Sikh Empire

[YOYO29]

Hey guyz, is it true that Sikhs conquered Gilgit,Ladakh,Baltistan and some parts of China ? And I'm not sure the man who conquered Ladakh was a Sikh or Hindu (General Zorawar Singh) many ppl say he was a Hindu Dogra.

[jasvendrasingh]

Zoravar Singh was a dogra general, workung for Raja of Jammu, who in turn was a principality under Lahore Darbar( M Ranjit singh). They couldnot start any expedition without permission and support of Lahore Darbar .Thus it was an expedition & territorial expansion of Sarkar Khalsa directly or indirectly

[JagsawSingh]

I think the important bit to note is that the whole of what know today as the 'malwa' part of Punjab....i.e Ludhiana, Moga, Patiala etc, was not part of the Sikh Kingdom. That fact is more interesting than gilgit and ladakh. (sounds like a firm of Bombay lawyers)

[JSinghnz]

Zoravar Singh was a dogra general, workung for Raja of Jammu, who in turn was a principality under Lahore Darbar( M Ranjit singh). They couldnot start any expedition without permission and support of Lahore Darbar .Thus it was an expedition & territorial expansion of Sarkar Khalsa directly or indirectly

It was a direct expansion of Sarkar Khalsa.

And General Zoravar Singh was a Sikh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa1148bydh0

[JSinghnz]

I think the important bit to note is that the whole of what know today as the 'malwa' part of Punjab....i.e Ludhiana, Moga, Patiala etc, was not part of the Sikh Kingdom. That fact is more interesting than gilgit and ladakh. (sounds like a firm of Bombay lawyers)

What has that to do with the OP's question?

Are you always confused and cannot focus to the matter being discussed?

[jasvendrasingh]

I would disagree to both jsinghz n jagsawsingh too. History tells us that zorawar singh was hindu, army commander of raja gulab singh of jammu ( gulabsingh was brother of dhiansingh the dogra pm of lahore durbar).And the territories won by him were added to jammu principality and whatever happened after demuse of maharaja ranjit singh is known for all. Even (it is saidthat)Dhian n Gulab singh became sikhs but only to dodge the maharaja .

[jasvendrasingh]

Jagsawsingh ,why donot yoy think that Patialas were not sikh? All thr rajas of malwa were sikhs , only that they were not agreeble to dictatorial unification of territories under misles and giving away the federal structure developed under misles

[JagsawSingh]

Jagsawsingh ,why donot yoy think that Patialas were not sikh? All thr rajas of malwa were sikhs , only that they were not agreeble to dictatorial unification of territories under misles and giving away the federal structure developed under misles

This thread has nothing to do with 'who is Sikh' and who is not. Its about the Sikh EMPIRE. Thats why I pointed out that Malwa was NOT part of the Sikh empire. Ludhiana, Patiala etc were sezerainties, allowed to exist, as long as they remained quiet and compliant, by powerfull 'powers' that existed to the north, south and south west of them, but part of none. So remind me again, how is this fact not relevant to a discussion about the Sikh EMPIRE ?

[JSinghnz]

This thread has nothing to do with 'who is Sikh' and who is not. Its about the Sikh EMPIRE. Thats why I pointed out that Malwa was NOT part of the Sikh empire. Ludhiana, Patiala etc were sezerainties, allowed to exist, as long as they remained quiet and compliant, by powerfull 'powers' that existed to the north, south and south west of them, but part of none. So remind me again, how is this fact not relevant to a discussion about the Sikh EMPIRE ?

Read the OP's question again and ask yourself where did he ask about the SIKH EMPIRE? Or are you finding it difficult to understand simple English.

[JagsawSingh]

Read the OP's question again and ask yourself where did he ask about the SIKH EMPIRE? Or are you finding it difficult to understand simple English.

OK. So lets all take your advice and become 2 dimensional robots without personality :

The OP asks is such and such 'true' and the answer to that one question he puts is 'YES'.

End of discussion. The question has been anwsered. Close the thread down. In fact, lets go through every single thread that has ever appeared on this 'discussion' forum and delete every single post that came after the very first reply. Of course, we will also have to contact the Oxford and Websters dictionary specialists and ask them to officialy redefine the meaning of the word 'discussion' so it can fit into the wonderful JSinghnz' first class take on the matter.