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I am not talking about lust. I am talking about having a backbone. Yeah, punjabi guys do a lot of messed up things, but at the end of the day they have backbone. They know who they are and where they came from. This gives them some ground to stand on and assess their actions when they get too out of hand. Yet white people have lost this backbone. Their backbone has been lost. Today one might be trying to live as a Sikh, but tomorrow like a switch he can go off the handles and be the complete opposite. I don't disagree with you about a very small minority of Amritdhari boys want bollywood women as their wife. Yet these too have a backbone when it comes to the last ounce of respect. The issues in the punjabi community do exist, but they are at manageable level. White culture has destroyed the very foundation of any person who wants to live a decent life for the past two centuries. They have been zombies for too long and always revolt back to this type of living. They are born and raised as worldly followers. They have no roots. Punjabis have roots.

The original poster does not seem genuine about answering questions correctly. It seems as she already made her decision before posting here and was only looking for supporters for her decision. She has gone off on the deep end and will only return when that rock smacks her in the face. I think at the moment she can't be helped and will face reality down the road when it is too late.

With sincere respect...you have decided my fate that I will be rock smacked? Are you telling me that you know more than Ultimate God?

I have answered all questions. This is a forum and I am not able to put down A- Z of the situation. Yes I am looking for advice. Yes it might be in favor or not. Is it not the whole idea of requesting input on a board like this so that people can give their view points?

"White culture has destroyed the very foundation of any person who wants to live a decent life for the past two centuries. They have been zombies for too long and always revolt back to this type of living. They are born and raised as worldly followers. They have no roots. Punjabis have roots. "...Does anyone not see hatred in this sentence?

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Parents ! what do they know? hey they only gave birth to us cleaned us when we were dirty, fed us when we were hungry, kept us warm when we were cold, gave us medicine when we were sick , taught us to

Indeed your parents take care of you.love them as much as you can ..you get them once in your life. They are priceless .In love marriage ,only two hearts bloom....but in arrange marriage , you sacrifi

conversion to marry someone is not sikhi it must come from within by Guru ji blessing. one must feel the pang in their heart to be with Guru ji merely adopting bana or kesh is not sikhi. when one wa

Turban guy, I respect your views. I am not intending to convert or change or give up my religion. There is no concern about it. My boyfriend totally and 100 % respects my religion as well. If white men like sikh girls, then the same goes for sikh boys liking white girls. As long as the religion is not harmed and hampered with, there should be no inequality between the two examples right?

Is it appropriate to ask for conversion as per Sikhism principles? I understand for anand karaj, a sikh needs to marry another sikh. What about in general?

You intend to convert or change or Give up your religion or not.. Inhaa sikhi nu fark nai penda bcz Sikhi is all about karma di khed.. As already mentioned by Gurus "Only those people will become part of this Sikhi who have blessings of Ten Gurus... ..and it does not matter where were they born or raise in what religion or race one day they will become Gurus Son and Daughters..for SURE...

What I hate in you sikh Girls is that hypocrisy .. You said You do nitnem and attend sangat regularly and visit Gurudwara sahib g... so you tell me is it possible you are still busy in kaam? moh ? maya? Had ho gyi...

and If u want him to be see as sikh in future then Give him a lesson of sikhi... don't ask him for conversion but try to make him understand who will suffer the lose mostly ..obviously its you... Majority of the white people is culture less,,character less,, they don't have any morals , traditions.. Don't you see how Their Women are treated as sluts and materialised object? but I know for the sake of your lust and love you will ignore these things.. I really don't get you girls .. I mean how it is possible you see the Guy who does not even look like our Gurus no turban no beard..does not even look like a real Man then how do you girls fall so easily for other guys?

Anyways What I want to say marry him if you want to but don't marry him being Sikh or In anand Karaz Ceremony ... you have to choose one Your white bf or Sikhi or you have to bring him in sikh faith if you want both things within sikhi.. Choice is yours whether you bring Shame or fame to the name Kaur..........Sikhi is not forced on someone..btw you also sound from uk.

otherwise in General? you can go with Court marriage ..have a blessings of Uk court law..Have a sealed document of legal proof as blessings from them instead of sikh Gurus blessings..nobody will say you anything...

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Veer ji

I was just pointing out that all humans are suffering from the same Maya ... my husband works in the city and he would come home and occasionally share how he was flabbergasted and shocked at the Hijabwali bibian's behaviour , now he's from a country where basically nange lok phirde on the beaches so I can only imagine what he has seen. As he says they want to be judged by the look of modesty and be respected but then the clothes are tight, face is caked in makeup and then they come to see their boyfriends and grind up on them in public. it is pure hypocrisy, same at schools and uni the kids say one thing to Ma Pio then go totally off the rails when out of sight. The guys need to behave too it's not just the girls.

I believe when you watch Bollywood movies/serials in your home you create a rod for your own back especially if you are not installing Sikh values in your kids ... I don't have any of the channels, I also restrict the influence of hollywood as much as possible and my kids so far operate in Sikh mentality, they are questioning the results of what they see around them in life in terms of Sikh values , I am supremely thankful to Waheguru that they do engage their brains . Most family members who watch those filmi things don't think of anything on a deep level it's all superficial in my experience.

Those people who keep giving headspace to jaat paat are giving their valuable thoughts to Hindu mat rentfree. They are probably the same people who need to get their chanda sewa recognised by calling it out in ardas, insisting on having partysharty on gurudwara premises at the weddings too etc etc

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I know that my husband found my sikhi a definite megaplus , it gave him a place to be his true self not act up to being some kind of stereotypical jack-the-lad , it allows him to talk about spiritual stuff his family doesn't process or discuss possibly those gorian who like Gursikhs are like my husband they need a true partner. There is no doubt in my mind that Gursikhs are very attractive they are clean-living, spiritual, full of chardi kala and compassion what's not to like ? Unfortunately you can't legislate against stupid and that what these girls and guys and their parents are who more worried about fitting into filmi stereotypes than having true meaning in their live

hijaab waaliyaan bibyaan nu Goli maaroo... apnaa aap swaar lvo ohi boht a...Ander ki ho reha va sanu eh nai dekhna..jo bahr ho reha va ohdi chinta karo... Chaar gallan saanu B sikh bibiyaan baare horaan bandya toh changiya Sun nu mil jaave asi oh din mange a raab toh.......ghatto ghatt hizaab waaliyan decent look de naal ta dikh diyaan hai ke nai?? Public wich adh nangiyan hoke ta nai Ghumdiya... Ghatto ghatt Apna Dharm ta follow krdiyan hai ke nai? Ithe apnyan de sir te ta chunni tak nai disdi... hor di ta gal b krde chnage nai lagde.. and whatever you said after this.. I do accept somehow....

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conversion to marry someone is not sikhi it must come from within by Guru ji blessing.

one must feel the pang in their heart to be with Guru ji merely adopting bana or kesh is not sikhi.

when one wants to be with Guru ji truly then they will go to the Guru with the head in their hand (sis thali teh tar keh) and nothing will stop them to ask for the daat of amrit !

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conversion to marry someone is not sikhi it must come from within by Guru ji blessing.

one must feel the pang in their heart to be with Guru ji merely adopting bana or kesh is not sikhi.

when one wants to be with Guru ji truly then they will go to the Guru with the head in their hand (sis thali teh tar keh) and nothing will stop them to ask for the daat of amrit !

Veerji ...Main kehaa Swaaad Lya ditaa........:)

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veerji, sikhi kumoni bahoot okhi aah , lok tha samajdeh koi khel aah

is margh teh apna aph mitona pendah aah, man nu mar nah penda aah !!

Nah Veerji Nah... Man nu Marna nai ,,Man nu jitna Penda aah... Je Man hi Mar dita te Bande da Jameer b Mar javega...but first line boht great likhi... nyccoooo

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Hello all

I am a 32 year old sikh girl living with my parents. I have not taken Amrit but I am a sincere individual with full respect of my religion. I do Nitnem and join the Sangat at the Gurudwara Sahib. I understand I am not amritdhari but still request some input for my query.

Just to give a little background about my situation, I am in a relationship with an individual who is white for the past 6 months or so. I meet him once in a while and usually we just talk on the phone and via emails or messages. He is a great guy. He is respectful not only to me but also towards my religion and culture. We always talk about how things will work when we get married. He has no problem going to the Gurudwara or raising our children as sikhs. Also he never initiated any physical relationship as he understands the values of a sikh girl. Despite not meeting in person too much, we do get along very well and share the same beliefs towards life. I am a vegan and he totally supports me. In fact he stopped eating meat as he wants to support me not just in words. I can describe more qualities about him but to summarize we love each other and want to get married in a year or so. We are both busy and focused on our careers and again 6 months is too short of a time to make a such big decision. We want to get to know each other and get to that point. Unfortunately I can't do that as dating or meeting other men is not appropriate.

On the other hand I am being forced to say yes to an arranged match. I met the guy for 30 mins at a family get together and was asked to get married. This is a very tough for me as I feel I am being asked to give up on my relationship which I have full faith in. I am not able to tell my parents about him due to obvious reasons. My parents are so unhappy with me as I turned down the match they chose. They hate me and have said quite harsh words. I am being asked to leave my house.

I don't want to justify myself here but then I didn't plan to meet a guy and like him. I didn't go searching for a man especially a white man. We met and we clicked.I have always respected my family and did everything they asked of me. Be it choosing my university or my clothes. I always did what they wanted. I don't go out and party or drink and all. I have a small circle of friends and barely meet them. I have two jobs and I keep busy with my life. Am I wrong? Am I selfish as I am thinking about choosing my life partner and making this decision on my own? Does it make me less of a Sikh or a good daughter? I am heartbroken at the constant tension at home. No one is talking to me. My father told me that he wants me to leave if I am not going to get married to this guy or any other guy they choose.

I thank you all.

I forgot I didn't reply to OP. So where did u meet this guy?

U only met a few times, thats quick to make a life long decision. Also a 30 min interview is too to decide too.

I think it's ur first relationship and u have fell in love with him. He has no knowledge of ur background and cultural values or Sikhi. Ur parents thought they knew u better and trusted u would say yes as they chose who they thought is best for u. But they didn't know about this guy, and u should not marry somebody for the sake of it, u will be ruining the guys life too, and will end up in divorce.

I'm wondering u do nitnem and attend sangat then wat made u divert from that company ?

Looks like u have made ur decision, and a lot of people will be hurt, but think it through properly, think about after marriage, will he support u in ur hard times, and is he enough for u to leave ur family for. Don't do anything in anger or thinking u have no choice of who to marry. Explain to ur parents as it's not fair on them either, and sit down and talk it through, that u can't marry just anybody after 30 mins after knowing them. Maybe u haven't met a Sikh guy, that's y u are going for first choice with that guy.

Don't make any decisions u will regret later in life.

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Turban guy, I respect your views. I am not intending to convert or change or give up my religion. There is no concern about it. My boyfriend totally and 100 % respects my religion as well. If white men like sikh girls, then the same goes for sikh boys liking white girls. As long as the religion is not harmed and hampered with, there should be no inequality between the two examples right?

Is it appropriate to ask for conversion as per Sikhism principles? I understand for anand karaj, a sikh needs to marry another sikh. What about in general?

You can ask , I did but he wasn't ready although he kept his word and brought up his children in Sikhi and supports their rights wherever we are and even puts his folks straight about it. I understand it can be an intensely emotional subject but it's best dealt with before marriage .

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You guys are wasting your time preaching to the wrong listener. She didn't come here asking how to convert her white boyfriend to Sikhi. The way I see it, she probably wants to find a way to work things out so that she can (a.) have her parents blessings in order to marry the man of her choice; (b.) not break up with him and marry the guy her family chooses for her.

If you can advise her on that, good, otherwise please read other threads, and thank you.

Lets get one thing straight. I really don't want to say "Sikhi isn't for everyone", but we have to admit that "everyone cannot dare to be a Sikh". It is not Sikhi that is her issue, it is the Punjabi culture practiced by her folks. Her priority is not to find a Sikh guy, its to be with the one she claims to have "clicked with". So I would request to treat this scenario a bit differently. Its very easy to preach and advise someone when you have no idea what they're going through (this applies to me as well). So take a moment and think before you guys type whatever you are typing. Some of you already seem to have passed the verdict on the dude just because he is white.

To be honest, the only mistake she did in her life so far was perhaps coming to this forum asking for advise.

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You guys are wasting your time preaching to the wrong listener. She didn't come here asking how to convert her white boyfriend to Sikhi. The way I see it, she probably wants to find a way to work things out so that she can (a.) have her parents blessings in order to marry the man of her choice; (b.) not break up with him and marry the guy her family chooses for her.

If you can advise her on that, good, otherwise please read other threads, and thank you.

Lets get one thing straight. I really don't want to say "Sikhi isn't for everyone", but we have to admit that "everyone cannot dare to be a Sikh". It is not Sikhi that is her issue, it is the Punjabi culture practiced by her folks. Her priority is not to find a Sikh guy, its to be with the one she claims to have "clicked with". So I would request to treat this scenario a bit differently. Its very easy to preach and advise someone when you have no idea what they're going through (this applies to me as well). So take a moment and think before you guys type whatever you are typing. Some of you already seem to have passed the verdict on the dude just because he is white.

To be honest, the only mistake she did in her life so far was perhaps coming to this forum asking for advise.

Amazing post!! Must say.!! but ki kariye Veerji Idha de hypocrite lokaan de post pardhke Khoon kholda......fe reh nai hunda..

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I forgot I didn't reply to OP. So where did u meet this guy?

U only met a few times, thats quick to make a life long decision. Also a 30 min interview is too to decide too.

I think it's ur first relationship and u have fell in love with him. He has no knowledge of ur background and cultural values or Sikhi. Ur parents thought they knew u better and trusted u would say yes as they chose who they thought is best for u. But they didn't know about this guy, and u should not marry somebody for the sake of it, u will be ruining the guys life too, and will end up in divorce.

I'm wondering u do nitnem and attend sangat then wat made u divert from that company ?

Looks like u have made ur decision, and a lot of people will be hurt, but think it through properly, think about after marriage, will he support u in ur hard times, and is he enough for u to leave ur family for. Don't do anything in anger or thinking u have no choice of who to marry. Explain to ur parents as it's not fair on them either, and sit down and talk it through, that u can't marry just anybody after 30 mins after knowing them. Maybe u haven't met a Sikh guy, that's y u are going for first choice with that guy.

Don't make any decisions u will regret later in life.

I met him through work. Actually I quit the job and he approached me later. He didn't want to start co- worker romance. I dont meet him every weekend, but over the last 6 months we have met enough times to talk and discuss and see if we are compatible now and in future. Although surprising to some members here, I have not indulged in any in appropriate relationship with him. We both have that respect for each other and my culture. It is during these meets that he started learning more about my religion and my back ground and my values. I mentioned earlier, he turned vegetarian for me as I am a vegan. Just a small example but I saw it as a positive change. We talked about kids, how to raise them, our families and their compatibility etc.

Yes it is my first relationship but that also shows that I am not a girl who kept dating around to find the "right one" Nor did I intentionally go to find only a white guy. We met and we got along and we became friends and then the relationship progressed.

My parents did agree that they were rushing me but it is only because all the other girls they know of my old age of 32 are married. But they do want me to get married either to this match or any one else as soon as possible.

I dont want to be angry and of course despite understanding my parents well wishes, I dont want them to be angry either.

My only concern is to face the hurt and the shock that will be caused to them as I request them to meet my boy friend.

Hence I am not making a hasty decision.

thank you

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Amazing post!! Must say.!! but ki kariye Veerji Idha de hypocrite lokaan de post pardhke Khoon kholda......fe reh nai hunda..

I am not sure how I have been deemed to be a hypocrite but anyways you have a right to your opinion as well.

thank you

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