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rwmu rwmu krqw sBu jgu iPrY rwmu n pwieAw jwie ]
Agmu Agocru Aiq vfw Aqulu n quilAw jwie ]
kImiq iknY n pweIAw ikqY n lieAw jwie ]
gur kY sbid ByidAw ien ibiD visAw min Awie ]
nwnk Awip Amyau hY gur ikrpw qy rihAw smwie ]
Awpy imilAw imil rihAw Awpy imilAw Awie ]1]

Salok, Third Mehla:

The entire world roams around, chanting, ""Raam, Raam, Lord, Lord"", but the Lord cannot be obtained like this.
He is inaccessible, unfathomable and so very great; He is unweighable, and cannot be weighed.
No one can evaluate Him; He cannot be purchased at any price.
Through the Word of the Guru's Shabad, His mystery is known; in this way, He comes to dwell in the mind.
O Nanak, He Himself is infinite; by Guru's Grace, He is known to be permeating and pervading everywhere.
He Himself comes to blend, and having blended, remains blended. ||1||

what is the meaning of the first two lines that by chanting lords name u cannot obtain god

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but the next shabad its says

ਏ ਮਨ ਇਹੁ ਧਨੁ ਨਾਮੁ ਹੈ ਜਿਤੁ ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਸੁਖੁ ਹੋਇ ॥

Eae Man Eihu Dhhan Naam Hai Jith Sadhaa Sadhaa Sukh Hoe ||

ए मन इहु धनु नामु है जितु सदा सदा सुखु होइ ॥

O my soul, this is the wealth of the Naam; through it, comes peace, forever and ever.

24563 ਬਿਹਾਗੜੇ ਕੀ ਵਾਰ: (ਮ: ੩) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੫੫ ਪੰ. ੧੪
Raag Bihaagrhaa Guru Amar Das

ਤੋਟਾ ਮੂਲਿ ਨ ਆਵਈ ਲਾਹਾ ਸਦ ਹੀ ਹੋਇ ॥

Thottaa Mool N Aavee Laahaa Sadh Hee Hoe ||

तोटा मूलि न आवई लाहा सद ही होइ ॥

It never brings any loss; through it, one earns profits forever.

24564 ਬਿਹਾਗੜੇ ਕੀ ਵਾਰ: (ਮ: ੩) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੫੫ ਪੰ. ੧੪
Raag Bihaagrhaa Guru Amar Das

ਖਾਧੈ ਖਰਚਿਐ ਤੋਟਿ ਨ ਆਵਈ ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਓਹੁ ਦੇਇ ॥

Khaadhhai Kharachiai Thott N Aavee Sadhaa Sadhaa Ouhu Dhaee ||

खाधै खरचिऐ तोटि न आवई सदा सदा ओहु देइ ॥

Eating and spending it, it never decreases; He continues to give, forever and ever.

24565 ਬਿਹਾਗੜੇ ਕੀ ਵਾਰ: (ਮ: ੩) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੫੫ ਪੰ. ੧੪
Raag Bihaagrhaa Guru Amar Das

ਸਹਸਾ ਮੂਲਿ ਨ ਹੋਵਈ ਹਾਣਤ ਕਦੇ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥

Sehasaa Mool N Hovee Haanath Kadhae N Hoe ||

सहसा मूलि न होवई हाणत कदे न होइ ॥

One who has no skepticism at all never suffers humiliation.

24566 ਬਿਹਾਗੜੇ ਕੀ ਵਾਰ: (ਮ: ੩) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੫੫ ਪੰ. ੧੫
Raag Bihaagrhaa Guru Amar Das

ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਾਈਐ ਜਾ ਕਉ ਨਦਰਿ ਕਰੇਇ ॥੨॥

Naanak Guramukh Paaeeai Jaa Ko Nadhar Karaee ||2||

नानक गुरमुखि पाईऐ जा कउ नदरि करेइ ॥२॥

O Nanak, the Gurmukh obtains the Name of the Lord, when the Lord bestows His Glance of Grace. ||2||

24567 ਬਿਹਾਗੜੇ ਕੀ ਵਾਰ: (ਮ: ੩) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੫੫ ਪੰ. ੧੫

so then what is the meaning of this pangati

rwmu rwmu krqw sBu jgu iPrY rwmu n pwieAw jwie ]
Agmu Agocru Aiq vfw Aqulu n quilAw jwie ]

Edited by stingers12

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Dear stingers 12,

the question you have asked is worthy a million dollars and more, hats off to it ...... it is a beautiful question, and important in the life of each living being.

Let us see what is the meaning in this Shabad that Guru Jee wants to convey us:

When He says: Ram Ram karta sabh jag phirey, Ram na paaya jaey. This means, the whole world is reciting some type of name of god.

Some say Ram, some Krishna, others god, some Mahadev, some Durga, others Waheguru, others Satnam, some Allah...and like this the list is endless, as there are so many devotees, in so many cultures, different langauges, different religions, and so on ....

So Guru Jee is saying, that mere chanting of any name, or the reciting of religious texts, like parrots, is not enough at all to realease ourselves from the bonds of vikaras, karmas, mind and maya.

We must bear in mind, that there are several levels of consciousness from Sach Khand below. Being the level of Satnam the highest and the purest. And it is there where we should put our objective.

As the saying goes: "jaisa dhiaeeyeh, vaisa hoeeyeh" Means as you meditate upon, there you go and become like that.

Meditate upon something below Satnam, one will go to Baikunth, heaven, swarg lok, Shivpuri....

In this way, our Guru sahibans and the true Bhagats, have stressed to meditate on Naam alone, by doing His Simran. And this Simran, has to be implanted in such a way in our minds, that the Consciouss power hidden in it gets manifested , by disclosing itself within us.

That is why Sree Guru Amar Das Maharaj tells us in Anand Sahib: Naam jinke man vaseeya, vajeh Shabad ganere. This means, we have to repeat His Naam by meditating upon it in such a way, that, that Naam, manifests istelf by revealing us its True Jot and we star hearing the divine melodies of that Shabad within us.

This Shabad or Nam is present in each and everyone in equal measure, irrespective of any creed, caste or colour,but it is only develpoed in us, by doing its Simran.

We all know there is fire in the stones or wood, but not because of that we can get our food cooked, by placing it on them. the food can only be cooked by first rubbing one stone or a piece of wood, with the other one,(this is called the jugtee of Naam Simran), thus some sparks are generated, which leads to a bigger fire,which cooks our food, or bakes our rotis (bread).

In summary, we must drench ourselves, our minds, with His Name, by doing as much Simran as possible at all times, thus we gather thr real wealth and fulfill our human birth.

And at the same, by performing faithfully this type of highest bhakti, we are entitled to enter His abode.

No yam doots, nor Kal himself, can ever stop any wadbhagee soul, who by His Grace has done His Simran with love and devotion throughout his/her life, by returning back to Sach Khand, as He Himself, accompanies at all times, the soul, the sikh, the chela, in the form of Shabad Guru.

Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru.

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Dear stingers 12,

the question you have asked is worthy a million dollars and more, hats off to it ...... it is a beautiful question, and important in the life of each living being.

Let us see what is the meaning in this Shabad that Guru Jee wants to convey us:

When He says: Ram Ram karta sabh jag phirey, Ram na paaya jaey. This means, the whole world is reciting some type of name of god.

Some say Ram, some Krishna, others god, some Mahadev, some Durga, others Waheguru, others Satnam, some Allah...and like this the list is endless, as there are so many devotees, in so many cultures, different langauges, different religions, and so on ....

So Guru Jee is saying, that mere chanting of any name, or the reciting of religious texts, like parrots, is not enough at all to realease ourselves from the bonds of vikaras, karmas, mind and maya.

We must bear in mind, that there are several levels of consciousness from Sach Khand below. Being the level of Satnam the highest and the purest. And it is there where we should put our objective.

As the saying goes: "jaisa dhiaeeyeh, vaisa hoeeyeh" Means as you meditate upon, there you go and become like that.

Meditate upon something below Satnam, one will go to Baikunth, heaven, swarg lok, Shivpuri....

In this way, our Guru sahibans and the true Bhagats, have stressed to meditate on Naam alone, by doing His Simran. And this Simran, has to be implanted in such a way in our minds, that the Consciouss power hidden in it gets manifested , by disclosing itself within us.

That is why Sree Guru Amar Das Maharaj tells us in Anand Sahib: Naam jinke man vaseeya, vajeh Shabad ganere. This means, we have to repeat His Naam by meditating upon it in such a way, that, that Naam, manifests istelf by revealing us its True Jot and we star hearing the divine melodies of that Shabad within us.

This Shabad or Nam is present in each and everyone in equal measure, irrespective of any creed, caste or colour,but it is only develpoed in us, by doing its Simran.

We all know there is fire in the stones or wood, but not because of that we can get our food cooked, by placing it on them. the food can only be cooked by first rubbing one stone or a piece of wood, with the other one,(this is called the jugtee of Naam Simran), thus some sparks are generated, which leads to a bigger fire,which cooks our food, or bakes our rotis (bread).

In summary, we must drench ourselves, our minds, with His Name, by doing as much Simran as possible at all times, thus we gather thr real wealth and fulfill our human birth.

And at the same, by performing faithfully this type of highest bhakti, we are entitled to enter His abode.

No yam doots, nor Kal himself, can ever stop any wadbhagee soul, who by His Grace has done His Simran with love and devotion throughout his/her life, by returning back to Sach Khand, as He Himself, accompanies at all times, the soul, the sikh, the chela, in the form of Shabad Guru.

Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru.

Thanks so much for the reply and explaining what it meant thanks Edited by stingers12

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