feel it is necessary for a child to cover their head, kinda like how it's permissable in some circles for a child to be partially unclothed since the child hasn't developed it's akaal, mat, budhi yet and it takes a while. It does become an issue when it's teenagers walking around who should know better.

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Again, I don't think in my opinion it's ok for a child to be exempt from this rule, obviously when a child is young, from birth to about 4, I agree they don't understand, however it becomes the parents and families responsibility that their child's head is covered. Even though a child is very innocent , in the sense that they can't really help or do much for themselves, that child has been born due to its Karam of previous life's to gain the life of human form. Our soul only reaches this janam to claim mukhti. So we should understand deeper meanings, by us being the parents and now not covering our children's heads because it ain't a "biggy" demonstrates how westernised our view on our own religion has become. It is simply Beadbi. I don't understand why we need to be so relaxed about this, I'm sure this doesn't happen in a Mosque or a Synagogue,

I don't believe some Giani or some random person should show the child or family up byembarrassing them. But a quite suggestion should be made. We all know that every persons head should be covered, but we really are not bothered enough to enforce it. People's spiritual growth or spiritual stunting happens on a day to day basis, but when going to the gurdwara, we are entering the guru's darbar where the guru is Prakash? We're not going to church where this rule is permitted, we're going to a gurdwara where the guru's insisted for everyone's heads to be covered!

A child in the uk generally has to wear school uniform by the age of 4, yet we find so many excuses to come up with a reason not to cover our children's heads in the gurdwara rather than just fix the problem as a parent has to say yes and no all day long, but in the gurwara, just forget it, it's alrite!

If we're ok on accepting this beadbi of the Guru Granth Sahib, then what beadbi is also going to come next and be relaxed?

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Again, I don't think in my opinion it's ok for a child to be exempt from this rule, obviously when a child is young, from birth to about 4, I agree they don't understand, however it becomes the parents and families responsibility that their child's head is covered. Even though a child is very innocent , in the sense that they can't really help or do much for themselves, that child has been born due to its Karam of previous life's to gain the life of human form. Our soul only reaches this janam to claim mukhti. So we should understand deeper meanings, by us being the parents and now not covering our children's heads because it ain't a "biggy" demonstrates how westernised our view on our own religion has become. It is simply Beadbi. I don't understand why we need to be so relaxed about this, I'm sure this doesn't happen in a Mosque or a Synagogue,

I don't believe some Giani or some random person should show the child or family up byembarrassing them. But a quite suggestion should be made. We all know that every persons head should be covered, but we really are not bothered enough to enforce it. People's spiritual growth or spiritual stunting happens on a day to day basis, but when going to the gurdwara, we are entering the guru's darbar where the guru is Prakash? We're not going to church where this rule is permitted, we're going to a gurdwara where the guru's insisted for everyone's heads to be covered!

A child in the uk generally has to wear school uniform by the age of 4, yet we find so many excuses to come up with a reason not to cover our children's heads in the gurdwara rather than just fix the problem as a parent has to say yes and no all day long, but in the gurwara, just forget it, it's alrite!

If we're ok on accepting this beadbi of the Guru Granth Sahib, then what beadbi is also going to come next and be relaxed?

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I'm sick and tired of reading topics of people complaining. If YOU see beadbi or a problem then do something about it! What is the point in watching then going on a forum to moan about it?! We can all sit behind a computer screen and complain. But guess what? That doesn't get us anywhere. So use your brain and go and tell people, put a ramaal on a child, do something! I don't know who's thicker, you for complaining or them.

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I'm sick and tired of reading topics of people complaining. If YOU see beadbi or a problem then do something about it! What is the point in watching then going on a forum to moan about it?! We can all sit behind a computer screen and complain. But guess what? That doesn't get us anywhere. So use your brain and go and tell people, put a ramaal on a child, do something! I don't know who's thicker, you for complaining or them.

Why so much anger? Why say personal insults? Is that a demonstration of how passionate you are about your faith? If it is, anger or insults are not the way to vent your passion? The reason I added this topic was to discuss it with the other sikhs and understand wider opinion. Sitting behind a computer screen for some, is doing something about it as it creates awareness, are you not on here to find out what's going on in our panth on a wider geographical scale yourself? Also, I put the topic on to be discussed and find the best possible solution, which we can all replicate and try and introduce to our local gurdware. There is no reason for you to insult someone like you have, based on them not doing something how you would, all behind a computer screen, so my fellow sikh, do you think it is in a sikhs characteristic to cuss someone discussing a panthic issue?

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I'm sick and tired of reading topics of people complaining. If YOU see beadbi or a problem then do something about it! What is the point in watching then going on a forum to moan about it?! We can all sit behind a computer screen and complain. But guess what? That doesn't get us anywhere. So use your brain and go and tell people, put a ramaal on a child, do something! I don't know who's thicker, you for complaining or them.

Guru de Sikha,

ਰੋਸੁ ਨ ਕਾਹੂ ਸੰਗ ਕਰਹੁ ਆਪਨ ਆਪੁ ਬੀਚਾਰਿ ॥ रोसु न काहू संग करहु आपन आपु बीचारि ॥ Ros na kāhū sang karahu āpan āp bīcẖār. Do not be angry with anyone else; look within your own self instead.

ਹੋਇ ਨਿਮਾਨਾ ਜਗਿ ਰਹਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਨਦਰੀ ਪਾਰਿ ॥੧॥ होइ निमाना जगि रहहु नानक नदरी पारि ॥१॥ Ho▫e nimānā jag rahhu Nānak naḏrī pār. ||1|| Be humble in this world, O Nanak, and by His Grace you shall be carried across. ||1||

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