Sikhs Of West And Punjabi Language - Why Nobody Talk About It?

[simran345]

Yes seen him before this guy is soo fluent. Reminds of a European lady Anita Lerche, she sings in punjabi and shabads too. I like her voice.

[StarStriker]

This guy puts atleast a couple of hundred thousand people to shame...

Thats gud old stephen, good friend of jus reign.

Check this video out, where he gives a star performance, its really funny....... "H@r@mz@diaa Ah Samne, Aaaaaah!"

[Mehtab Singh]

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA yea I saw this a few days ago for the 2nd or 3rd time.

[Premi5]

I think the Jews put heavy emphasis on learning Hebrew formally, in classes outside school or their kids attend school where they learn Hebrew. I'm sure it's not all Jews, but many of them born outside Israel seem to have good knowledge. They also have 'friendly' environments in the UK and US. 

If the parents who are second, third, fourth generation immigrants do not speak much Panjabi at home, then the answer is to either ensure regular Panjabi classes outside school, or for school to teach Panjabi as second language with heavy emphasis, from at least age 7-8. They could do drama classes in schools. They could do role plays of historical Sikhs maybe (not Gurus).

Visiting Panjab at least once a year for minimum one month engaging in activities speaking only Panjabi would also help.

There are several Panjabi 'singers' born and bred in the UK who speak very good Panjabi, unfortunately their musical talents are utilised in a non-dharmic way

Going one step further, Sikhs would benefit from knowledge of Hindi or Sanskrit and Farsi. 

@shastarSingh

you are born and bred in Panjab. My observation is that Indian Panjabis speak Panjabi with quite limited vocab compared with Pakistanis. Also, too much trying to include English words in every sentence. 'Theth' Panjabi is not considered as 'good'.  

[shastarSingh]

1 hour ago, Premi5 said:

I think the Jews put heavy emphasis on learning Hebrew formally, in classes outside school or their kids attend school where they learn Hebrew. I'm sure it's not all Jews, but many of them born outside Israel seem to have good knowledge. They also have 'friendly' environments in the UK and US. 

If the parents who are second, third, fourth generation immigrants do not speak much Panjabi at home, then the answer is to either ensure regular Panjabi classes outside school, or for school to teach Panjabi as second language with heavy emphasis, from at least age 7-8. They could do drama classes in schools. They could do role plays of historical Sikhs maybe (not Gurus).

Visiting Panjab at least once a year for minimum one month engaging in activities speaking only Panjabi would also help.

There are several Panjabi 'singers' born and bred in the UK who speak very good Panjabi, unfortunately their musical talents are utilised in a non-dharmic way

Going one step further, Sikhs would benefit from knowledge of Hindi or Sanskrit and Farsi. 

@shastarSingh

you are born and bred in Panjab. My observation is that Indian Panjabis speak Panjabi with quite limited vocab compared with Pakistanis. Also, too much trying to include English words in every sentence. 'Theth' Panjabi is not considered as 'good'.  

Our sikh boys don't read much Punjabi literature. Even I didn't read much Punjabi literature. Only after coming into sikhi, I read Punjabi sikhi literature.

Everyone in Punjab want their kids to study in big schools and learn English.

[Kau89r8]

 

[Ranjeet01]

For many decades , I have heard this type of talk about Punjabi not being spoken.

For every new generation you keep hearing the same thing.

This type of talk bores me and it is quite counterproductive. The more you slag off kids for not speaking the more you pit them off.

They have to enjoy speaking it.

If you are one of those theth smug types that has a feeling of superiority over the ones that can't speak then it is not doing any good.

This is not Punjab where you shame someone to do something, that kind of psychology won't work in the west.

 

[Redoptics]

Interesting that Punjabi is a phonetic language and is easier to learn than English.

I dont about you guys but my parents always spoke in Punjabi, problem was we replied in English. I can understand everything being said and can respond but because I didn't always respond in Punjabi when I want to speak its not fluent,  which is irritating.

Now I am getting better because I am speaking it more often, also learning Gurmukhi,  there are a lot of good apps on the play store.

All you need is the willingness to learn and thirty quid for an amazon fire and you good to go.

Ps also its not good when you try and speak to an elder and mix up things like thu and thusi and get laughed at. Its a complete forget about this , ill stick to English.  Personal experience lol  

 

[Ranjeet01]

19 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

Interesting that Punjabi is a phonetic language and is easier to learn than English.

I dont about you guys but my parents always spoke in Punjabi, problem was we replied in English. I can understand everything being said and can respond but because I didn't always respond in Punjabi when I want to speak its not fluent,  which is irritating.

Now I am getting better because I am speaking it more often, also learning Gurmukhi,  there are a lot of good apps on the play store.

All you need is the willingness to learn and thirty quid for an amazon fire and you good to go.

 

Most kids understand but reply back in English like you mention.

The environment is not necessarily conducive to speak.

[proactive]

On 1/2/2022 at 9:36 AM, Redoptics said:

Interesting that Punjabi is a phonetic language and is easier to learn than English.

I dont about you guys but my parents always spoke in Punjabi, problem was we replied in English. I can understand everything being said and can respond but because I didn't always respond in Punjabi when I want to speak its not fluent,  which is irritating.

Now I am getting better because I am speaking it more often, also learning Gurmukhi,  there are a lot of good apps on the play store.

All you need is the willingness to learn and thirty quid for an amazon fire and you good to go.

Ps also its not good when you try and speak to an elder and mix up things like thu and thusi and get laughed at. Its a complete forget about this , ill stick to English.  Personal experience lol  

 

I always pull my nephews and nieces up because they always say "AAPAN" when they should be saying "ASEEN" for WE in English. You use AAPAN ( ਆਪਾਂ ) when you are talking about doing something which INCLUDES the person you are taking to and you say ASEEN ( ਅਸੀਂ  ) when you are going to do something that EXCLUDES that person.

ਅਸੀਂ ਘਰ ਚਲੇ ਹਾਂ - we are going home without you

ਆਪਾਂ ਘਰ ਚਲਦੇ ਹਾਂ  - let's go home 

I think something that anyone who has young kids should also be doing is inculcating the respectful Punjabi manners such as making sure that they always answer hanji - ਹਾਂਜੀ when they answer.