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This is major issue that needs to be resolved, my local Gurdwara was unsure of when the Gurprubs and other dates are to occur.

Revive Nanakshahi calendar: Sikh bodies

Perneet Singh

Tribune News Service

Amritsar, November 19

The Sikh clergys decision to change the date for celebrating Guru Gobind Singhs birth anniversary from December 28 to January 7 has revived the Nanakshahi calendar row. Some organisations have questioned the move while others have renewed the demand for reverting to the original Nanakshahi calendar.

Bibi Kiranjot Kaur, SGPC member, said it was time that the controversy was resolved once and for all. The community must decide whether it wants to follow the Bikrami calendar or the original Nanakshahi calendar. You cannot hold deliberations every year to decide Gurpurb dates, she said.

Bibi Kiranjot said the two-member panel comprising SGPC president Avtar Singh Makkar and Damdami Taksal chief Baba Harnam Singh Khalsa had ignored technical aspects while amending the original Nanakshahi calendar.

Former Akal Takht Jathedar Giani Joginder Singh Vedanti said the matter should be reconsidered. He said if there were any shortcomings in the original Nanakshahi calendar, these should be removed with the help of Sikh intellectuals.

Harvinder Singh Sarna, SAD (Delhi) general secretary, said the Nanakshahi calendar came into being after intense deliberations and there was no clash of Gurpurb dates. He accused the Sikh clergy of double speak. When my brother Paramjit Singh Sarna used to celebrate Gurpurbs as per the original calendar, he was dubbed anti-Panthic. Where does the clergy stand now, he asked.

American Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (AGPC) coordinator Pritpal Singh said the implementation of the original calendar could end the confusion. He said Akal Takht must convene a meeting of Sikh organisations to resolve the issue.

DSGMC to celebrate Gurpurb on Dec 28

Delhi Sikh Gurdwara Management Committee (DSGMC) president Manjeet Singh GK said though there were many discrepancies, Akal Takht was supreme and its decision should be accepted by all. He, however, said the DSGMC would celebrate Gurpurb on December 28 as it had already reserved the Lakhi Shah Vanjara Hall for the event.

Manjeet Singh GK

Manjeet Singh GK

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The community must decide whether it wants to follow the Bikrami calendar or the original Nanakshahi calendar.

Bibi Kiranjot Kaur,

sgpc member

if there are any shortcomings in the original Nanakshahi calendar, these should be removed in consultation with Sikh intellectuals.

Giani Joginder Singh Vedanti,

former jathedar of akal takht

The original Nanakshahi calendar came into being after intense deliberations and there was no clash of Gurpurb dates.

Harvinder Singh Sarna,

sad (delhi) general secretary

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Dal Khalsa criticises Akal Takht Jathedar

Says Gurpurb row has divided Panth

Our Correspondent

Hoshiarpur, November 19

The Dal Khalsa today criticised the Akal Takht chief for creating confusion over the birth anniversary of the Tenth Guru. As per the amended Nanakshahi calendar, the anniversary falls on Jauary 7, 2015. Party spokespersons Kanwar Pal Singh, Dr Manjinder Singh and Ranbir Singh said instead of bringing about oneness, Jathedar Gurbachan Singh had created divisions in the Panth.

According to the Nanakshahi calendar introduced on March 14, 2003, Guru Gobind Singh's Gurpurb falls on January 5. They appealed to the Jathedar to revert to the original calendar to end divisions within the Panth and not become a part of SAD's "divisive" politics.

On BJP leaders criticising Chief Minister Parkash Singh Badal, they said: The Badals dont deserve any sympathy. They ditched the Sikhs to capture power, that too at the cost of Sikh interests and aspirations.

Urging the Sikhs not to associate themselves with the RSS and its offshoots, the Dal Khalsa leaders said on assuming power at the Centre, "they have changed their strategy, surcharged the atmosphere with their fanatic ideology and adopted power politics to fulfil their agenda of making India a Hindu nation. They said the RSS-BJP were hell-bent on making inroads into Sikh-dominated areas.

Akal Takht, SGPC pass the buck on calendar row

Pak gurdwara panel willing to take initiative for resolving the controversy

Perneet Singh

Tribune News Service

Amritsar, November 20

Though the SGPC and Akal Takht today said in unison that the confusion caused by Nanakshahi calendar row should end, they appeared to be passing the buck on initiating corrective measures. However, both of them didn't rule out the possibility of further amendments to the Nanakshahi calendar.

Akal Takht Jathedar Giani Gurbachan Singh said, "We would certainly like this confusion to end so that we don't have to change Gurpurb dates in future. We have also kept a provision for making further amendments."

He, however, said they had received no suggestions till now. He also made it clear that the two-member panel comprising SGPC president Avtar Singh Makkar and Damdami Taksal chief Baba Harnam Singh Khalsa, which was constituted for making amendments to the calendar a few years ago, would have to take the initiative, if any changes were to be made.

Makkar threw the ball in Akal Takht's court saying "whatever Akal Takht decides on the issue will be acceptable to us. We have always acknowledged the supremacy of Akal Takht."

On the other hand, the newly constituted team of the Pakistan Sikh Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (PSGPC) is contemplating to hold a "World Sikh Convention" at Nankana Sahib to deliberate on the issue.

Talking to The Tribune on the phone from Pakistan, PSGPC member Gopal Singh said they were to hold the convention alongside Guru Nanak Jayanti celebrations early this month, but could not do so because some key Sikh leaders from Indian and Germany could not reach Pakistan due to visa issues. He said they would soon announce a fresh date for the convention.

The Sikh leaders in Pakistan plan to extend an invitation to the Jathedars of all five Takhts, besides key Sikh organisations like the SGPC and the DSGMC for the convention. Former PSGPC president Bishen Singh said, "We may be having our differences with the SGPC over the calendar issue, but we would welcome them to air their views. We will also be sending invites to Sikh leaders in countries like the USA, the UK, Canada and even Afghanistan. We wish to bridge the divide in the community and work for the unity of Sikhs across the globe."

The PSGPC follows the original Nanakshahi calendar, while the SGPC follows its amended version.

In the past, the SGPC and the PSGPC had been at loggerheads over the Nanakshahi calendar row.

Giani Gurbachan Singh, Akal takht jathedar"We will like this confusion to end so that we don't have to change Gurpurb dates in future. We have also kept a provision for making further amendments."

Giani Gurbachan Singh, Akal takht jathedar

Avtar Singh Makkar, SGPC president"Whatever Akal Takht decides will be acceptable to us. We have always acknowledged the supremacy of Akal Takht."

Avtar Singh Makkar, SGPC president

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If 'leaders ' can not /will not put their heads above the parapet maybe the best thing is to put it to worldwide sangat after putting pros and cons of both bikrami and Nanakshahi calendars , the fact that the sangat is ultimately the ones who will uphold the gurpurabs and shaheedi diwases. The advantadge is, the Guru Panth will make the decision and all will have to stand be it as in old times. If they, the 'leaders' fail to do so, They will show themselves to be thinking themselves above Gurus in status and thus not worthy of listening to.

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there are no cons of bikrami , if guru ji wanted they could have made separate calander

I understood that due to it's movement there will be a period when Guru Gobind SIngh ji's gurpurab will not be celebrated as it will not exist

also the fact that the slow movement across time the main dates for us as a Panth will not longer fall in the correct seasons

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Why are we letting this happen? the Nanakshahi calendar while not perfect (nothing ever is ) was the closest we got to maintaining seperate , unchanging dates for our commerative dates EVERY YEAR without having to go to Hindu lunar calendars to confirm if and when we celebrate the life and times of our Gurus and shaheeds. Guru ji told us to be independent of outside influence so why are we going backwards and falling back into old crazy ways?

This year SGPC and Akal Takht have declared that Guru Teg Bahadur ji's shaheedi diwas can be celebrated on three different dates (personally I think every day to the year should commemerate our panth's glory) This year they have also screwed around with Guru Nanak Dev ji's Gurpurab as well meaning confusion for those Sikhs who were trying to go to Pakistan in getting permissions, and now we will celebrate our Father's prakash twice in one year and not Next????

The current level of confusion was not there in the year of the introduction of Nanakshahi calendar 2003 so how comes this year has been so disastrous could it have more to do with RSS and BJP meddling now they are in power and their paltu kootey are now trying to show loyalty by messing up sangat ?

If we go back to 2003 version and accept only the tradition of celebrating Guru Nanak's prakash diwas on the date of the full moon as per gurbani , surely that would be better than this almighty mess?

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taken from gurmatbibek

A letter to SGPC, from Belgium which talks about faults of Purewal calender:



ਸੇਵਾ ਵਿਖੇ

ਪ੍ਰਧਾਨ ਸਾਹਿਬ,
ਸ਼੍ਰੋਮਣੀ ਗੁਰਦਵਾਰਾ ਪ੍ਰਬੰਧਕ ਕਮੇਟੀ,

ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਸਰ ਸਾਹਿਬ।
ਵਿਸ਼ਾ:- ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਸਬੰਧੀ ਸਿੱਖ ਕੌਮ ਨੂੰ ਦਰਪੇਸ਼ ਮੁਸ਼ਕਲ।
ਸਿੰਘ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ,
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ,ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਕੀ ਫਤਹਿ !

ਜਦੋਂ ਤੋਂ ਨਾਨਕਸ਼ਾਹੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਪੁਰੇਵਾਲ ਲਾਗੂ ਹੋਇਆ ਹੈ ਉਦੋਂ ਤੋਂ ਹੀ ਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਅੰਦਰ ਭਾਰੀ ਵਾਦ-ਵਿਵਾਦਾਂ ਦਾ ਸਿਲ ਸਿਲਾ ਸ਼ੁਰੂ ਹੋ ਗਿਆ ਹੈ।ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਦਾ ਵਿਸ਼ਾ ਜਰਾ ਗੁੰਝਲਦਾਰ ਹੋਣ ਕਰਕੇ ਹਰ ਕੋਈ ਇਸ ਤੋਂ ਕੰਨ ਭੰਨਦਾ ਹੈ।ਨਾਨਕਸ਼ਾਹੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਅਸਲ ਵਿੱਚ ਇੱਕ ਗੁੰਝਲ ਭਰਪੂਰ ਬੁਝਾਰਤ ਹੈ ,ਜਿਸਦਾ ਮਕਸਦ ਸਿੱਖ ਇਤਿਹਾਸ ਨੂੰ ਮਿਥਹਾਸ ਵਿੱਚ ਬਦਲਣਾ ਹੈ।ਕਿਸੇ ਖਾਸ ਸਮੇਂ ਤੇ ਘਟੀ ਘਟਨਾ ਨੂੰ ਇਤਿਹਾਸ ਆਖਿਆ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ।ਜਦੋਂ ਘਟਨਾ ਕਾਲ ਨੂੰ ਮਿੱਥ ਦਿੱਤਾ ਜਾਵੇ ਤਾਂ ਉਹ ਮਿਥਹਾਸ ਬਣ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ।ਪੁਰਾਤਨ ਸਿੱਖ ਇਤਿਹਾਸ ਬਿਕਰਮੀ ਸੰਬਤ ਨਾਲ ਸਬੰਧਿਤ ਹੈ।ਬਿਕਰਮੀ ਸੰਬਤ ਆਪਣੇ ਆਪ ਵਿੱਚ ਇੱਕ ਪੂਰਨ ਵਿਦਿਆ ਹੈ ਅਤੇ ਇਹ ਚੰਦਰਮਾਂ ਅਤੇ ਸੂਰਜ ਦੀਆਂ ਗਤੀਵਿਧੀਆਂ ਨਾਲ ਮਿਲ ਕੇ ਚਲਦਾ ਹੈ।

ਪੁਰੇਵਾਲ ਦੇ ਨਾਨਕ ਸ਼ਾਹੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਦਾ ਅਧਾਰ ਇਸਾਈ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਹੈ। ਜਿਸ ਨੂੰ ਗਰੀਗੌਰੀਅਨ ਆਖਿਆ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ।ਗਰੀਗੌਰੀਅਨ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਟਰੌਪੀਕਲ ਹੈ।ਟਰੌਪੀਕਲ ਦਾ ਮਤਲਬ ਹੈ ਉਹ ਵਿਦਿਆ ਜੋ ਕਰਕ ਰੇਖਾ,ਮਕਰ ਰੇਖਾ ਅਤੇ ਭੂ-ਮੱਧ ਰੇਖਾ ਨਾਲ ਸਬੰਧਿਤ ਹੈ।ਟਰੌਪੀਕਲ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਇਹਨਾਂ ਰੇਖਾਵਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਅਧਾਰ ਮੰਨ ਕੇ ਚਲਦੇ ਹਨ। ਹੈਰਾਨੀ ਦੀ ਗੱਲ ਹੈ,ਜੋ ਦੋਸ਼ ਬਿਕਰਮੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਤੇ ਲਾਕੇ ਨਾਨਕਸ਼ਾਹੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਲਾਗੂ ਕਰਵਾਇਆ ਗਿਆ ਹੈ,ਉਹ ਦੋਸ਼ ਸਿਡਰੀਅਲ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਦੇ ਨਾਂ ਹੋਕੇ ਟਰੌਪੀਕਲ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਦੇ ਹਨ।ਇਸ ਲਈ ਬਿਕਰਮੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਸਿਡਰੀਅਲ ਹੋਣ ਕਰਕੇ ਇਹਨਾਂ ਦੋਸ਼ਾਂ ਤੋਂ ਮੁਕਤ ਹੈ ਪਰ ਨਾਨਕਸ਼ਾਹੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਟਰੌਪੀਕਲ ਹੋਣ ਕਰਕੇ ਇਹਨਾਂ ਦੋਸ਼ਾਂ ਦੇ ਘੇਰੇ ਹੇਠ ਆਉਂਦਾ ਹੈ। ਬਹੁਤ ਵੱਡਾ ਭੁਲੇਖਾ ਪਾਇਆ ਗਿਆ ਕਿ ਬਿਕਰਮੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਅਨੁਸਾਰ ਤਿਉਹਾਰਾਂ ਅਤੇ ਗੁਰਪੁਰਬਾਂ ਦੀਆਂ ਮਿਤੀਆਂ ਸਥਿਰ ਨਾਂ ਰਹਿ ਕੇ ਪਰਿਵਰਤਨਸ਼ੀਲ ਹਨ।ਇਹੋ ਹੀ ਕਾਰਣ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਵਿਸਾਖੀ 30 ਮਾਰਚ ਤੋਂ ਬਦਲ ਕੇ ਅੱਜਕਲ 13ਅਪਰੈਲ ਨੂੰ ਮਨਾਈ ਜਾਂਦੀ ਹੈ।ਹਜ਼ਾਰਾਂ ਸਾਲਾਂ ਬਾਦ ਇਹ ਵਿਸਾਖੀ ਅਪਰੈਲ ਦੀ ਥਾਂ ਦਸੰਬਰ ਵਿੱਚ ਸਰਦੀਆਂ ਦੀ ਰੁੱਤ ਵਿੱਚ ਮਨਾਈ ਜਾਏਗੀ। ਬਿਕਰਮੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਅਨੁਸਾਰ ਵਿਸਾਖੀ ਅੱਜ ਵੀ ਪਹਿਲੀ ਵਿਸਾਖ ਨੂੰ ਮਨਾਈ ਜਾਂਦੀ ਹੈ ਪਰ ਅੰਗਰੇਜੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਮੁਤਾਬਕ ਇਹ 13 ਅਪਰੈਲ ਨੂੰ ਆਉਂਦੀ ਹੈ।ਇਸਦਾ ਕਾਰਣ ਧਰਤੀ ਦੀ ਤੀਸਰੀ ਗਰਦਿਸ਼ Axial Precession ਹੈ ਜੋ ਬਹੁਤ ਹੀ ਧੀਮੀ ਗਤੀ ਵਾਲੀ ਹੈ,ਇਸ ਵਿੱਚ ਧਰਤੀ ਦਾ ਧੁਰਾ ਉਪਰਲੀਆਂ ਦੋ ਗਰਦਿਸ਼ਾਂ ਦੀ ਉਲਟ ਦਿਸ਼ਾ ਵਿੱਚ 26000 ਸਾਲ ਵਿੱਚ ਇੱਕ ਚੱਕਰ ਪੂਰਾ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ।ਇਸ ਗਰਦਿਸ਼ ਕਰਕੇ ਦਿਨ ਸਥਿਰ ਨਾ ਰਹਿ ਕੇ ਬਦਲਦੇ ਰਹਿੰਦੇ ਹਨ।ਭਾਵ ਜੋ 13 ਦਿਨ ਦਾ ਫਰਕ ਟਰੌਪੀਕਲ ਕੈਲੰਡਰਾਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਪਿਆ ਹੈ,ਇਹ ਇਸ ਗਰਦਿਸ਼ ਦੇ ਕਾਰਣ ਹੀ ਹੈ।ਇਸ ਨਾਲ ਅੰਗਰੇਜੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਦੇ ਮਹੀਨੇ ਮੌਸਮ ਦਾ ਸਾਥ ਨਹੀਂ ਦਿੰਦੇ।ਕਹਿਣ ਦਾ ਮਤਲਬ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਅਪਰੈਲ ਮਹੀਨੇ ਵਿੱਚ ਬਸੰਤ ਰੁੱਤ ਦੀ ਥਾਂ ਸਰਦੀ ਦਾ ਮੌਸਮ ਆ ਸਕਦਾ ਹੈ।

ਪ੍ਰਧਾਨ ਸਾਹਿਬ ,ਆਪ ਨੂੰ ਨਿਮਰਤਾ ਸਹਿਤ ਬੇਨਤੀ ਕੀਤੀ ਜਾਂਦੀ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਦੀ ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀ ਰੱਖਣ ਵਾਲੇ ਸੁਹਿਰਦ ਵਿਅਕਤੀਆਂ ਦੀ ਸਭਾ ਬੁਲਾ ਕੇ ਇਸ ਮਸਲੇ ਨੂੰ ਬਹੁਤ ਜਲਦੀ ਹੱਲ ਕਰਨਾ ਕਰੋ ਜੀ ਤਾਂ ਕਿ ਸਿੱਖ ਸੰਗਤਾਂ ਇਸ ਭੰਬਲਭੂਸੇ ਤੋਂ ਬਾਹਰ ਆ ਸਕਣ।ਮੈਂ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਮਾਹਰ ਤਾਂ ਨਹੀਂ ਹਾਂ,ਪਰ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਪਾ ਕੇ ਕੁਝ ਕੰਮ ਇਸ ਵਿਸ਼ੇ ਤੇ “ਸਿੱਖ ਇਤਿਹਾਸ ਨੂੰ ਮਿਥਿਹਾਸ ਵਿੱਚ ਬਦਲਣ ਦੀ ਸਾਜ਼ਿਸ਼ -ਨਾਨਕਸ਼ਾਹੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ” ਨਾਮ ਦੀ ਇੱਕ ਬੁੱਕਲੈੱਟ ਦੇ ਰੂਪ ਵਿੱਚ ਜਰੂਰ ਕੀਤਾ ਹੈ।ਨਾਨਕਸ਼ਾਹੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਦੇ ਕਰਤਾ ਪਾਲ ਸਿੰਘ ਪੁਰੇਵਾਲ ਅਤੇ ਉਸਦੇ ਹਮਾਇਤੀਆਂ ਪ੍ਰਤੀ ਮੇਰੇ ਕੁਝ ਸਵਾਲ ਹੇਠ ਲਿਖੇ ਅਨੁਸਾਰ ਹਨ:-


1 ਨਾਨਕਸ਼ਾਹੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਵਿੱਚ ਸੰਗਰਾਂਦਾਂ ਦਾ ਕੀ ਮਹੱਤਵ ਹੈ ਅਤੇ ਇਹਨਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਕਿਹੜੀ ਵਿਦਿਆ ਦੇ ਅਧਾਰ ਤੇ ਮਿਥਿਆ ਗਿਆ ਹੈ?

2 ਗੁਰਪੁਰਬ ਦੀਆਂ ਮਿਤੀਆਂ ਕਿਹੜੇ ਮਾਪਦੰਡ ਨਾਲ ਮਿੱਥੀਆਂ ਗਈਆਂ ਹਨ?

3 ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਤੇਗ ਬਹਾਦਰ ਜੀ ਦੇ ਸਹੀਦੀ ਗੁਰਪੁਰਬ ਨੂੰ 13 ਦਿਨ ਦੇ ਵਾਧੇ ਅਤੇ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਦੇ ਆਗਮਨ ਗੁਰਪੁਰਬ ਨੂੰ 14 ਦਿਨ ਦੇ ਵਾਧੇ ਨਾਲ ਕਿਉਂ ਫਿਕਸ ਕੀਤਾ ਗਿਆ ਜਦੋਂ ਕਿ
[en.wikipedia.org] ਦੇ ਮੁਤਾਬਕ ੧੦ ਦਿਨ ਦਾ ਵਾਧਾ ਕਰਨਾ ਚਾਹੀਦਾ ਸੀ।?

4 ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬਾਂ ਦੇ ਗੁਰ ਗੱਦੀ ਦਿਵਸ ਇਤਿਹਾਸ ਮੁਤਾਬਕ ਜੋਤੀ ਜੋਤ ਦਿਵਸ ਤੋਂ ਵੱਖਰੇ ਸਨ,ਇਹਨਾ ਨੂੰ ਇੱਕੋ ਦਿਨ ਕਿਉਂ ਮਿੱਥਿਆ ਗਿਆ?

5 ਅੱਜ ਵਿਸਾਖੀ ਦਾ ਤਿਉਹਾਰ 30 ਮਾਰਚ ਤੋ ਬਦਲ ਕੇ 13 ਅਪਰੈਲ ਨੂੰ ਕਿਉਂ ਮਨਾਇਆ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ? ਕੀ ਇਹ ਪਰੀਵਰਤਨ ਦੋ ਅੰਗਰੇਜੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰਾਂ ਦਾ ਆਪਸੀ ਅੰਤਰ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈ?,ਇਸ
ਪਰੀਵਰਤਨ ਨੂੰ ਬਿਕਰਮੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਨਾਲ ਜੋੜ ਕੇ ਸਿੱਖ ਸੰਗਤਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਭੁਲੇਖੇ ਵਿੱਚ ਕਿਉਂ ਪਾਇਆ ਗਿਆ?

6 ਜੇਕਰ ਬਿਕਰਮੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਦੋਸ਼ ਪੂਰਨ ਹੈ ਤਾਂ ਇਸਦੀ ਨਕਲ ਕਰਕੇ ਨਾਨਕਸ਼ਾਹੀ ਸਾਲ ਦੇ ਮਹੀਨਿਆਂ ਦਾ ਨਾਮ ਬਿਕਰਮੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਵਾਲੇ ਮਹੀਨਿਆਂ ਤੇ ਕਿਉਂ ਰੱਖਿਆ ਗਿਆ?ਕੀ ਇਸ ਤਰ੍ਹਾਂ ਕਰਕੇ ਸੰਗਤਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਗੁਮੰਰਾਹ ਨਹੀਂ ਕੀਤਾ ਗਿਆ?

7 ਬਿਕਰਮੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਚੇਤ ਤੋਂ ਸ਼ੁਰੂ ਹੋ ਕੇ ਫੱਗਣ ਤੇ ਖਤਮ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਹੈ।ਇਸ ਵਿੱਚ ਸੂਰਜੀ ਪੋਹ ਮਹੀਨਾ ਅਤੇ ਚੰਦਰਮਾ ਨਾਲ ਸਬੰਧਿਤ ਪੋਹ ਸੁਦੀ ਸੱਤਵੀ ਇੱਕ ਵਾਰ ਜਰੂਰ ਆਉਂਦੀ ਹੈ।ਸੰਗਤਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਇਹ ਆਖ ਕੇ ਕਿਉਂ ਗੁੰਮਰਾਹ ਕੀਤਾ ਗਿਆ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਕਦੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ ਦਾ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਪੁਰਬ ਸਾਲ ਵਿੱਚ ਦੋ ਵਾਰ ਆਉਂਦਾ ਹੈ ਅਤੇ ਕਦੇ ਆਉਂਦਾ ਹੀ ਨਹੀਂ?

8 ਧਰਤੀ ਦੀ ਤੀਸਰੀ ਗਤੀ Axial Precession ਕਾਰਣ ਸਾਰੇ ਟਰੌਪੀਕਲ ਕੈਲੰਡਰਾਂ ਦੀਆਂ ਰੁੱਤਾਂ ਅਤੇ ਮੌਸਮ ਚਲਾਏਮਾਨ ਹਨ ਭਾਵ ਇੱਕ ਦੂਜੇ ਦਾ ਸਾਥ ਛੱਡ ਰਹੇ ਹਨ।ਟਰੌਪੀਕਲ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਵਿੱਚ ਇਹ ਸੰਭਵ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਕਦੇ ਦਸੰਬਰ ਮਹੀਨੇ ਵਿੱਚ ਭਰ ਗਰਮੀ ਦਾ ਮੌਸਮ ਹੋ ਸਕਦਾ ਹੈ।ਨਾਨਕਸ਼ਾਹੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਵੀ ਟਰੌਪੀਕਲ ਹੋਣ ਕਰਕੇ ਇਸ ਦੋਸ਼ ਤੋਂ ਮੁਕਤ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈ।ਜਦੋਂ ਕਿ ਬਿਕਰਮੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਸੀਡਰੀਅਲ ਹੋਣ ਕਰਕੇ ਇਸ ਦੋਸ਼ ਤੋਂ ਮੁਕਤ ਹੈ।ਇਸਦੇ ਮਹੀਨੇ ਚੰਦਰਮਾ ਨਾਲ ਜੁੜੇ ਹੋਏ ਹੋਣ ਕਰਕੇ ਰੁੱਤਾਂ ਅਤੇ ਮਹੀਨੇ ਇੱਕ ਦੂਜੇ ਦਾ ਸਾਥ ਨਹੀਂ ਛੱਡ ਸਕਦੇ।ਚੇਤ ਵਿਸਾਖ ਵਿੱਚ ਹਮੇਸ਼ਾਂ ਹੀ ਬਸੰਤ ਰੁੱਤ ਹੋਏਗੀ।ਟਰੌਪੀਕਲ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਦੇ ਦੋਸ਼ ਸੀਡਰੀਅਲ ਬਿਕਰਮੀ ਕੈਲੰਡਰ ਤੇ ਮੜ੍ਹ ਕੇ ਇੱਕ ਬਹੁਤ ਵੱਡਾ ਝੂਠ ਕਿਉਂ ਬੋਲਿਆ ਗਿਆ?

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About the calendar controversy

The Nanakshahi calendar which was implemented in 2003 is based on the solar chart
It has fixed dates of all Gurpurbs except three
Prior to the Nanakshahi calendar, Sikhs folowed the Bikrami calendar, which is based on the lunar chart - Gurpurbs dates kept changing every year as per this calendar
The Nanakshahi calendar was rejected by Takht Sri Hazur Sahib, Takht Sri Patna Sahib and the Sant Sama
The amended calendar came into being in 2010
As per the amendments, the Sikhs reverted to the Bikrami calendar for observing all Gurparbs
Therefore, the amended version is a mix of the original Nanakshahi calendar and the Bikrami calendar
Pal Singh Purewal, the architect of the original Nanakshahi Calendar, had warned of these issues

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some explanation for bikrami calender for those who dont know

A Bikrami, or Desi year, is named after king Vikramaditya and starts in 57 B.C. The calendar has two elements: lunar and solar. The calendar starts with the lunar month of Chetar which starts during March, or the start of Spring, and consists of 365 days. Many states of India have Chetar as the new year. In places such as Sindh and Kerela, the new year starts in Chetar.

The solar element starts with the solar month of Vaisakh during April. Some states of India begin their calendar with the solar new year. In Punjab and Bengal, the solar element of the calendar starts with Vaisakh and the first day is the Vaisakhi new year in Punjab and the Pohla Boshakh (new year) in Bengal.

Nine of the solar months consist of 30 days, one are of 31 (Visakh) and other two (Jeth, Asadha) are of 32 days. This calendar is in traditional use in Punjab (both in India and Pakistan). Later the use was changed to other calendars including the Islamic calendar, the Nanakshahi calendar and the Gregorian Calendar.

Solar calendar

The table below starts the calendar from the Solar month of Vaisakh.

The names of months are

S.No. Solar Month Name Duration 1. Visakh (Besakh) Mid of April to Mid of May 2. Jeth Mid of May to Mid of June 3. Harh Mid of June to Mid of July 4. Sawan Mid of July to Mid of August 5. Bhadon (Bhadhray) Mid of August to Mid of September 6. Asooj (Assun) Mid of September to Mid of October 7. Kattek (Kattun) Mid of October to Mid of November 8. Maghar Mid of Novemberto Mid of December 9. Poh Mid of December Mid of January 10. Magh Mid of January Mid of February 11. Phaggan Mid of February to Mid of March 12. Chetar Mid of March to Mid of April

A day consists of 8 Peh'r/Pahars, every Peh'r/Pahar equals to 3 hours of the modern clock. These Pahars are named: 1: Sajar vela or Sver vela = Morning/Day-break (6'o clock to 9'o clock). 2: Dhammi vela = Pre- noon time(9'o clock to 12'o clock). 3: Paishee vela = Noon(12'o clock to 3'o clock). 4: Deegar vela = Afternoon(3'o clock to 6'o clock). 5: nimasheen/namashan vela = Sunset + Evening + Early hours of night(6'o clock to 9'o clock). 6: Kuftain vela = Pre-midnight time (9'o clock to 12'o clock). 7: Adh Raat vela = Midnight to 3'o clock (12'o clock to 3'o clock). 8: Sarghee vela = Pre Dawn/Very early morning before the sunrise(3'o clock to 6'o clock). The word vela which may be spelled as vailaa means "time of the day" whereas the word Adh means half. While 'dowpahar/dowpeh'r' denotes noon time; and 'shikardowpehr' when sun is right on the heads.

Lunar calendar

The following is the lunar calendar based on the new month starting on the day after a full moon[4] (as in the Punjabi calendar).[5]

The following table gives the dates of the new months for 2014/2015

S.No. Lunar Month Name Date 1. Chetar 17 March 2014 2. Visakh (Besakh) 16 April 2014 3. Jeth 15 May 2014 4. Harh 14 June 2014 5. Sawan 13 July 2014 6. Bhadon (Bhadhray) 11 August 2014 7. Asooj (Assun) 10 September 2014 8. Kattek (Kattun) 9 October 2014 9. Maghar 7 November 2014 10. Poh 7 December 2014 11. Magh 6 January 2015 12. Phaggan 4 February 2015

A lunar year consists of 12 months. A lunar month has two fortnights. The lunar days are called "tithis". Each month has 30 tithis, which may vary from 20 – 27 hours. During the waxing phases, tithis are called "shukla" or the bright phase — the auspicious fortnight, beginning with the full moon night called "purnima". Tithis for the waning phases are called "krishna" or the dark phase, which is regarded as the inauspicious fortnight.

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