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I hear what you're saying, but there are times when you have to let them know that our love is not endless. The audacity of the muslims to carry out that attack on the Sikhs in saharanpur is unbelievable. How many muslim jamaats from india and outside have condemned their actions? That is when we know whether there are any good people from amongst them.

That's just the thing. While most of our people are trying to find a Hindu hand in all of this and still thinking the poorbia Muslims are innocent party in all of this (who were probably being forced to riot at gun point by the Hindus :biggrin2: ), the Muslims of India have still not condemned what their brethren have done in Saharanpur when they are clearly wrong. On one hand Sikhs in western UP are trying to act like honourary Muslims by doing Namaz with them, giving up their Gurdwaras so they can do Namaz in them, feeding them during Ramadhan month, giving their children education in Sikh schools yet none of this matters to them...They still rioted, attacked our Gurdwara, burned our businesses/shops and attacked Sikhs and while the Indian Muslims have not condemned this aggression. Far from condemning they are still saying they will not allow Sikhs to build on land owned by the Gurdwara! What we need today more than anything is an anakhi leader like Kartar Singh Jhabbar. Look at what he did during the Jhatka conference.

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What is interesting is that during Ramadhan, Muslims are not supposed to do these things as Ramadan is a " time of reflection" and "spiritual growth". What a load of codswallop.

Total manmat soch here. Khalsa can never touch an enemy's woman. Muslim women are our.sisters. Secondly, why should Punjabi muslims be punished for what bhayya muslims do.

Another factor in this issue is that the Gurdwara runs a number of schools in the area where a majority of students are Muslims. The Gurdwara committee needs to rethink their acts of charity and now r

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His name is Tajinder Singh not 'rinku' any way they can diminish us they try

Stop being a negative person. Rinku is his nickname, I have talked to Singhs in Saharanpur.

Singhs said he is in Chardikalaa and gave a message to our Qaum to stay united and accept his Fateh.

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Muslims (even seculars) will never openly condemn ISIS, Taliban, persecution of non Muslims but will jump at every oppertunity to show how Muslims are being discriminated in every country, cry about Gaza (because their intimidation does not work there).

We should stop this RSS-phobia as well, RSS handles issues much better than us when it comes to dealing Muslims or Christians. Secondly even Hyderabad riots were said to be orchestred by RSS while fact remains that there were several less publicised Muslim-Sikh riots in the past in Hyderabad too.

My main point which most people don't know, Muslim-Sikh riots have happened in Saharanpur before too. And there was no BJP govt back then.

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Stop being a negative person. Rinku is his nickname, I have talked to Singhs in Saharanpur.

Singhs said he is in Chardikalaa and gave a message to our Qaum to stay united and accept his Fateh.

Guru Gobind Singh ji da Puttar should be respected and called by his full name as is Sikh maryada. Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru JI ki Fateh Tajinder Singh ji

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Still no Muslim organisation in India has come forward to condemn what happened to the Sikhs in Saharanpur.

Despite the aggression by the Poorbia Muslims, it is the Sikhs who are desperately making an effort to maintain friendship. Sorry to say but to me this looks more like a rape victim trying to reconcile with the rapist after the rape has occurred.

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http://www.sikh24.com/2014/07/30/sikhs-visit-jama-masjid-in-amritsar-to-greet-muslims-on-eid/#.U9n-A_ldXwg

Our people have lost all sense of Anakh, we no longer have the "Jabai Baan Lagiyo, Tabai Ros Jagiyo" mindset of Guru Gobind Singh Jee and instead we are adopting the "turn the other cheek" philosophy of Jesus.

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What you want with all guys preaching that 'all religions lead to God' 'bhagats were Hindus and Muslims' - we have no sense of niarapan or Anakh. Wait and watch what happens in Punjab, Muslims are rising there too, mark my words - the recent Hindu-Muslim riots in Ludhiana are just the start.

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Still no Muslim organisation in India has come forward to condemn what happened to the Sikhs in Saharanpur.

Despite the aggression by the Poorbia Muslims, it is the Sikhs who are desperately making an effort to maintain friendship. Sorry to say but to me this looks more like a rape victim trying to reconcile with the rapist after the rape has occurred.

http://www.sikh24.com/2014/07/30/sikhs-visit-jama-masjid-in-amritsar-to-greet-muslims-on-eid/#.U9n-A_ldXwg

Our people have lost all sense of Anakh, we no longer have the "Jabai Baan Lagiyo, Tabai Ros Jagiyo" mindset of Guru Gobind Singh Jee and instead we are adopting the "turn the other cheek" philosophy of Jesus.

Dashmesh Pita di bani lokan ne chadia es karke kamzori peh ge.British sanoo 'peaceful' label laa ke sikhan nu avdi itihass te asliat toun ko sau door kita . This suited them to make us easy to control ...now hindu sikh bhai bhai ....is pushing us towards being swallowed up by these hindustan for hindus types." wake up" is the battle cry now sadda koe nah beli ... sare sanoo katam karana chaunda han.

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What you want with all guys preaching that 'all religions lead to God' 'bhagats were Hindus and Muslims' - we have no sense of niarapan or Anakh. Wait and watch what happens in Punjab, Muslims are rising there too, mark my words - the recent Hindu-Muslim riots in Ludhiana are just the start.

This is a huge mistake our people have done for the last century. Our people have been trying to make friends with others but in the wrong way by downgrading Sikhi by saying(Lying actually) that "all religions are equal", "the Bhagats were hindu or muslim and not Sikhs". That's why we have plenty of misguided Sikhs doing pooja like Hindus or Namaz like Muslims and even opening their Gurdwaras up to them to perform their non Sikh practices. And still we have not gained their friendship by doing all of this

The biggest mistake our people are doing is by attacking Dasam Bani which over and over repeats the futility of the philosophies of Veds and Katebs and shows the uniqueness and superiority of Khalsa Dharm over all others. By denying Dasam Bani, Sikhs are losing their martial spirit and Anakhi nature

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This is a huge mistake our people have done for the last century. Our people have been trying to make friends with others but in the wrong way by downgrading Sikhi by saying(Lying actually) that "all religions are equal", "the Bhagats were hindu or muslim and not Sikhs". That's why we have plenty of misguided Sikhs doing pooja like Hindus or Namaz like Muslims and even opening their Gurdwaras up to them to perform their non Sikh practices. And still we have not gained their friendship by doing all of this

The biggest mistake our people are doing is by attacking Dasam Bani which over and over repeats the futility of the philosophies of Veds and Katebs and shows the uniqueness and superiority of Khalsa Dharm over all others. By denying Dasam Bani, Sikhs are losing their martial spirit and Anakhi nature

The attackers of Dasam Bani should be treated as agents of the enemy even if from within Sikh ranks , if Any Sikh scholar starts kintu prantu over Khalsa rehit, Amrit Shakna those can be labelled the same ..Sehajdhari Sikh di arth seega jehde dooje mazhab 'chon nikli te sikhi kabool kitta per hale sikh rehit seek reha han Khalsa nahin...hun ta eh misuse hoe reha hai ke koe mona, sharabi kababi apne ap nu sikh akk sakhda bina gurmat anusar jeevan chalounda ... ehde kartootan sadi kaum de naam gutter'ch rol ditte

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LAHORE: Law enforcement agencies were directed on Thursday to tighten security at Hindu and Sikh temples and shrines. A circular issued by the Internal Security Wing of the Ministry of Interior informed police officials that a letter from the Shrines Wing of the Evacuee Trust Property Board reported of regular terrorist threats against Hindu and Sikh religious places. Officials said that a number of shrines and temples were vulnerable to attacks and had routinely featured in terrorist hit lists. The ministry instructed police to ensure fool proof security for minority religious places in Lahore, Rawalpindi and Nankana Sahib. Police officials were also directed to finalise detailed security plans to ensure the safety of Hindu and Sikh pilgrims from foreign countries.

Published in The Express Tribune, August 1st, 2014.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/742811/terror-threat-tight-security-ordered-for-temples/

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Point is not the Hindu role in this. But what was the majboori of a mob of tens of thousands of Indian Muslims who rioted against Sikhs and this after the way SFJ tried to show good will by fighting for Muslim victims of 2002 Gujarat riots which has nothing to do with us. Then During 2002 riots, Sikhs were sending trucks of food for Muslim riot victims. Sikhs need to keep their nose out of other people's business because Indian Muslims will never appreciate any of these good will gestures. We need to read and learn from history instead of learning from practical expereince when we get Dhokha from the people we help

Agree veer . There should be protest in Malerkotla let the Muslims feel that if you go against Sikhs we will get after you . Hindus organizes march in Malerkotla to protest against the killing of Vidhu jain but we Sikhs dont supported them to please our so called friends but what we get ?

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By the way, about 2 weeks ago in Boston we had Sikhs protesting against Israel for killing Palestinians, and few days ago we saw Sikhs start a petition asking President Obama to refuse Modi entry into US as he was responsible for the massacre of 3000 Muslims in Gujarat. I have already seen a number of opinions and videos on Facebook claiming these Saharanpur clashes to be a conspiracy hatched by the Hindutva forces.

Either we are still not aware as to who our real friends and real enemies are, or we fail to categorize who is our worst enemy, i.e. on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the worst enemy, where would you place Hindus and where would you place Muslims?

Muslims are the biggest enemy no doubt about it and regarding Hindus it depend where are they from no problem with North eastern and South Indians Hindus and no friendship with Punjabi and Haryanvi types Hindus .

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I hear what you're saying, but there are times when you have to let them know that our love is not endless. The audacity of the muslims to carry out that attack on the Sikhs in saharanpur is unbelievable. How many muslim jamaats from india and outside have condemned their actions? That is when we know whether there are any good people from amongst them.

We will how many muslims will come out to help Sikhs ? I doubt even one will come .

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This is a huge mistake our people have done for the last century. Our people have been trying to make friends with others but in the wrong way by downgrading Sikhi by saying(Lying actually) that "all religions are equal", "the Bhagats were hindu or muslim and not Sikhs". That's why we have plenty of misguided Sikhs doing pooja like Hindus or Namaz like Muslims and even opening their Gurdwaras up to them to perform their non Sikh practices. And still we have not gained their friendship by doing all of this

The biggest mistake our people are doing is by attacking Dasam Bani which over and over repeats the futility of the philosophies of Veds and Katebs and shows the uniqueness and superiority of Khalsa Dharm over all others. By denying Dasam Bani, Sikhs are losing their martial spirit and Anakhi nature

We should organize Dasam Granth akhand paath in Saharanpur to give our Sikhs more bir ras and after that weapons should be distributed among sangat .

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We should organize Dasam Granth akhand paath in Saharanpur to give our Sikhs more bir ras and after that weapons should be distributed among sangat .

weapons without training are as good as nothing in the least or can be turned on the unskilled holder at the worst. I think hand to hand drills and martial arts training should be a part of every Gurdwara. But knowing these SGPC giddars they would probably put there big noses in and get our Bhai beta arrested or attacked to keep us down . Time to call in Dal Khalsa to train the youths and men .

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