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Forty-four cremations in the last 48 hours and the villagers in Rajpur Bhatta are still looking for the dead. On September 4, when they gathered at the house of Sukwinder Singh to join his baraat, no one imagined that his three-year-long love story with Jatinder Kour from nearby Laam would have such an end. They had travelled barely 2 km from home when Sukwinder, 24, was dead and so were 63 others in his wedding procession, after their bus fell into the swollen Jhameerh nullah which falls en route.

Five days later, the hunt for the remaining 20 is still on, with local villagers forming groups to search the nullah waters from Jhameerh to Beri Pattan, right along the Line of Control (LoC). Carrying long bamboo sticks and ropes, they venture in and, at places, even dive under to ensure they dont miss anything.

The bodies are being discovered by Army troops near the LoC even at Palanwalla in Akhnoor tehsil near Jammu, 65 km away, where these appear to have been washed up by the Chenab from the side of Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK). Since Sunday, troops of Akhnoor-based 10 Division have found three bodies, including that of one-and-a-half-year-old Harneet, on the Chenab banks. The Jhameerh nullah merges with Nowshera nullah and flows into PoK from Beri Pattan in Rajouri district on the Indian side of the LoC. After nearly 1 km, it flows back to the Indian side to join the Chenab in Palanwalla area.

Daljit Singh, an ex-serviceman, has come to Nonial from Upper Nonial near Nowshera in search of his brother-in-law Manmohan Singh. Let the body of someones relative be found, if not ours, he says.

Many families have been completely wiped out, says Harbans Singh, a forest guard, adding that there is no household in the village which is not in mourning. Sukhwinder, who worked as a daily wager with the Postal Department, and Jatinder, an 18-year-old college student, met three years ago. They both travelled to Nowshera every day and met on local matadors or buses. A year ago, their relationship became serious when both joined the same computer coaching institute at Nowshera. Their families were already related to each other, and a match was quickly arranged.

Sukhwinder had even begun construction of his own separate house to settle down after marriage. His father Bhagat Singh says the two decided everything about the place, right from the architecture and the colour of the walls to the putty on the ceilings and curtains, exchanging photographs on WhatsApp. As she wanted a particular design for curtains, these were purchased from Rajouri, 45 km away, Bhagat Singh says.

An inverter bought by Sukhwinder to install in the new house is yet to arrive because of the rains. On September 4, the baraatis had waited for nearly three hours for the rains to stop, before over 200 of them decided to leave for Laam in three buses and some light motor vehicles around 11 am. Sukhwinder, along with his friends and some wedding material, was in the first car, says his elder brother Darbara Singh. On finding the Jhameerh in spate and water flowing over a bridge that falls en route, Sukhwinder came out of the car. His uncle and friends drove through and reached the other side of the nullah, says Darbara. Seeing them go through safely, the baraatis asked Sukhwinder to get into the bus just behind. However, he decided to wait for it to pass as well. When that too crossed safely, Sukhwinder got into the next bus. By then, this bus had over 70 people, as people travelling in their cars and two-wheelers had also boarded it because of the incessant rains. The bus had reached the middle of the bridge when its front wheel, on the drivers side, went into a deep crater and lost balance. The bus fell into the nullah. Those watching the bus jumped in and pulled out four people through the windows, while three others swam to safety on their own. Armyman Rattan Singh had come home from Pathankot on September 3 night for the wedding. He along with his wife Amrit Kaur and daughter, Harneet, were among the dead. The body of his wife is still missing. Another Army personnel, Swarn Singh, had come on five-day leave from Arunachal Pradesh for the marriage along with wife Ranbir Kaur and daughters Gurmeet, 3, and Tanya, who was just one-and-a-half month old. Ranbir and his daughters had got out of a car in which they were travelling to board the ill-fated bus. Now, Swarn is looking for their bodies. The entire border road, including the bridge, is maintained by the General Reserve Engineer Force (GREF). The crater had been there for the last few years, with local people drawing attention of GREF officials towards it from time to time, but to no avail, says Harpreet Kaur. Since the accident, however, the crater has been filled up by the GREF.

Two days later, 13 bodies, including that of Sukhwinder, were pulled out of the bus, which was brought to the bank with the help of cranes by Army troops after water level in the nullah went down. Thirty-one others were found floating at different places, right up to Chammb-Jourian in Akhnoor near Jammu. While police confirmed 64 deaths, villagers put the number between 70-80, saying that there was no count of infants and minor children sitting in their parents lap. The police, Army and local villagers have jointly formed groups to look for the bodies. The authorities across the LoC in PoK and Army troops of the Akhnoor-based 10 Division have been informed as well, said Nowsheras Additional SP Rakesh Kumar. While the police have registered a case, they do not know whether to blame the driver who is among the dead or the GREF engineers for the negligence. Congress legislator Ravinder Sharma says GREF engineers are responsible and a case should be registered against them. None of the ministers from Chief Minister Omar Abdullahs cabinet have visited the relatives of the victims so far. DCP Shantmanu and IGP Rajesh Kumar visited Rajpur Bhatta and announced Rs 1.5 lakh ex gratia relief from the state government for the relatives of the deceased. The village has over 350 families, majority them Sikh, who are otherwise a minority in the state. Where have the funds allocated by the Centre for development of such minority pockets, as per Sarkaria Commission recommendations, gone? asks Congress leader Ravinder Sharma.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/washed-away-in-raging-floods-a-three-year-love-story-64-lives/

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British citizens stranded in Kashmir as floods wreak havoc in region

Families are struggling to contact around 50-60 British people as mobile phone networks have collapsed in the disaster

Jason Burke in Delhi and Josh Halliday
theguardian.com, Friday 12 September 2014 10.24 EDT

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Sikhs use a raft to assist with flood relief in central Srinagar on 12 September 2014. Indian Kashmir's main city has 'drowned completely' under floodwaters, a senior official said. Photograph: Tauseef Mustafa/AFP/Getty Images


More than 50 British citizens have been stranded for days by massive floods in Kashmir that have displaced more than a million people and killed over 450.

Overwhelmed authorities have struggled to cope with the extent of the disaster. On Thursday, the Pakistani army were forced to blow holes in dykes, inundating farmland, to protect major population centres.

Though waters have receded in recent days in India, swollen rivers fed by heavy monsoon rain continued to threaten major cities in neighbouring Pakistan. Further rains are forecast for the weekend.

This year's floods in Kashmir are the deadliest in the territory in 50 years. "Srinagar has drowned completely, it's unrecognisable. Almost everything is in ruins, it is just unimaginable," Mehraj-Ud-Din Shah, state disaster response force chief of the Kashmir region, told AFP news agency by phone. He said work was "in full swing" to rescue people.

"Even now, around [100,000] people are believed to be stranded in different places," he said.

Other estimates of those awaiting rescue were much higher, with some putting the figure at over half a million. Some of the stranded British citizens are in hotels or relief camps in or around Srinagar, the main city in Indian-administered parts of the disputed Himalayan former princedom. Others are in more remote villages.

Many have been unable to contact their families as mobile phone networks have collapsed in and around Srinagar.

Khalid Suhail, 35, from Shepperton in Surrey, has been unable to contact his mother and sister in Kashmir for over a week. "Like a lot of people, every day we're trying different numbers to speak to them but there's no connectivity. The whole infrastructure there has basically collapsed, it's all under water," he said.

Suhail described as "shocking" the relief efforts so far, calling on the British government to do more to help Britons caught up in the disaster.

"The relief efforts are very, very slow, there's hardly anything going on. We don't even know the full scale of it yet – there has been no news from the villages – and we hear they're saving the ministers and politicians first and the common people are a second priority for them," he said.

"We had a week of worry. We were just stuck not knowing. It's a massive relief," said the brother of one Birmingham-based woman, a mature student who had been staying with a friend in his village and who managed to contact her family after six days. He did not want to be named.

British officials in Delhi said they had compiled a list of "50 to 60" citizens who were stranded in Kashmir, but had no reports of any casualties. The names have been forwarded to Indian authorities who were working to evacuate them. Anyone in Kashmir was advised to stay in their hotels or other accommodation and await rescuers, one official said.

In London, a Foreign Office spokeswoman said: "We are aware of the floods in Pakistan and India. We stand ready to provide consular assistance to British nationals affected."

The British-Indian community has deep links with the Kashmir region. Many Kashmiris came to Britain in the 1950s and 1960s. Many of those stranded have family connections in Srinagar and elsewhere. Others are tourists.

Srinagar has also been hit by looting, leading some householders to risk their lives and stay with their homes to protect their property.

Jamal Ahmed Dar, who lives close to Srinagar's Dal Lake, said his neighbours had already caught two looters red-handed. "We came across and then caught up with two young men on a boat who we didn't recognise," he said.

"When we searched them, we found they had cash and other belongings that they couldn't account for. We gave them a bit of a slap, took the stuff back off them and then handed it over to the rescue coordinators."


A spokesman for Save the Children in Srinagar described tens of thousands of people "living on streets, parks, temporary shelters in mosques and Sikh temples".

"In most areas of the city, power supply has not been restored. Mobile phones are not working in most of the city and are erratic at best. There is severe scarcity of clean water. Food and fuel stocks are running low and those who can afford it are buying large quantities of basic items like medicines, salt and food stocks," the spokesman said.

An analysis by the Delhi-based Centre for Science and Environment (CSE) warned that India would face "more and more" extreme weather events in the future.

Last year, flooding in northern India killed more than 5,000 people and caused massive damage. In 2010, the worst floods in Pakistan in living memory killed 2,000 and caused an estimated $10bn of damage.

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According to United Sikhs ground volunteers, at least 30-35 thousand Sikhs have been affected by the floods. At the moment, Srinagar is one of the only areas which are accessible by air; the other three districts are completely cut off from any form of communication and aid. Furthermore, funerals have been halted as there is no room or time for them to be performed.

A Gurdwara which has not been affected by the floods, based in the Budgam district, called Shaheed Bunga Sahib, has become a place refuge for many survivors, Sikh, Muslim and Hindus.

At present there are 4000-5000 people at the Shaheed Bunga Sahib Gurdwara and langar is being served three to four times a day to all victims.”

http://sikhsiyasat.net/2014/09/10/united-sikhs-launches-kashmir-relief-mission-issues-appeal-for-donations/

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This northern command has requested to the head of GOLDEN TEMPLE to prepare langer for 1 lakh people everyday at Kashmir which was happily agreed and the sewa will be started from tomorrow which will be air lifted from Amritsar to Kashmir everyday. That 1 lakh food packets also sent daily started from today

http://u4uvoice.com/jammu-kashmir-news/golden-temple-prepare-langer-1-lakh/

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source: United Sikhs Facebook page

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UNITED SIKHS KASHMIR FLOOD RELIEF

APPEAL:

Could this be the worst sikh catastrophe since 1984? Are they really getting help as shown by media ?

People need help now..they need food aid medicine baby milk/food.

Please donate now

Gurfateh

Thank you for your kind gesture to help thousands of people in Kashmir, including some 30000 Sikhs.

UNITED SIKHS is registered as an NGO in india and has tax exempt status in india. Our bank account details are as follows:

Punjab National Bank

Account name: UNITED SIKHS

acct nos : 1988002100188826; IFSC ( code) : PUNB0198800.

This account can only receive funds locally from India or from nri donors who have a valid indian passport. If you wish to donate from abroad, kindly visit our website at www.unitedsikhs.org for details of our offices abroad.

Kindly state what are the funds for and email us at admin-india@unitedsikhs.org the proof of remittance and your name and address to send a receipt that you can use to obtain a tax rebate.

Real time pic of our team leader Amrit pal singh and his team member from amritsar They have flown in 2600 kg of supplies with them. When asked have u got a place to rest n sleep in the Shadeed Bungah Gurdwara grounds..he smiles and yes the best spot in the whole world. .in the charan of the Guru..in the jorah gharr.

God bless them whom we have gone to save and keep US safe as our duty calls.

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ਿਜੰਦਗੀ ਮੋਤ ਨਾਲ ਜੂਝ ਰਹੀ ਗਰਭਵਤੀ ਿਹੰਦੂ ਭੈਣ ਗਰੀਮਾ ਿਜਸਨੇ ਸਭ ਕੁਝ ਹੜੑਾ ਦੋਰਾਨ ਗਵਾ ਿਦੱਤਾ,ਿਸੰਘਾ ਦੀ ਿਮਹਨਤ ਸਕਦਾ ਜਾਨ ਬਚੀ, ਲੜਕੇ ਨੰੂ ਿਦੱਤਾ ਜਨਮ................

ਬੀਬੀ ਨੇ ਿਸੱਖਾ ਦੇ ਿਕਰਦਾਰ ਨੰੂ ਵੇਖ ਕੇ ਆਪਣੇ ਨਵਜੰਮੇ ਲੜਕੇ ਨੰੂ ਬਣਾਿੲਆ ਿਸੱਖ ਨਾਮ ਰੱਖਿਆ

"ਯੁਵਰਾਜ ਿਸੰਘ"

********ਸਾਰਾ ਿਕੱਸਾ ਹੇਠਾ ਪੜੑੋ********

ਜੰਮੂ ਕਸ਼ਮੀਰ ਆੲੇ ਹੜੑਾ ਨੇ ਿਕਸੇ ਵੀ ਧਰਮ ਦੇ ਲੋਕਾ ਨੰੂ ਨਹੀ ਬਖਸਿਆ।ਸਰਕਾਰਾ ਵੱਲੋ ਭਾਵੇ ਕੀਤਾ ਿਗਆ ਿਵਤਕਰਾ ਸਾਫ ਿਦਖਾੲੀ ਿਦੰਦਾ ਹੈ।ਭਾਵੇ ਕਸ਼ਮੀਰ ਿਵੱਚ ਿਗਣਤੀ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ਵੀਰਾ ਦੀ ਿਜਆਦਾ ਹੈ।ਪਰ ਬਹੁਤ ਿਹੰਦੂ ਪਰਿਵਾਰਾ ਨੇ ਵੀ ਘਰ ਪਰਿਵਾਰ ਆਪਣਾ ਸਭ ਕੁਝ ਗਵਾ ਿਲਆ।ਿੲਨਾ ਿਵੱਚੋ ਿੲੱਕ ਗਰੀਮਾ ਨਾਮੀ ਿਹੰਦੂ ਗਰਭਵਤੀ ਭੈਣ ਦਾ ਵੀ ਘਰ ਬਾਰ ਸਭ ਕੁਝ ਉੱਜੜ ਿਗਆ।

ਿਸਹਤ ਖਰਾਬ ਹੋਣ ਕਾਰਨ ਸਰਕਾਰੇ ਦਰਬਾਰੇ ਸਭ ਪਾਸੇ ਮਦਦ ਦੀ ਗੁਹਾਰ ਲਗਾਉਦੀ ਰਹੀ।ਨਾ ਸਰਕਾਰਾ ਨੇ ਰਾਸ ਲੲੀ,ਨਾ ਹੀ ਿਕਸੇ ਹੋਰ ਭਾੲੀਚਾਰੇ ਨੇ।

ਆਖਰਕਾਰ ਜਦ ਗੁਰੂ ਘਰ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਜਦ ਬੀਬੀ ਨੇ ਗੁਹਾਰ ਲਗਾੲੀ ਤਾਂ AUSTRALIAN SIKH SUPPORT ਦੇ ਿਸੰਘ ਤਰੰੁਤ ਨੇੜਲੇ ਹਸਪਤਾਲ ਲੈ ਗੲੇ।ਡਾਕਟਰਾ ਨੇ ਬੀਬੀ ਦੀ ਹਾਲਤ ਨਾਜੁਕ ਦੱਸਦਿਆ ਵੱਡੇ ਹਸਪਤਾਲ ਭੇਜ ਿਦੱਤਾ।ਸ਼ੇਰੇ ਕਸ਼ਮੀਰ ਿੲਨਸੀਟੂਡ ਆਫ ਮੈਡੀਕਲ ਸਾਿੲੰਸ(SKIMS) ਹਸਪਤਾਲ ਪੁਜਦਿਆ ਸਾਰ ਡਾਕਟਰਾ ਨੇ ਦੱਸਿਆ ਕੇ ਬੀਬੀ ਦੇ ਬੱਚੇ ਨੰੂ ਬਚਾਿੲਆ ਨਹੀ ਜਾ ਸਕਦਾ।ਪਰ ਉਹ ਬੀਬੀ ਨੰੂ ਬਚਾਉਣ ਦੀ ਕੋਿਸਸ ਕਰਣਗੇ।ਿਸੰਘਾ ਨੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬਾਨ ਅੱਗੇ ਬੱਚੇ ਅਤੇ ਬੀਬੀ ਨੰੂ ਤੰਦਰੁਸਤੀ ਦੇਣ ਲੲੀ ਅਰਦਾਸ ਕੀਤੀ।

ਬੀਬੀ ਦੇ ਹਾਲਾਤ ਬਹੁਤ ਖਰਾਬ ਹੋਣ ਕਾਰਨ ਮਲ ਮੂਤਰ ਖੂਣ ਨਾਲ ਲਤਪਤ ਬੀਬੀ ਕੋਲ ਕੋੲੀ ਵੀ ਨੇੜੇ ਨਹੀ ਸੀ ਆ ਰਿਹਾ।ਿਸੰਘਾ ਨੇ ਆਪ ਹੀ ਬੀਬੀ ਦੀ ਸਾਫ ਸਫਾੲੀ ਕੀਤੀ।ਦਵਾੲੀਆ ਹਸਪਤਾਲ ਉਪਲਬੱਧ ਨਾ ਹੋਣ ਕਾਰਨ ਿਤੰਨ ਿਕਲੋਮੀਟਰ ਦੋੜ ਕੇ ਆਉਣਾ ਜਾਉਣਾ ਪੈਦਾ ਸੀ।ਅੋਰਤਾ ਦਾ ਹਸਪਤਾਲ ਹੋਣ ਕਾਰਨ ਕੇਵਲ ਅੋਰਤਾ ਹੀ ਅੰਦਰ ਜਾ ਸਕਦੀਆ ਸਨ।ਪਰ ਡਾਕਟਰ ਨੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਦੇ ਿਸੱਖਾ ਤੇ ਭਰੋਸਾ ਕਰਦਿਆ ਪੂਰੀ ਖੁੱਲ ਦੇ ਿਦੱਤੀ।

ਬੀਬੀ ਕੲੀ ਘੰਟੇ ਦਰਦ ਨਾਲ ਤੜਫਦੀ ਰਹੀ।ਖੂਨ ਦੀ ਕਮੀ ਹੋਣ ਕਾਰਨ ਿਸੰਘਾ ਨੇ ਆਪਣਾ ਖੂਨ ਬੀਬੀ ਨੰੂ ਿਦੱਤਾ।ਪਰਿਵਾਰ ਦਾ ਕੋੲੀ ਜੀਅ ਕੋਲ ਨਹੀ ਸੀ।ਕੋਲ ਸਨ ਕੁਝ ਸਮਾ ਪਹਿਲਾ ਿਮਲੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਦੇ ਿਸੰਘ।ਬੱਚੇ ਦੀ ਆਸ ਤਾ ਡਾਕਟਰਾ ਵੱਲੋ ਛੱਡ ਹੀ ਿਦੱਤੀ ਗੲੀ ਸੀ।ਕੋਿਸਸ ਕੀਤੀ ਜਾ ਰਹੀ ਸੀ ਬੀਬੀ ਗਰੀਮਾ ਨੰੂ ਬਚਾਉਣ ਦੀ।

ਆਖਰਕਾਰ ਿਸੰਘਾ ਵੱਲੋ ਕੀਤੀ ਅਰਦਾਸ ਪਰਵਾਨ ਹੋੲੀ।ਬੀਬੀ ਨੇ ਤੰਦੁਰਸਤ ਬੱਚੇ ਨੰੂ ਜਨਮ ਿਦੱਤਾ।ਡਾਕਟਰ ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਦੇ ਿੲਸ ਚਮਤਕਾਰ ਨੰੂ ਵੇਖ ਹੈਰਾਨ ਰਹਿ ਗੲੇ।ਸਾਰੇ ਹਸਪਤਾਲ ਿਵੱਚ ਖੁਸੀ ਵਾਲਾ ਮਾਹੋਲ ਛਾ ਿਗਆ।ਸਾਰੇ ਹਸਪਤਾਲ ਵੱਲੋ ਿਸੰਘਾ ਵੱਲੋ ਕੀਤੇ ਗੲੇ ਮਹਾਨ ਕਾਰਜ ਦੀ ਸਲਾਘਾ ਕੀਤੀ ਗੲੀ।ਡਾਕਟਰਾ ਵੱਲੋ ਿਸੱਖ ਕੋਮ ਦਾ ਤਹਿ ਿਦਲੋ ਧੰਨਵਾਦ ਕੀਤਾ ਿਗਆ ਿਜਨਾ ਘਰ ਬਾਰ ਛੱਡ ਕੇ ਹੜੑ ਪੀੜਤਾ ਦੀ ਮਦਦ ਕੀਤੀ।

ਬੀਬੀ ਗਰੀਮਾ ਨੇ ਜਦ ਿਸੰਘਾ ਨੰ ਿਮਲੀ।ਬੀਬੀ ਦੇ ਅੱਥਰੂ ਵਹਿ ਤੁਰੇ।ਆਪਣੇ ਨਵਜੰਮੇ ਬੱਚੇ ਨੰੂ ਵੇਖ ਿਸੰਘਾ ਨੰੂ ਕਹਿਣ ਵਾਸਤੇ ਕੋੲੀ ਸਬਦ ਨਹੀ ਸਨ।

ਅਾਖਰਕਾਰ ਿੲਹੀ ਕੇਹਾ "ਮੈ ਚਾਹਤੀ ਹੋ ਮੇਰਾ ਬੇਟਾ ਭੀ ਆਪ ਜੇਸਾ ਿਸੱਖ ਬਣੇ" ਬੱਚੇ ਦਾ ਨਾਮ ਵੀ "ਯੁਵਰਾਜ ਿਸੰਘ" ਰੱਖਿਆ ਿਗਆ।

ਬੀਬੀ ਜੀ ਅਤੇ ਬੱਚਾ ਿਬਲਕੁਲ ਠੀਕ ਠਾਕ ਹਨ।

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    • How is it going to help? The link is of a Sikh hunter. Fine, but what good does that do the lazy Sikh who ate khulla maas in a restaurant? By the way, for the OP, yes, it's against rehit to eat khulla maas.
    • Yeah, Sikhs should do bhog of food they eat. But the point of bhog is to only do bhog of food which is fit to be presented to Maharaj. It's not maryada to do bhog of khulla maas and pretend it's OK to eat. It's not. Come on, bro, you should know better than to bring this Sakhi into it. Is this Sikh in the restaurant accompanied by Guru Gobind Singh ji? Is he fighting a dharam yudh? Or is he merely filling his belly with the nearest restaurant?  Please don't make a mockery of our puratan Singhs' sacrifices by comparing them to lazy Sikhs who eat khulla maas.
    • Seriously?? The Dhadi is trying to be cute. For those who didn't get it, he said: "Some say Maharaj killed bakras (goats). Some say he cut the heads of the Panj Piyaras. The truth is that they weren't goats. It was she-goats (ਬਕਰੀਆਂ). He jhatka'd she-goats. Not he-goats." Wow. This is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard in relation to Sikhi.
    • Instead of a 9 inch or larger kirpan, take a smaller kirpan and put it (without gatra) inside your smaller turban and tie the turban tightly. This keeps a kirpan on your person without interfering with the massage or alarming the masseuse. I'm not talking about a trinket but rather an actual small kirpan that fits in a sheath (you'll have to search to find one). As for ahem, "problems", you could get a male masseuse. I don't know where you are, but in most places there are professional masseuses who actually know what they are doing and can really relieve your muscle pains.
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