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Beard - Explanation From 2Nd Jathedar Hazur Sahib


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waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

also daas thinks this trend of tying dhari started only in sikh religion

from last 2 generation... my dad does so as my grandfather did... but i think its only in sikh community .. leonardo da vinci and graham bell had one and i havent yet a single of them with thier beard tied..

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i am a software engineer, and they dont even ask me to tie my beard :|

If your were a car mechanic or welder than tying your beard up out of the way of getting caught is respectful. Then I have also seen people not tie their beard in professions that it can be done.

But software engineering! The acting jathedar is clueless of your job and your parents want you to "look more professional"

You are doing the right thing by not tying it.

Companies cannot ask a singh to tie their beard up. Unless it is for safety reasons. Even then it can be challenged because some of this safety policy are not really their for safety reasons. This can fall into discrimination and the company can be sued big time.

If ever some manager or owner tells you to tie the beard up, get them saying it in an email. If anyone is stuck in such a issue send me an pm and I will let you know how to go about it in a formal matter.

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Waheguroo, I've also been plagued with this question and also in the same profession- software engineer! Guru Kirpa, I don't tie it either but I do "tuck it" into my shirt as otherwise it touches the keyboard lol. But these questions arise for a number of reasons e.g. insecurity, lack of barosa in SatGuru and also a fear of not fitting in.

On the other hand, if you are in a profession where its a "health and safety" like a mechanic or something then it makes sense to tie or use another method to keep your dhara out of the way.

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WJKK WJKF

recently my family has been behind me - to tie my beard

but recently a good singh went to hazur sahib and the 2nd acting jathedar ji (NOT kulwant singh ji ) had a talk with me on call

and he explained that you can tie beard on work where you require sometimes

but i explained him with these 2 tuks

sabat surat sidha dara kat ka kanga keshi chada

sabat surat dastar sira

2nd jathedars reply :- we shouldnt be so katar

not sure what to think of this but never going to tie my beard.

Man, sometimes you seem so 'hardcore' on this website, but you're having doubts about this?

Get a grip of yourself, hold yourself together, you're a softwarer engineer, no need to tie!!!

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Kep your handicap situation to yourself.

The Khalsa have fought and won many fights with " long" beards.

Thats rubbish you know nothing of street fights, close up fight situations. Your dhari can be easily grabbed. I quote the recent news of Sikhs fighting each other over Gurdwara defamation and one of thems dhari came out during the fight.

A good fighter should be aware of his long beard and also his/her kesh coming loose. If you opponent grabs hold of your kesh, youll get knocked about like a doll

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Thats rubbish you know nothing of street fights, close up fight situations. Your dhari can be easily grabbed. I quote the recent news of Sikhs fighting each other over Gurdwara defamation and one of thems dhari came out during the fight.

A good fighter should be aware of his long beard and also his/her kesh coming loose. If you opponent grabs hold of your kesh, youll get knocked about like a doll

Mind your lingo when you write on our forum, youngster.

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Thats rubbish you know nothing of street fights, close up fight situations. Your dhari can be easily grabbed. I quote the recent news of Sikhs fighting each other over Gurdwara defamation and one of thems dhari came out during the fight.

A good fighter should be aware of his long beard and also his/her kesh coming loose. If you opponent grabs hold of your kesh, youll get knocked about like a doll

True, but street fights can happen any time. There is no warning when it happens on the street, it only takes a split second. It would be illogical to say tie your beard all the time because you never know when it will happen. Women are weaker than men so how do they make up for this weakness they have. Size matters, but not as much as speed and keeping space between you and the opponent. If you are going to let an opponent walk up to you closer than arms length, you might as well let him give you a good shoot on the chin. You won't ever do that again. If by chance the opponent does there are ways to immobilize his hands. Just takes practice and routine to develop the skills.

I agree with you it makes us more vulnerable in a fight, but so does a dastar and long hair.

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i did not post this thread to say i am confused

i stand firm on my rehat and will not change it

i posted it to tell about how shocked i was to see the reply from , 2nd jathedar of Hazur sahib

he told me that some companies require good dress up and want you to tie beard. so its not bad . just don't commit for bujar kureiths :|

even if i explained him rehat , he said , we shouldn't be kattar :|

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