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Once again, whilst watching the sikh channel, I see jazzy b, singing about "sant siphai" promoting this new film!

Why Jazzy B? He does enough single handedly to promote everything other than Gurmat, he then dons bana, parades around with a gun and sword telling "US" about sikhi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Then on the next channel it's >>>>>>>>

Surely this is no good for our youth, whilst were arguing about interfaith marriages within sikhi and it's detrimental affect, this guys giving enough other mixed messages of his own to a huge recipient audience much bigger than what our gurdware are reaching!!!!

I don't mind him doing what he does within the music industry along as he keeps sikhi out of it.

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He isnt the only sikh/panjabi singer to have sung songs for his career, and then sung dharmic songs on the side, which is seen as seva for the panth. He's my fave panjabi singer since the 90s, and fair enough he has done few songs, which i wasn't sure what he was thinking of at the time, but not many panjabi singers from the west have kept it so raw n desi like jazzy. Bhangra bands from the 80s pioneered bhangra/panjabi music, and also released dharmic songs on the side, jazzy isn't doing anyfink different. He was the 1st singer unquestionably who supported balwant singh rajoana with a video online, which went viral, he was also the man who supported "sadda haq" movie with his song 'baghi', and now he has done the track for the new dharmic film "yoddha". Atleast give credit where it due!

How is what he's doing, any different to sikhs who do anti-sikh things like drink/smoke/cut hair/do nindya/electoral frauds (committees) etc and then do mattha tek in the gurdwara, and possible even do kirtan on stage?

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He isnt the only sikh/panjabi singer to have sung songs for his career, and then sung dharmic songs on the side, which is seen as seva for the panth. He's my fave panjabi singer since the 90s, and fair enough he has done few songs, which i wasn't sure what he was thinking of at the time, but not many panjabi singers from the west have kept it so raw n desi like jazzy. Bhangra bands from the 80s pioneered bhangra/panjabi music, and also released dharmic songs on the side, jazzy isn't doing anyfink different. He was the 1st singer unquestionably who supported balwant singh rajoana with a video online, which went viral, he was also the man who supported "sadda haq" movie with his song 'baghi', and now he has done the track for the new dharmic film "yoddha". Atleast give credit where it due!

How is what he's doing, any different to sikhs who do anti-sikh things like drink/smoke/cut hair/do nindya/electoral frauds (committees) etc and then do mattha tek in the gurdwara, and possible even do kirtan on stage?

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So do you hold the sort of people as you have described in the above paragraph in such high esteem as you do jazzy b? As your right, their the same.

So if a guy or girl wearing a dastar was smoking, would you deem that ok or condemn it as it's a bad image for the panth? Or as their still in the roop of a gursikh it counts for something, right?

In not concerned about Bhangra now or whenever. I'm concerned about Gurmat, sikhi ithias and gurbani.

If jazzy b cared about the panth, he wouldn't do what he does and would simply walk the path of a gurmukh. Not put a pag on when he feels like making some money of the names of our shaheed. It's just about the money, not seva.

Simple.

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So do you hold the sort of people as you have described in the above paragraph in such high esteem as you do jazzy b? As your right, their the same.

So if a guy or girl wearing a dastar was smoking, would you deem that ok or condemn it as it's a bad image for the panth? Or as their still in the roop of a gursikh it counts for something, right?

In not concerned about Bhangra now or whenever. I'm concerned about Gurmat, sikhi ithias and gurbani.

If jazzy b cared about the panth, he wouldn't do what he does and would simply walk the path of a gurmukh. Not put a pag on when he feels like making some money of the names of our shaheed. It's just about the money, not seva.

Simple.

How do you know they make money from dharmic albums/songs? Ive heard previously from jazzy b and sukshinder shinda, who r a duo from day 1, that they do not take money from dharmic albums, also a dharmic record label, called dharmic records, does not make money from releasing religious songs.

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Once again, whilst watching the sikh channel, I see jazzy b, singing about "sant siphai" promoting this new film!

Why Jazzy B? He does enough single handedly to promote everything other than Gurmat, he then dons bana, parades around with a gun and sword telling "US" about sikhi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Then on the next channel it's >>>>>>>>

Surely this is no good for our youth, whilst were arguing about interfaith marriages within sikhi and it's detrimental affect, this guys giving enough other mixed messages of his own to a huge recipient audience much bigger than what our gurdware are reaching!!!!

I don't mind him doing what he does within the music industry along as he keeps sikhi out of it.

I was surprised to find out his dad was a GurSikh before he passed away. I would be upset with him in no doubt he used dharmik songs just to please one side of his fans and go back to songs talking about women/sharabis. MODERN DAY PUNJABI MUSIC FOR YOU.

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How do you know they make money from dharmic albums/songs? Ive heard previously from jazzy b and sukshinder shinda, who r a duo from day 1, that they do not take money from dharmic albums, also a dharmic record label, called dharmic records, does not make money from releasing religious songs.

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Exposure on channels and audiences to which they don't reach in the tacky music channels.......results in sales, venerating these people as role models, wrongly!

Also, you nether answers my questions?

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How do you know they make money from dharmic albums/songs? Ive heard previously from jazzy b and sukshinder shinda, who r a duo from day 1, that they do not take money from dharmic albums, also a dharmic record label, called dharmic records, does not make money from releasing religious songs.

Course they take money so do their record labels/producers people do not do this for nothing... besides I have never seen any news article showing them directly donating all their proceeds of such albums/cds to any cause .

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Course they take money so do their record labels/producers people do not do this for nothing... besides I have never seen any news article showing them directly donating all their proceeds of such albums/cds to any cause .

This is from the dharmic record label i mentioned previously, they r called "dharamseva records", here is wat they write on their site.

"DharamSeva Records

Preserve the Past Inspire the Future

2013 proved to be a revolutionary year for conscious music! A long overdue dharamic (righteous living) music label finally launched in the form of Dharam Seva Records. Dharam Seva is spear-headed by Sundip Singh (Kaka Mohanwalia) and Gurmit Singh (Billa Mato), who previously plied their trade in Bhangra music industry, but destiny had other plans.

Recent years saw the pull of spirituality and dharam take a strong hold in their lives, and in 2012, both were blessed with the supreme gift of Khande de Phahul. The Singhs understood that by accepting this life-giving spiritual nectar, they were adhering to an active call of duty. As a result they decided to utilise their combined knowledge and experience for the propagation of a higher cause.

The project, has also touched the heart of global Bhangra stars and in its first year established as a UK Registered Charity making no profits and all work being done is Volantary.

Sundip Singh (Kaka Mohanwalia) last year released Singh Mareya Ni Mukhney on the album Jakara after becoming disheartened by the low number of quality dharamic music projects in existence. He became concerned that extraordinary dharamic music releases did not receive the promotion, recognition and level of attention, from the Punjabi music loving audiences that they deserved. With this in mind the concept of DharamSeva Records was born. The sevadaars used their connections and skills to set up a fully integrated framework, which now consists of Singers, Song Writers, Music Producers, Video Producers, Social Media, a PR Team and most importantly, a Not for Profit Record Label, which ensures that all profits will be reinvested into creating bigger and better dharamic projects.

So far many distinguished artists have committed to the cause including Diljit Dosanjh, Jazzy B, Harbhajan Mann, Sukshinder Shinda, Charanjit Ahuja, Durga Rangila, Satwinder Bugga, Jaz Dhami, KS Makhan, Tru-Skool, Kulwinder Johal, Kaos Productions, Gupsy Aujla, Raju Dinehwala, Benny Dhaliwal, Geeta Zaildar, Mangi Mahal, Bups Sagoo, DJ Dips, Jassy Jallanderi, Raman Aujla, Bikram Singh, Amit Rai, Inside Man, Meshi Eshara, Manak-E, Madan Maddi, Manjit Pappu, Sangra Vibes and legendary percussionist Juggy Rehal. As well as these household names, the label will be bringing back Mandeep Singh (The Specialist) and Baljinder Singh (Bally Rai) who have also received the blessings of Khande de Phahul since leaving the bhangra music industry.

The signing of mantra singer Shabad Deep Kaur from Belgium, Angrez Ali, Jagowala Jatha (Sikh Kavishri Singers) and Rashee Ragga, are all examples of the diversity the label. The underlying objectives are to help unite people of all faiths, race and nationalities; and by sharing odes to the Timeless one, courageous examples of history and selfless service to humanity, send out a much needed, inspirational message to listeners.

DharamSevas music projects only form half of the story. The label will also be making passionate efforts to help preserve the divine art of Gurmat Sangeet and the divine language of the Guru Granth Sahib, GurMukhi Boli, which were both once an integral part of the Sikh way of life. The devotional singing of GurBani in the prescribed raag, is an unbroken tradition started by Guru Nanak Dev Ji, founder of the Sikh faith. Bhai Mardana, Guru Nanak Dev Jis beloved Muslim disciple, musician par excellence and an accomplished player of the Rabaab, was instrumental in delivering Guru Nanak Dev Jis message using the universal language of music as the medium. DharamSeva Records is on a mission to preserve some of the oldest compositions using the instruments which were created by the Gurus themselves such as the Taus, Dilruba, Saranda and Rabaab.

Stay tuned for future releases."

http://www.dharamsevarecords.com/?page_id=23

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I can see why sikhiseeker is against such particular singers but i am not going to reply about that issue as this will start another unholy cyber war of the most hated topic lol.

Anyway, Dharam Seva Records of UK are the best thing to ever happen in our vulgar and disgusting Punjabi music industry. Rather than blatantly finding mistakes in them and others, you should have something positive plan chalked out. It is bit sad to see hatred against those who of course are not perfect but at least they are doing even 0.01% effort for positiveness in our society.

Please do not go on living on by pulling legs of other person who is bit odd than your lifestyle. Pind di burriyan vang lari janday.

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This is from the dharmic record label i mentioned previously, they r called "dharamseva records", here is wat they write on their site.

"DharamSeva Records

Preserve the Past Inspire the Future

2013 proved to be a revolutionary year for conscious music! A long overdue dharamic (righteous living) music label finally launched in the form of Dharam Seva Records. Dharam Seva is spear-headed by Sundip Singh (Kaka Mohanwalia) and Gurmit Singh (Billa Mato), who previously plied their trade in Bhangra music industry, but destiny had other plans.

Recent years saw the pull of spirituality and dharam take a strong hold in their lives, and in 2012, both were blessed with the supreme gift of Khande de Phahul. The Singhs understood that by accepting this life-giving spiritual nectar, they were adhering to an active call of duty. As a result they decided to utilise their combined knowledge and experience for the propagation of a higher cause.

The project, has also touched the heart of global Bhangra stars and in its first year established as a UK Registered Charity making no profits and all work being done is Volantary.

Sundip Singh (Kaka Mohanwalia) last year released Singh Mareya Ni Mukhney on the album Jakara after becoming disheartened by the low number of quality dharamic music projects in existence. He became concerned that extraordinary dharamic music releases did not receive the promotion, recognition and level of attention, from the Punjabi music loving audiences that they deserved. With this in mind the concept of DharamSeva Records was born. The sevadaars used their connections and skills to set up a fully integrated framework, which now consists of Singers, Song Writers, Music Producers, Video Producers, Social Media, a PR Team and most importantly, a Not for Profit Record Label, which ensures that all profits will be reinvested into creating bigger and better dharamic projects.

So far many distinguished artists have committed to the cause including Diljit Dosanjh, Jazzy B, Harbhajan Mann, Sukshinder Shinda, Charanjit Ahuja, Durga Rangila, Satwinder Bugga, Jaz Dhami, KS Makhan, Tru-Skool, Kulwinder Johal, Kaos Productions, Gupsy Aujla, Raju Dinehwala, Benny Dhaliwal, Geeta Zaildar, Mangi Mahal, Bups Sagoo, DJ Dips, Jassy Jallanderi, Raman Aujla, Bikram Singh, Amit Rai, Inside Man, Meshi Eshara, Manak-E, Madan Maddi, Manjit Pappu, Sangra Vibes and legendary percussionist Juggy Rehal. As well as these household names, the label will be bringing back Mandeep Singh (The Specialist) and Baljinder Singh (Bally Rai) who have also received the blessings of Khande de Phahul since leaving the bhangra music industry.

The signing of mantra singer Shabad Deep Kaur from Belgium, Angrez Ali, Jagowala Jatha (Sikh Kavishri Singers) and Rashee Ragga, are all examples of the diversity the label. The underlying objectives are to help unite people of all faiths, race and nationalities; and by sharing odes to the Timeless one, courageous examples of history and selfless service to humanity, send out a much needed, inspirational message to listeners.

DharamSevas music projects only form half of the story. The label will also be making passionate efforts to help preserve the divine art of Gurmat Sangeet and the divine language of the Guru Granth Sahib, GurMukhi Boli, which were both once an integral part of the Sikh way of life. The devotional singing of GurBani in the prescribed raag, is an unbroken tradition started by Guru Nanak Dev Ji, founder of the Sikh faith. Bhai Mardana, Guru Nanak Dev Jis beloved Muslim disciple, musician par excellence and an accomplished player of the Rabaab, was instrumental in delivering Guru Nanak Dev Jis message using the universal language of music as the medium. DharamSeva Records is on a mission to preserve some of the oldest compositions using the instruments which were created by the Gurus themselves such as the Taus, Dilruba, Saranda and Rabaab.

Stay tuned for future releases."

http://www.dharamsevarecords.com/?page_id=23

sorry but it still doesn't say what 'dharmic' projects means , either past present or future. I really don't think that jazzy b et al would be doing Raag kirtan and it seems so far they haven't produced any of the Raag kirtan preservation albums and there are still many panthic jewels out there doing the sewa .

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