Nishan Sahib Burnt In Hyderabad

[cool water]

With the electing of Hindu nationalist Nehendra modi he has been given a clear mandate to protect the hindu civilisation by the voting population that see's itself under the growing threat of islamic population demographics and missionaries.

So you are going to see alot of interesting developments with the curbing of special religious liberties (such as hajj pilgrimage allowance) that Indian muslims enjoyed with the Indian congress party (who they usually voted for). And various schemes will be rolled out to blame Muslims or other minority groups for staring trouble but ultimately It will be muslim community that will need to pay the price and forced in one way or another to either revert back to their hindu heritage / ancestry or migrate to a muslim nation.

[Jonny101]

This rosy picture of united minorities against India is not an exact reality. Muslims have more than enough reason to go after Sikhs even today. Most probably see us as being Hindus anyway. Divide and rule tactics are often used in a proxy war. From a military perspective, swift gains are required. After the '84 debacle, the ISI probably possesses reservations about interfering in Sikh-Indian affairs. Muslims on the other hand however are a guaranteed bloc, a majority of whom can be bent to do their bidding. Simranjeet Singh Maan might promulgate the idea of a buffer Khalistan between Pakistan and India, but most likely Pakistan does not agree with this notion. What's there to guarantee that Khalistan will not become another India? Thus, it would be far more easier to radicalise Islamic youth in Muslim dominated regions, and set them against the non-Muslims. A great excuse has already come their way. The ascension of Modi and the BJP to power.

Those pictures are not clear enough to establish anything. All they have to do is start the blame game and events will play out themselves.

You're not making any sense. Since the 80s, ISI has supported the Khalistan movement. Why all of a sudden would they reverse their policy without any reason and turn Sikhs into their enemies?

As for Khalistan, even if it does become "another India" atleast the Sikhs will not be under the political domination of the Hindus. The only thing that will make Muslims of India more militant are the crazy Modi supporters who are using terrorist tactics to intimidate Muslims. Take a look at this video and see for your self

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dfd_1396569928

ISI does not have to do anything when Modi supporters are doing their work for them. There is a way to do things, but bullying around the old and the weak is really pathetic.

[13Mirch]

You're not making any sense. Since the 80s, ISI has supported the Khalistan movement. Why all of a sudden would they reverse their policy without any reason and turn Sikhs into their enemies?

As for Khalistan, even if it does become "another India" atleast the Sikhs will not be under the political domination of the Hindus. The only thing that will make Muslims of India more militant are the crazy Modi supporters who are using terrorist tactics to intimidate Muslims. Take a look at this video and see for your self

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dfd_1396569928

ISI does not have to do anything when Modi supporters are doing their work for them. There is a way to do things, but bullying around the old and the weak is really pathetic.

The Khalistan movement failed. Why did it fail due to a number of factors, amongst the being discord between militants. Do you really think the ISI will risk supporting any such operation again? Secondly regarding 'another India' that was from a potential Pakistani Perspective, not an indication for you to emotionalise the risks of Hindu nationalism in India. And other than the sporadic conspiracy theory in Indian Media Outlet, what independent proof is there that Pakistan profoundly supports the Khalistan movement?

With the electing of Hindu nationalist Nehendra modi he has been given a clear mandate to protect the hindu civilisation by the voting population that see's itself under the growing threat of islamic population demographics and missionaries.

So you are going to see alot of interesting developments with the curbing of special religious liberties (such as hajj pilgrimage allowance) that Indian muslims enjoyed with the Indian congress party (who they usually voted for). And various schemes will be rolled out to blame Muslims or other minority groups for staring trouble but ultimately It will be muslim community that will need to pay the price and forced in one way or another to either revert back to their hindu heritage / ancestry or migrate to a muslim nation.

With the electing of Hindu nationalist Nehendra modi he has been given a clear mandate to protect the hindu civilisation by the voting population that see's itself under the growing threat of islamic population demographics and missionaries.

So you are going to see alot of interesting developments with the curbing of special religious liberties (such as hajj pilgrimage allowance) that Indian muslims enjoyed with the Indian congress party (who they usually voted for). And various schemes will be rolled out to blame Muslims or other minority groups for staring trouble but ultimately It will be muslim community that will need to pay the price and forced in one way or another to either revert back to their hindu heritage / ancestry or migrate to a muslim nation.

Modi and co. have perpetually made their agenda evident. 'Hindustan for Hindus.' With such a radical polity in power, Muslims are bound to blame minorities such as Sikhs who (lets face it) have fought for India despite their treatment. Secondly from a religious viewpoint it does not require much to fuel anti-infidel sympathies in India's Muslim populace, there might as well be a religious reason beyond targeting Sikhs in Hyderabad. Thirdly with Hindus in power, not many Muslims will target them. The last round after Ayodhya inflicted them with heavy casualties and status damage. Their reputation, globally, is not at it's best presently. India on the other hand is an emerging superpower, and many nations will probably ignore Hindu nationalism as long as it remains confined to India alone. Either way there will be no strong Muslim reaction to Modi, on a national platform, but minorities of course will be targeted.

[cool water]

The Khalistan movement failed. Why did it fail due to a number of factors, amongst the being discord between militants. Do you really think the ISI will risk supporting any such operation again? Secondly regarding 'another India' that was from a potential Pakistani Perspective, not an indication for you to emotionalise the risks of Hindu nationalism in India. And other than the sporadic conspiracy theory in Indian Media Outlet, what independent proof is there that Pakistan profoundly supports the Khalistan movement?

Modi and co. have perpetually made their agenda evident. 'Hindustan for Hindus.' With such a radical polity in power, Muslims are bound to blame minorities such as Sikhs who (lets face it) have fought for India despite their treatment. Secondly from a religious viewpoint it does not require much to fuel anti-infidel sympathies in India's Muslim populace, there might as well be a religious reason beyond targeting Sikhs in Hyderabad. Thirdly with Hindus in power, not many Muslims will target them. The last round after Ayodhya inflicted them with heavy casualties and status damage. Their reputation, globally, is not at it's best presently. India on the other hand is an emerging superpower, and many nations will probably ignore Hindu nationalism as long as it remains confined to India alone. Either way there will be no strong Muslim reaction to Modi, on a national platform, but minorities of course will be targeted.

The wise average indian muslim and indian sikh knows the games the Indian hindu extremist has played over the decades and will continue to play it to get minorities at each others throats. So they avoid escalating any disagreements or incidents that happen much to the annoyance to the hindu extremist that wants to ignite a fire and stand back enjoying the fruits of his evil work. So what happened in Hyderabad will be forgotten about in few days time.

The muslim extremist would not bother targeting the Sikhs because the results will only be negative for them, whereas if they target the hindu majority population it creates a huge divide between the majority hindu population and 2nd largest population group the muslims of india. This aids their agenda of radicalising the muslim to think they are at war pagan kafir hindus community determined to wipe them out. If they start on Sikhs they know Sikhs dont go around looking to start trouble but will give them a violent reply that will hurt them very badly and if they retaliate they will be wasting their resources on an another minority oppressed group within India for nothing. Nor do Sikhs want to see any faith group or religion wiped out as its against Sikhism to do this so muslim scholars, political or militant leaders are not dumb they know not to fight Sikhs if they have a brain.

...but for the Hindu its vital for the survival of his civilisation, religion and nation that Islam is pushed back as far as possible back to arabia... because quran and hadiths directly call for attack/conquest on hind and the wiping out of the idol worshipping pagans (which are the hindus). This is a very real reality, muslims fought, invaded and ruled over hindu populated land for 800years. They gave the mountains in afghanistan the name hindu kush meaning where the hindus were killed

Also if we look at hindu scriptures like vedas and other scriptures they have no problem with causing genocides and mass killings of the enemy. Arjun did that with the aid of lord krishna in mahabharata...and in ramanyan lord ram ordered hanuman to ignite and destroy the civilisation of lanka. So if need be, for the hindu civilisation the hindu bramin priests will order the rest of the hindus to indulge in genocide against the enemy using techniques pioneered by chanakya.

So in conclusion we can see that its in the interests of the hindu extremists to cause isolation of the muslims. We see now the rise of Hindu nationalists that have now gained strength, they were in recent years involved in deceptive false flag minor attacks on muslims blamed on muslims themselves but later found out to have been carried out by right wing hindu extremists during indian congress party rule but were not properly tackled because rahul gandhi and congress party feared the wrath of the hindu establishment if they banned certain organisations. But now the game will step up for the hindutva forces as they are in power now.... so you will see alot of violence blamed on minority groups but were actually carried out by hindu jihadi's to give the pretext and excuse for the social and political backlash that follows.

[SSG19]

Prat

Right. So you what makes you call me a prat? Keep such pointless remarks to yourself if you have nothing productive to say.

[SSG19]

NO. That would be the worst move our people can do.

Okay, so what do we do? Just wait for more humiliation to be piled upon us?

[Jonny101]

Okay, so what do we do? Just wait for more humiliation to be piled upon us?

Okay so you are saying that because what happened in Hyderabad, the people of Malerkotla who have nothing to do with this incident should be slaughtered? do you not see anything wrong with this line of thinking?

Still not one knows who did this, and you are ready to slaughter innocent people.

[SSG19]

Okay so you are saying that because what happened in Hyderabad, the people of Malerkotla who have nothing to do with this incident should be slaughtered? do you not see anything wrong with this line of thinking?

Still not one knows who did this, and you are ready to slaughter innocent people.

My dear sir, trust me those katte from Malerkotla have no love for you. I am sure if Sikhs had done something in Hyderabad, those ***katte from Malerkotla wouldn't wait until all the facts were clear. They would have gone on rampage by now. We are dealing with an enemy that is not bound by logic or rational thinking. You have to treat them the way they deserve to be treated ie with full force.

[Mehtab Singh]

We are dealing with an enemy that is not bound by logic or rational thinking. You have to treat them the way they deserve to be treated ie with full force.

How about we start with the traitors within the qaum who happen to be in full Sikhi saroop?

[Jonny101]

My dear sir, trust me those katte from Malerkotla have no love for you. I am sure if Sikhs had done something in Hyderabad, those ***katte from Malerkotla wouldn't wait until all the facts were clear. They would have gone on rampage by now. We are dealing with an enemy that is not bound by logic or rational thinking. You have to treat them the way they deserve to be treated ie with full force.

Veer, you are talking hypothetically. If they were in large numbers, they would have done this or that.

Sikhs fight a defensive war not an offensive war. Sikhs don't start wars...If Muslims kill Sikhs, only then Sikhs can retaliate. It is against the teachings of Guru Sahib to slaughter innocents. And you don't even know who burnt the Nishan Sahib. And even if some Muslim did burn it, I don't think they deserve a genocide for this. What world are you living in?