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I was recently at a path and people were eating store made cookies, pastries etc without even checking the ingredients (many were even amritdhari). And frequently you'll see people serving doughnuts (made with eggs) and pizza (made with rennet) being served for langar at kids programs at the Gurdwara.

Now my question is would an amritdhari who unawarely ate pizza with rennet (or pastries with eggs) have to go pesh? Or even just ate something with animal by products by accident.

Sorry if I offended anyone, I just asked it because it's been on my mind for years and I see it happen a lot.

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It's in cheese, usually comes from animal stomach. Not all cheese's have it but a lot of cheese's use it these days, especially cheese's used in pizza http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rennet

This is shocking!!! Thank god I have stayed away from pizza for a long time. This needs to be spread as for our Gurdwara classes have pizza for lunch, hopefully not meat involved....

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can you please explain what pizza with rennet is?

Pizza is made with Mozzarella cheese. Mozzarella is made using an enzyme called rennet, and traditionaly that is the lining of an animal's stomach. Whether or not the pizza you eat has that meat rennet depends largely, these days, on whether you live in the UK or Canada / America. In north America, if you eat a pizza made from any of the large pizza chains, or even a frozen pizza, there's still a good chance the mozzarella will have been made using animal rennet. In the UK however, it is actually extremely rare for meat rennet to be used so the mozzarella will more likely be made from vegetable rennet, thus totally suitable for all Sikhs.

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Pizza is made with Mozzarella cheese. Mozzarella is made using an enzyme called rennet, and traditionaly that is the lining of an animal's stomach. Whether or not the pizza you eat has that meat rennet depends largely, these days, on whether you live in the UK or Canada / America. In north America, if you eat a pizza made from any of the large pizza chains, or even a frozen pizza, there's still a good chance the mozzarella will have been made using animal rennet. In the UK however, it is actually extremely rare for meat rennet to be used so the mozzarella will more likely be made from vegetable rennet, thus totally suitable for all Sikhs.

I guess it is a problem for me because I am in America. This is very difficult to tell if it is actually made from animal rennet? Do you think big pizza chains can answer on if ALL of their cheese is from animal rennet?

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I guess it is a problem for me because I am in America. This is very difficult to tell if it is actually made from animal rennet? Do you think big pizza chains can answer on if ALL of their cheese is from animal rennet?

This will answer some of your questions KharkuSingh, and it seems chains such as Pizza Hut, Dominos and Papa Johns at least use only vegetable rennet :

http://www.vrg.org/vrgnews/2007aug.htm#pizzahut

It's ironic, but as the big chains have moved towards a more humane approach by using vegetable rennet, we Sikhs are far more likely to be eating animal rennet mozzarella if we buy our pizza from Sikh owned pizza shops. And that is because the ingredient buying motivation of the small business owner is geared far more towards getting the cheapest product rather than ethical concerns. In your part of the world, where there is such a massive supply and demand for mozzarella, that cheaper one is very likely to be the traditional animal rennet.

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This will answer some of your questions KharkuSingh, and it seems chains such as Pizza Hut, Dominos and Papa Johns at least use only vegetable rennet :

http://www.vrg.org/vrgnews/2007aug.htm#pizzahut

It's ironic, but as the big chains have moved towards a more humane approach by using vegetable rennet, we Sikhs are far more likely to be eating animal rennet mozzarella if we buy our pizza from Sikh owned pizza shops. And that is because the ingredient buying motivation of the small business owner is geared far more towards getting the cheapest product rather than ethical concerns. In your part of the world, where there is such a massive supply and demand for mozzarella, that cheaper one is very likely to be the traditional animal rennet.

Thank you ji, this is very helpful to keep myself away from meat and the kids at gurdwara. It is sad that pizza shops owned by Sikhs are using animal rennet. They must tell sangat atleast to give a head-ups for Sikhs who do not eat meat.

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Thank you ji, this is very helpful to keep myself away from meat and the kids at gurdwara. It is sad that pizza shops owned by Sikhs are using animal rennet. They must tell sangat atleast to give a head-ups for Sikhs who do not eat meat.

No I'm not saying the Sikh owned shops ARE using animal rennet, I'm merely hoping that when they source their ingredients from a supplier they are taking into account ethical and moral concerns rather than purely monetary concerns.

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The gurdware and sadh sangat should just stick to simple food like dhal dhai, and roti. Simple as, it's only due to us, that we feel the need to have "pizza" for langar and "cookies". How ridiculous!

I think the meat issue has actually taken over the principal of eat what you can, not on the basis of the craving of your tongue as to crave for chicken and to crave for a parauntha is the same emotion.

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Diary itself is an extremely cruel practice.....

but you guys here acting like brahmins (whose faith is violated by inadvertently ingesting meat)....without rationaly and or/compassionately thinking

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Well said, it's like the prime goal of everyone at present is to become vegetarian.

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IMO if the Guru's were here on the Earth plane, with It being a time where more non-Meat foods are so readily available, they would be Vegans. Not just Vegetarian's but Vegan. Foods get shipped now, there are many foods people haven't even heard of, there are Vegan alternatives let alone Vegetarian, also many Vegetarian only restaurants.

Don't know how anyone can eat Meat today. Not just ''Sikhs''.

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